Let's talk about Clark

[DenverOfTheEast]

Thank you! If anyone has more facts or can expand on what I said I would welcome it. I was typing that up quickly.

Laney did some really bad things to some folks that I know and I have a story with him that I will not share but I know it was his incompetence and small time thinking that caused it. They definitely weren't competent enough to orchestrate a move up. I know for a fact that if not for Wilson and Adcock we did not have anyone else with this vision that also had the juice to make it happen. The UNC grads on the board of governors who had the power before them were more than happy to keep Laney in position. I'm just glad it all worked out.

Adcock son wore Wake clothing on the App State sideline during the football game in Boone between App and Wake, Not a fan of Adcock since then. Bradley is a snob secret Tar Heel fan, part time Mountaineer. See him out the door as well.

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

Nobody supports App more than Brad and Carol Wilson. You don’t know wtf you’re talking about. You are the kind of person who believes Clorox injections cure Covid.

You quoted me but I was the one defending Brad. I think you meant to quote DenveroftheEast. There is no question that Brad is a massive supporter and we are truly in dept to Adcock and Wilson for moving Bork and Laney out the door. Anyone who defenders the inept leadership we had just was not around or is tight with Roachel and believe his spin on the facts.

Sure Big Brad is a massive supporter but he rubbed me wrong and so did snooty Bradley Wilson... They are Rick Beasley buddies from when he ran things. AirForce1 aka AppState1 I like you, you and I are friends and you don't even know it. I like the Beas aka Rick Beasley a whole lot, but Bradley and Brad can kick rocks.

other than #TeamClark and let's move on. Also Laney over Cobber, last word on that for now. Good Day.

[WVAPPeer]

Beau and 1 I will address you two since you guys were the first to respond. Our daughter was an App student during the Bork/Laney years, and I remember seeing the "Fire Laney" signs. I didn't really understand the reasoning at that time and I asked a couple of people who didn't know anymore than I. We did see or hear of the dissatisfied with Bork.
When did the the trouble with Laney begin, and what were the main reasons? App was going to the playoffs before and during that time. I get the point that they didn't want to do the hard work associated with moving up but there had to be other reasons weren't there?

[pop5app]

As someone who was involved , that's a pretty good summary , as I recall it anyway .I will say however that I hold no grudges against either one .I came to believe that they simply rose to their levels of incompetence and acted accordingly.

Thank you! If anyone has more facts or can expand on what I said I would welcome it. I was typing that up quickly.

Laney did some really bad things to some folks that I know and I have a story with him that I will not share but I know it was his incompetence and small time thinking that caused it. They definitely weren't competent enough to orchestrate a move up. I know for a fact that if not for Wilson and Adcock we did not have anyone else with this vision that also had the juice to make it happen. The UNC grads on the board of governors who had the power before them were more than happy to keep Laney in position. I'm just glad it all worked out.

Adcock son wore Wake clothing on the App State sideline during the football game in Boone between App and Wake, Not a fan of Adcock since then. Bradley is a snob secret Tar Heel fan, part time Mountaineer. See him out the door as well.

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

I like you AppState1 - I got a feeling you are an old school Christian man with King St principles.

As for this account - there are multiple people that have access, multiple people that have Appy degrees, but as far as you know and everyone else, we are truth tellers and always will be. #FrankfromFoscoe #DarrenfromDeepGap #DoughboyfromDenver

Man, bubba you lost all credibility with me when you dropped “APPY” in your comment.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Beau and 1 I will address you two since you guys were the first to respond. Our daughter was an App student during the Bork/Laney years, and I remember seeing the "Fire Laney" signs. I didn't really understand the reasoning at that time and I asked a couple of people who didn't know anymore than I. We did see or hear of the dissatisfied with Bork.
When did the the trouble with Laney begin, and what were the main reasons? App was going to the playoffs before and during that time. I get the point that they didn't want to do the hard work associated with moving up but there had to be other reasons weren't there?

Just preferential opinions,

"oh we can't advance pass the 2nd round blame the AD".

"oh we should move up to FBS blame the AD(Laney) he's holding us back"

We had, I repeat TWO multi millionaire supporters: Bradley and Brad (blue Cross/ Blue Shield Money) and we think we shoulda moved up FBS (FootballBullSh*T Division for the middle class)... takes more than that to play for Bowl games.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Thank you! If anyone has more facts or can expand on what I said I would welcome it. I was typing that up quickly.

