No excuses App Nation!

[AppOrange]

Not sure why this game wasn't sold out weeks ago, but I guess that's the way it is. Let's not spend too much time try to shame someone into going, instead, let's talk it up. The atmosphere will be amazing, and even though my normal crew can't make it, I'm coming alone from Raleigh because there is no way I would miss the biggest RS game in Boone in a 5-10 years. The latest ESPN FBI is out and we currently reside in between Arizona and Temple in the 47th spot. Other notable teams:

The stink 63
S. Carolina 58
Texas 49
Duke 44
NCSU 36
Wake 90

Our SOS is 121 out of 128 teams, we need a quality win to help

[moonshine]

I apologize in advance for the long post and veering a bit off course of the thread. I'm all for protesting and the people who feel strongly about this have a right but their reasoning seems off to me. I imagine a large percentage of our fan base would rather play on Saturday and not have a game on Thursday night.

A few questions:

"The irresponsible spending on athletics in conjunction with consistent budget cuts from the North Carolina state’s legislature is unacceptable. The decision to move up an athletic division, from the Southern Conference to the Sun Belt, is not only fiscally irresponsible but is inconsistent with the universities’ mission, vision, and values."

How is moving up to the Sun Belt fiscally irresponsible? Have athletic fees been raised since App made the jump? Wasn't the decision to move up made prior to Dr. Everts arriving on campus?

"Student fees generate more revenue for athletics operating expenses than any other revenue source. Game-day expenses are a burden placed on the backs of students, faculty, and staff. Students pay for athletics through our increasing student fees. Student-athletes pay for athletics, providing time and energy to university athletics at the expense of their education. Faculty and staff pay for athletics by receiving inadequate compensation for the work and time they contribute to the university."

Weren't these fees voted on in the past by former students to be raised who also paid them? Faculty and staff pay through inadequate compensation??? Did those folks not choose their profession? Do they not get off 3-4 months each year? I bet a lot of those folks on campus make more than some of the alum who will be in attendance plus a much better retirement.

Is it not contradictory to stand for education and then tell faculty and students to walk out?

After scrolling through several pages of the change.org page, it looks like a lot of those signing are a couple of professors (History & Astronomy), psychology, sociology, social work, sustainable development and education majors.

The ones that confused me were athletic training since athletic trainers don't really have a job without sport and the hospitality and management major since the money each home game brings in for the hospitality sector in Boone helps the local economy and individual business owners.

[Appftw]

ARJ, Dude, you're gonna pull something stretching that hard. Other universities experienced similar increases in applications around 2007 and they didn't have the greatest upset of all time helping them. The football program did more for my education than any professors could "ever dream of"?? I was somewhat with you up til that point, but good grief. You've rejected one fictional narrative and inserted your own.


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[Yosef10]

ARJ, Dude, you're gonna pull something stretching that hard. Other universities experienced similar increases in applications around 2007 and they didn't have the greatest upset of all time helping them. The football program did more for my education than any professors could "ever dream of"?? I was somewhat with you up til that point, but good grief. You've rejected one fictional narrative and inserted your own.


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No, he's pretty much spot on. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not the win against Michigan and 3 FCS titles did more for the University than your professors could "ever dream of". Academic profile of the university has changed drastically even since 2010 and that is due to the front porch of our university, which is the Athletics department and more specifically in Apps case, the football team. It's not really an argument

[bcoach]

As of right now I can't make it but still working on it. BUT our normal crew of 5 will turn into 11. Sure hope I can make that 12!!!

Well if they didn't give my ticket away its 12!!!

[APPARJ]

ARJ, Dude, you're gonna pull something stretching that hard. Other universities experienced similar increases in applications around 2007 and they didn't have the greatest upset of all time helping them. The football program did more for my education than any professors could "ever dream of"?? I was somewhat with you up til that point, but good grief. You've rejected one fictional narrative and inserted your own.


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I'm trying to keep this all light hearted here.

From a macro-level, I am absolutely right. Only the football program could've elevated App State to new heights across the board from a significant increase in the number and quality of student applicants (which not every school experienced, by the way, and certainly not even close to the extent App State did) to infrastructure improvements.

From micro-level, obviously the professors are the ones that do the teaching. That really isn't going to change. Can't believe I had to clarify that.

I'm done talking about this unless you want to exchange tales of the many times over the past decade we've taken the Eagles behind the woodshed.

