Roster/Staff Updates

[appfanjj]

Personal opinion in terms of priority -
OL
DL
WR
CB
LB
QB

FCS and Freshman offer the most bang for the buck.

I don't think we should be paying any unproven freshman at all. Use the resources on proven college players. I would put WR below LB on that list and add RB as well since we lose 7.

Hopefully we see a healthy and ready to play Roberts back next year.

[WASU 93]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

[AppStFan1]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

I don't take what he said as not being loyal to the players but a reaction to the reality we are dealing with in the portal now. We are more likely going to find someone under valued in the portal that can do what Barnes does for a lot less than what Barnes is going to be offered in the portal. It is just how it is.

[Saint3333]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

If we pay him the same next year as this year or even 10% more are we being loyal or disloyal?

[WASU 93]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

If we pay him the same next year as this year or even 10% more are we being loyal or disloyal?

Is he getting paid this year? I think there is an assumption that everyone is getting paid and every decision is about $$$. Maybe he's looking to get paid and/or maybe he's just happy to be in Boone and wants to finish his career in Boone.

And, is it really easier to find another Barnes? If we keep and develop one of our existing QB's, do we want them to have a familiar experienced receiver.

This isn't a video game, where you just plug in the next part or piece.

[Stonewall]

Not everyone is getting paid. Most of the transfers that have had an impact are. Freshmen at our level generally do not. Basketball is different. Freshmen do get paid at our level. We lost a freshman recruit that we wanted badly to an instate peer who will pay him a real wage.

[Saint3333]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

If we pay him the same next year as this year or even 10% more are we being loyal or disloyal?

Is he getting paid this year? I think there is an assumption that everyone is getting paid and every decision is about $$$. Maybe he's looking to get paid and/or maybe he's just happy to be in Boone and wants to finish his career in Boone.

And, is it really easier to find another Barnes? If we keep and develop one of our existing QB's, do we want them to have a familiar experienced receiver.

This isn't a video game, where you just plug in the next part or piece.

That's not my question, I'd like to discuss how is App loyal or disloyal to players? Let's break this down a little.

Assume we are paying player "X" $25k this year, if we pay that player $25-$30k next year are we being loyal or not loyal?

[WASU 93]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

If we pay him the same next year as this year or even 10% more are we being loyal or disloyal?

Is he getting paid this year? I think there is an assumption that everyone is getting paid and every decision is about $$$. Maybe he's looking to get paid and/or maybe he's just happy to be in Boone and wants to finish his career in Boone.

And, is it really easier to find another Barnes? If we keep and develop one of our existing QB's, do we want them to have a familiar experienced receiver.

This isn't a video game, where you just plug in the next part or piece.

That's not my question, I'd like to discuss how is App loyal or disloyal to players? Let's break this down a little.

Assume we are paying player "X" $25k this year, if we pay that player $25-$30k next year are we being loyal or not loyal?

I think it would be a lot more granular. Did that player step up? Did we ask them to play out of position for the betterment of the team, lead in the weight room, etc.
Maybe they were injured for two years, but we kept a place for them on the team and found a little NIL money.

I don’t think loyalty is just paying them more each year.

[Saint3333]

I don't think you'll answer this question with clarity, but one more try. Barnes is receiving NIL money, if he receives the same amount next after arguably filling his role well is the program being loyal?

[ASUFan4863]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

I don't take what he said as not being loyal to the players but a reaction to the reality we are dealing with in the portal now. We are more likely going to find someone under valued in the portal that can do what Barnes does for a lot less than what Barnes is going to be offered in the portal. It is just how it is.

Yeah it was not anything against the player. It’s just the reality of the situation as you mention. Barnes is going to make a lot of money that we can’t afford to pay with the other holes on the roster. He may even just go to the NFL.

[ASUFan4863]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

And people question player's loyalty to schools......

If we pay him the same next year as this year or even 10% more are we being loyal or disloyal?

Is he getting paid this year? I think there is an assumption that everyone is getting paid and every decision is about $$$. Maybe he's looking to get paid and/or maybe he's just happy to be in Boone and wants to finish his career in Boone.

And, is it really easier to find another Barnes? If we keep and develop one of our existing QB's, do we want them to have a familiar experienced receiver.

This isn't a video game, where you just plug in the next part or piece.

I said it was easier to find another Barnes than to find the money needed. His market value will be almost our entire NIL budget. I’m sure we will make an offer and use the relationships built as a factor for retention, but it’s worth being realistic as well. We just received a commitment from a JUCO Wr today. Hence, why I believe it’s easier to find another than to pay him which is a testament to the recruiting ability of the staff.

[ASUFan4863]

Personal opinion in terms of priority -
OL
DL
WR
CB
LB
QB

FCS and Freshman offer the most bang for the buck.

I don't think we should be paying any unproven freshman at all. Use the resources on proven college players. I would put WR below LB on that list and add RB as well since we lose 7.

LB priority will also be determined by Phares’ status. He’s already received some 6 figure interest but he also likes how the defensive staff is developing him.

[ASUTodd]

It's a business now. The loyalty lies in the players now. The school can only do so much. If players want to act like they are in the NFL, then it just is what it is. They are more than welcome to chase the money, heck I don't fault them. Most won't be in the NFL so this is their chance to bank on their talent. Again, the school can only do so much.

[Apptrain]

Summed up perfectly. Oh how I miss college football.

[311neers]

Personal opinion in terms of priority -
OL
DL
WR
CB
LB
QB

FCS and Freshman offer the most bang for the buck.

I don't think we should be paying any unproven freshman at all. Use the resources on proven college players. I would put WR below LB on that list and add RB as well since we lose 7.

LB priority will also be determined by Phares’ status. He’s already received some 6 figure interest but he also likes how the defensive staff is developing him.

6 figures!
Go find some LB's. That's ridiculous. Need new LB's with speed. (We've had the same ones for 3 years now)

[bcoach]

When we are talking about paying players, I don’t see loyalty being involved. You are paid to do a job. Your worth is in how you perform, what your employer can afford, and what you will accept. This is a business, and loyalty left the business world long ago. Just my 2 cents.

[Appy137]

What is the benefit of hiring this new coach? Is he going to be calling plays in the passing game?