Laney did some really bad things to some folks that I know and I have a story with him that I will not share but I know it was his incompetence and small time thinking that caused it. They definitely weren't competent enough to orchestrate a move up. I know for a fact that if not for Wilson and Adcock we did not have anyone else with this vision that also had the juice to make it happen. The UNC grads on the board of governors who had the power before them were more than happy to keep Laney in position. I'm just glad it all worked out.

Adcock son wore Wake clothing on the App State sideline during the football game in Boone between App and Wake, Not a fan of Adcock since then. Bradley is a snob secret Tar Heel fan, part time Mountaineer. See him out the door as well.

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

I like you AppState1 - I got a feeling you are an old school Christian man with King St principles.

As for this account - there are multiple people that have access, multiple people that have Appy degrees, but as far as you know and everyone else, we are truth tellers and always will be. #FrankfromFoscoe #DarrenfromDeepGap #DoughboyfromDenver

Man, bubba you lost all credibility with me when you dropped “APPY” in your comment.

PoppySeedApp you just signed up in 2020. no one cares about your opinion, I am like the radio host that hangs up on the stupid callers and you're one of those. #Click

[appst89]

I care about his opinion. In fact, I share it in this instance.

[BambooRdApp]

The credibility is lost on two fronts....The use of Appy....and maybe, more importantly, an attempt to use Lemon PoppySeed Muffin in a negative way...Those are some damn good muffins and should not be disparaged on an athletic social media sports site

[AppStFan1]

Adcock son wore Wake clothing on the App State sideline during the football game in Boone between App and Wake, Not a fan of Adcock since then. Bradley is a snob secret Tar Heel fan, part time Mountaineer. See him out the door as well.

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

Nobody supports App more than Brad and Carol Wilson. You don’t know wtf you’re talking about. You are the kind of person who believes Clorox injections cure Covid.

You quoted me but I was the one defending Brad. I think you meant to quote DenveroftheEast. There is no question that Brad is a massive supporter and we are truly in dept to Adcock and Wilson for moving Bork and Laney out the door. Anyone who defenders the inept leadership we had just was not around or is tight with Roachel and believe his spin on the facts.

Sure Big Brad is a massive supporter but he rubbed me wrong and so did snooty Bradley Wilson... They are Rick Beasley buddies from when he ran things. AirForce1 aka AppState1 I like you, you and I are friends and you don't even know it. I like the Beas aka Rick Beasley a whole lot, but Bradley and Brad can kick rocks.

other than #TeamClark and let's move on. Also Laney over Cobber, last word on that for now. Good Day.

Brad has actually done good for App while Laney did nothing but hurt us. Brad might be snooty but he cares for App and helped make the regime change that has ultimately put us where we are.

[AppStFan1]

Beau and 1 I will address you two since you guys were the first to respond. Our daughter was an App student during the Bork/Laney years, and I remember seeing the "Fire Laney" signs. I didn't really understand the reasoning at that time and I asked a couple of people who didn't know anymore than I. We did see or hear of the dissatisfied with Bork.
When did the the trouble with Laney begin, and what were the main reasons? App was going to the playoffs before and during that time. I get the point that they didn't want to do the hard work associated with moving up but there had to be other reasons weren't there?

I remember the signs! There was a lot of anger built up at the time. I am not over 60 so I don't know everything but people who use to post on here like "Roachout" and others could shed a lot of light. There are some on the 247 board who I know would no more. I can tell you some of what I know but I have to be vague on some things for privacy reasons.

Laney did not get along with many people because he was inept at the job and saw App as small time. He wanted to be in the SoCon playing private schools instead of moving up. He was enabled to do anything he wanted by Bork who was an alcoholic. Laney made a lot of enemies with people at the YC and around campus. I know players who could not stand him and said they would not return until he left. He did not give a crap about our players either. I remember when a former player was apparently one vote short of the Jacobs Blocking Trophy and they got suspended for a game for a bull crap reason but Laney never appealed it. He made that player mad and he went on to have a very good pro career. The player felt Laney could have stood up for him but did not.

A lot of boosters could not stand Roachel. He kept to himself and really was smart of him because he could have been exposed and everyone would have known how bad he was. Those who were in tune and active knew but I don't think average fans knew at all. He did not push the program or really promote it.