GO APPS!

[Gonzo]

Stoooop itttttt

[APPARJ]

Stoooop itttttt

I'm done. I'm done.

Eagle bashing and game prep from here on out.

[Appftw]

You're keeping it lighthearted by espousing your political beliefs in multiple paragraphs... riiiightt. I'm on the same side as you guys in the athletics vs. academics debate but you've lost all objectivity. I hope you realize that WCU has become harder to get into than App recently and also has a higher incoming freshman GPA (by .1, but still). Coach Spier must be doin' WORK down there by your logic.

[Yosef10]

You're keeping it lighthearted by espousing your political beliefs in multiple paragraphs... riiiightt. I'm on the same side as you guys in the athletics vs. academics debate but you've lost all objectivity. I hope you realize that WCU has become harder to get into than App recently and also has a higher incoming freshman GPA (by .1, but still). Coach Spier must be doin' WORK down there by your logic.

They've always been tougher to get into (about 40% acceptance rate annually) considering they're about half the size of App. Why are they about half the size of app? Why were App and WCU pretty comparable in size until about 2010?? Oh. That little football thing.

Now I'm done. Back to the Stink

[BurlingtonApp]

You're keeping it lighthearted by espousing your political beliefs in multiple paragraphs... riiiightt. I'm on the same side as you guys in the athletics vs. academics debate but you've lost all objectivity. I hope you realize that WCU has become harder to get into than App recently and also has a higher incoming freshman GPA (by .1, but still). Coach Spier must be doin' WORK down there by your logic.

That is just nowhere close to being true. Having a lower acceptance rate doesn't mean it's harder to get into when considering how much lower SAT scores are than ours (which is at least 120 points)

[boonetown1]

So, how are we going to get ticket sales up more for this game? I say move the student back down to the bottom on the away side. If people will not buy the tickets, give the student better seating.

It pretty frustrating.....however, I get this is a Thursday night game. I hope the SB doesn't screw us again with two Thursday games next year...or even worse a TUESDAY night game.

We still need to sell more blocks to corporations and have them push them out too. I mean the company i work for buys some ACC tickets and sells them. Also, we need to engage the locals more and bring them to the game. On the bright side Troy looks to be selling well.....

[Appftw]

You're keeping it lighthearted by espousing your political beliefs in multiple paragraphs... riiiightt. I'm on the same side as you guys in the athletics vs. academics debate but you've lost all objectivity. I hope you realize that WCU has become harder to get into than App recently and also has a higher incoming freshman GPA (by .1, but still). Coach Spier must be doin' WORK down there by your logic.

They've always been tougher to get into (about 40% acceptance rate annually) considering they're about half the size of App. Why are they about half the size of app? Why were App and WCU pretty comparable in size until about 2010?? Oh. That little football thing.

Now I'm done. Back to the Stink

In 2005 we had almost 12,000 students which is still about double what Western had. Also, according to this, their acceptance rate was 77% in 2007. http://www.eduers.com/University/North_ ... rsity.html

They also experienced a huge uptick in applications right around when we did. No one is coming here exclusively for football. Hate to break that to you, but our various colleges have great reputations and you really shouldn't try to take that away from them for the sake of football. That's all I'm getting at.

Beat Southern. I'll be there.

[appyirish]

Ticket availability as 3:30 p.m. on 10/19/2015

East Side Available seats: 1712

West Side Available Seats: 1,365

Total: 3,077

[boonetown1]

sucks

[YesAppCan]

It really does.

[RollNeers]

As a current student I wouldn't miss this game for the world and I know me and my fellow fraternity members will be there in full force. Roll 'Neers.

[JROCK98]

Does anyone know if historically APP sells a lot of tickets on game day with walk up traffic?

[Gonzo]

We were pleasantly surprised by the large crowd at the Howard game after a week of lackluster ticket sales. I'm confident we'll have similar numbers on Thursday. There might be some aluminum showing in the nose bleeds, but we'll lead the conference this week and the atmosphere will be electric.

O/U on Stink false starts? I'm thinking 3.5. The Rock is going to be rowdy.

[bigCasu]

Does anyone know if historically APP sells a lot of tickets on game day with walk up traffic?

I have always felt the walkup crowd is larger than many give it credit for. For a very long time, you could walk up and get a ticket on gameday. Those people are still out there. They wait to see what the weather is like and make a decision from there.