I know that many felt when Laney finally was pushed out we would grow and the growth was massive and immediate as soon as he left.

[pop5app]

Adcock son wore Wake clothing on the App State sideline during the football game in Boone between App and Wake, Not a fan of Adcock since then. Bradley is a snob secret Tar Heel fan, part time Mountaineer. See him out the door as well.

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

I like you AppState1 - I got a feeling you are an old school Christian man with King St principles.

As for this account - there are multiple people that have access, multiple people that have Appy degrees, but as far as you know and everyone else, we are truth tellers and always will be. #FrankfromFoscoe #DarrenfromDeepGap #DoughboyfromDenver

Man, bubba you lost all credibility with me when you dropped “APPY” in your comment.

PoppySeedApp you just signed up in 2020. no one cares about your opinion, I am like the radio host that hangs up on the stupid callers and you're one of those. #Click

Denver of the least, there might be someone on this board that cares what I have to say. I graduated in 1974, been a big fan since 1968, probably before you were born. No need to get personal by calling some one stupid. Don’t use APPY if you want credibility.

[AppStFan1]

Beau and 1 I will address you two since you guys were the first to respond. Our daughter was an App student during the Bork/Laney years, and I remember seeing the "Fire Laney" signs. I didn't really understand the reasoning at that time and I asked a couple of people who didn't know anymore than I. We did see or hear of the dissatisfied with Bork.
When did the the trouble with Laney begin, and what were the main reasons? App was going to the playoffs before and during that time. I get the point that they didn't want to do the hard work associated with moving up but there had to be other reasons weren't there?

Just preferential opinions,

"oh we can't advance pass the 2nd round blame the AD".

"oh we should move up to FBS blame the AD(Laney) he's holding us back"

We had, I repeat TWO multi millionaire supporters: Bradley and Brad (blue Cross/ Blue Shield Money) and we think we shoulda moved up FBS (FootballBullSh*T Division for the middle class)... takes more than that to play for Bowl games.

We had advanced past the second round before but Laney did not give Moore all that he needed and encouraged us being a small school.

Laney flat out did not want to move up and refused to try and push the program and raise the extra money. You just said we only have two millionaire supporters but it is hard to get supporters when Laney actively tried to keep it down. It was really poetic how the first year without Laney the donations more than doubled, attendance shot up several thousand, alumni who hated Laney came back, and we won the national title. The growth immediately began when Laney left and that is just facts. Had he left say in 1994 I think we probably would have moved up by 2005.

The fact is that Wilson and Adcock saw potential but knew we had to grow. Laney and Bork were holding back the growth and it was obvious that that those two men and those of us who felt we can and should were right when you heard the numbers from Gerald Adams, the calls the athletic department got the week he resigned, etc. It was like life was pumped into the program.

The bottom line is that when D1 split we should have gone with ECU but we had too many people who saw App as a teacher's college still and did not dream big. I'm just thankful that those two men ousted Bork and hired Ken who then ousted Laney and we saw the growth happen.

[AppStFan1]

I care about his opinion. In fact, I share it in this instance.

What is funny is that he is the crazy caller who does not know what was actually going on.

[AppStFan1]

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

I like you AppState1 - I got a feeling you are an old school Christian man with King St principles.

As for this account - there are multiple people that have access, multiple people that have Appy degrees, but as far as you know and everyone else, we are truth tellers and always will be. #FrankfromFoscoe #DarrenfromDeepGap #DoughboyfromDenver

Man, bubba you lost all credibility with me when you dropped “APPY” in your comment.

PoppySeedApp you just signed up in 2020. no one cares about your opinion, I am like the radio host that hangs up on the stupid callers and you're one of those. #Click

Denver of the least, there might be someone on this board that cares what I have to say. I graduated in 1974, been a big fan since 1968, probably before you were born. No need to get personal by calling some one stupid. Don’t use APPY if you want credibility.

Thank you for being around the program so long!

[DenverOfTheEast]

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

I like you AppState1 - I got a feeling you are an old school Christian man with King St principles.

As for this account - there are multiple people that have access, multiple people that have Appy degrees, but as far as you know and everyone else, we are truth tellers and always will be. #FrankfromFoscoe #DarrenfromDeepGap #DoughboyfromDenver

Man, bubba you lost all credibility with me when you dropped “APPY” in your comment.

PoppySeedApp you just signed up in 2020. no one cares about your opinion, I am like the radio host that hangs up on the stupid callers and you're one of those. #Click

Denver of the least, there might be someone on this board that cares what I have to say. I graduated in 1974, been a big fan since 1968, probably before you were born. No need to get personal by calling some one stupid. Don’t use APPY if you want credibility.

yes sir

[DenverOfTheEast]

The credibility is lost on two fronts....The use of Appy....and maybe, more importantly, an attempt to use Lemon PoppySeed Muffin in a negative way...Those are some damn good muffins and should not be disparaged on an athletic social media sports site

Lets be honest, Im laughing my a** off and thinking of Ozarks and the Poppy Seeds show

[appgrad95&97]

Soooooo, #TeamClark is defending Clark because Roachel Laney didn't fire Moore and trashing donors outfits. Ten bucks to the first person who can connect those dots.

[Rekdiver]

Thank you! If anyone has more facts or can expand on what I said I would welcome it. I was typing that up quickly.

Laney did some really bad things to some folks that I know and I have a story with him that I will not share but I know it was his incompetence and small time thinking that caused it. They definitely weren't competent enough to orchestrate a move up. I know for a fact that if not for Wilson and Adcock we did not have anyone else with this vision that also had the juice to make it happen. The UNC grads on the board of governors who had the power before them were more than happy to keep Laney in position. I'm just glad it all worked out.

Adcock son wore Wake clothing on the App State sideline during the football game in Boone between App and Wake, Not a fan of Adcock since then. Bradley is a snob secret Tar Heel fan, part time Mountaineer. See him out the door as well.

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

Nobody supports App more than Brad and Carol Wilson. You don’t know wtf you’re talking about. You are the kind of person who believes Clorox injections cure Covid.

You quoted me but I was the one defending Brad. I think you meant to quote DenveroftheEast. There is no question that Brad is a massive supporter and we are truly in dept to Adcock and Wilson for moving Bork and Laney out the door. Anyone who defenders the inept leadership we had just was not around or is tight with Roachel and believe his spin on the facts.

My bad and my apologies. It was meant for DOTE

[AppStFan1]

Adcock son wore Wake clothing on the App State sideline during the football game in Boone between App and Wake, Not a fan of Adcock since then. Bradley is a snob secret Tar Heel fan, part time Mountaineer. See him out the door as well.

I don't care what his son wore. The fact is that Wilson and Adcock were in power to make the move and they ushered Bork out the door and hired Peacock. They can pull for UNC as well if they want but the fact is they were instrumental in making the changes that got the ball rolling.

You are very critical of people who did the actual work. What exactly have you done besides posting on a message board and coming to games? How much money do you give to App, how long have you been involved as a fan/supporter, and were you actually involved or witnessed any of the inside things with our program? Do you have family and friends who were involved in these meetings or were you a direct witness to any of it yourself? I'm not taking potshots at you but trying to get an idea whether you have any firsthand experience as a witness or had any influence.

Nobody supports App more than Brad and Carol Wilson. You don’t know wtf you’re talking about. You are the kind of person who believes Clorox injections cure Covid.

You quoted me but I was the one defending Brad. I think you meant to quote DenveroftheEast. There is no question that Brad is a massive supporter and we are truly in dept to Adcock and Wilson for moving Bork and Laney out the door. Anyone who defenders the inept leadership we had just was not around or is tight with Roachel and believe his spin on the facts.

My bad and my apologies. It was meant for DOTE

No problem. I just wanted to make sure you knew!

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I just don’t see how Eric Church ties in to all of this. If you could somehow prove that Clark is a Church fan, I’d change my position. But I’m on #TeamClark until then or at least the end of this season. He has my support, I see improvement and feel this is going to be a good season still. I’ll reassess in late December.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Soooooo, #TeamClark is defending Clark because Roachel Laney didn't fire Moore and trashing donors outfits. Ten bucks to the first person who can connect those dots.

I've crushed you "2 Degrees from sea level (95/97)" and you can't even quote message me...weak.

I take offense to trashing donors outfits, I trashed a Wake outfit on an App State donor son.

Even former Yosef club employees had issue with this, but was too chicken poop scared to comfort Bradley Wilson holier than thou Blue Cross Blue Shield President about it...therefore long live Laney and his no booster runs the school mindset. Give an inch those elitist take a mile, bunch of Trumps on the sidelines.
little old Boone sold their soul to the big government.