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Unread post by 1ASU78 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:43 am

"What made him effective," Hudspeth said, "is us not taking our gaps. I think any back in the country can run on a defense that (doesn't) have everybody in their gaps."

What made him effective was HE RAN IT DOWN YOUR RAGING THROAT.

I get it Huds was still in disbelief. Next year Arky & LU will have the Mountaineers circled on the calendar. We're making new friends and rivalries.

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Unread post by diehardapp18 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:15 am

holy bleep.... did anyone realize taylor lamb has 450 yards on the ground this season? will he first team pre season all conference headed into next season?

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Unread post by appgrad » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:52 am

diehardapp18 wrote:holy bleep.... did anyone realize taylor lamb has 450 yards on the ground this season? will he first team pre season all conference headed into next season?
I will say... While I don't think Lamb will probably ever be a 15-20 carry guy... He's effective enough of a runner to make the other team respect him. In this offense, that threat of a mobile QB is so crucial to both opening up WRs through play action as well as our ability to get favorable matchups in the option game.

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Unread post by hapapp » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:10 am

Total Offense--SBC

TOTAL OFFENSE Cl G Rush Pass Plays Total Yds/G
1. Knighten, Fredi-ASU SO 11 622 2578 560 3200 290.9
2. Arbuckle, Nick-GSU JR 11 -14 2927 450 2913 264.8
3. Thomas, Pete-ULM SR 11 19 2874 560 2893 263.0
4. Jones,Tyler-TXST SO 11 474 2403 501 2877 261.5
5. Rogers, Tyler-NMSU SO 11 183 2465 456 2648 240.7
6. Lamb, Taylor-APP FR 11 453 2158 347 2611 237.4
7. Broadway, T.-UL-L SR 11 568 1926 411 2494 226.7
8. Matt Linehan-IDAHO FR 10 -72 2307 419 2235 223.5
9. Bridge, Brandon-USA SR 9 249 1476 322 1725 191.7
10. Silvers, B.-TROY FR 10 186 1564 330 1750 175.0

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Unread post by TheMoody1 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:52 am

Seems like a lot of the fire Satterfield guys truly believe they are responsible for the turn around.

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Unread post by manonabuffalo » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:55 am

TheMoody1 wrote:Seems like a lot of the fire Satterfield guys truly believe they are responsible for the turn around.
No one said that, only that we were all screaming for changes and until some drastic ones were emplemented this team was dead in the water.

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Unread post by appbio91 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:59 am

hapapp wrote:
mtnjax wrote:
hapapp wrote:I wouldn't sell Ark State and UL down the river just yet. At this point, they are ranked 1st and 3rd in SBC recruiting. We come in at 5th at this point. This is all subject to change but I don't think our victory yesterday means that they are "has beens."
they may be ranked that high, but look at how many commitments they have versus us. it's already been said we're only bringing 16-18 this year, so our ranking will be lower. Also, as Moose frequently says, look at how many of those commitments they have now actually sign with them
Of course, the same can apply to us. I know you aren't saying this but let's not assume that they are in some kind of decline or that they can't bet better as well.
I truly hope and believe they are not in decline. I would love to be in a conference where we were in a dog fight every weekend.

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Unread post by APPARJ » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:40 am

App91 wrote:
APPARJ wrote:What a surprise. The posters that absolutely lost their minds and called for a coaching overhaul and Satt and Woody's head on a platter don't like being reminded of their ridiculous comments.

Defending Satt & Co. has nothing to do with being loyal or kind for our good ol' boy coaches. It has everything to do with the fact that some of us understand that (NEWSFLASH) no one on MMB knows the game of football or this roster as much as our coaches. And it takes a lot more than using amateur advice on a fan board to turn a program transitioning into the FBS around.

So all of this talk about "Well, I see that the coaches saw what everyone else saw and turned it around" is really just nonsense because we see a fraction of what they see.

In the end, everyone benefits because now we're really good at football again.
Well, guess we can all go back to sitting by the campfire singing Kum-by-ya, no need to have any more discussions on message boards, no more OPINIONS. RJ has spoken. Good night all.
Newsflash! :roll: :roll:
I get it. So it's either fire Satt and put his house up for sale or sitting around a campfire singing peace songs.

Sorry my comment hit too close to home but I wasn't in a "singing" mood after the Liberty game. I simply had the foresight to not call for Satt's job 1.5 years into his tenure.
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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:59 am

In regards to Taylor Lamb's rushing stats. It will be tough in the next few years to pile up much in the way of rushing yards with the stable of backs he simply has to turn and hand the ball to! Cox and Upshaw are going to be ridicuous next season. By my count the two of them need to net 193 yards between them next Saturday to eclipse a combined 2000 yards for the season. And we can't forget Fergerson who will go over 300 himself no doubt. Not too shabby for a spread offense. All we need now is a 240 lb bruising fullback- just kidding, I think we are good.

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Unread post by appgrad » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:07 am

APPARJ wrote:
App91 wrote:
APPARJ wrote:What a surprise. The posters that absolutely lost their minds and called for a coaching overhaul and Satt and Woody's head on a platter don't like being reminded of their ridiculous comments.

Defending Satt & Co. has nothing to do with being loyal or kind for our good ol' boy coaches. It has everything to do with the fact that some of us understand that (NEWSFLASH) no one on MMB knows the game of football or this roster as much as our coaches. And it takes a lot more than using amateur advice on a fan board to turn a program transitioning into the FBS around.

So all of this talk about "Well, I see that the coaches saw what everyone else saw and turned it around" is really just nonsense because we see a fraction of what they see.

In the end, everyone benefits because now we're really good at football again.
Well, guess we can all go back to sitting by the campfire singing Kum-by-ya, no need to have any more discussions on message boards, no more OPINIONS. RJ has spoken. Good night all.
Newsflash! :roll: :roll:
I get it. So it's either fire Satt and put his house up for sale or sitting around a campfire singing peace songs.

Sorry my comment hit too close to home but I wasn't in a "singing" mood after the Liberty game. I simply had the foresight to not call for Satt's job 1.5 years into his tenure.
I wasn't happy after Liberty, and for anyone to say they were optimistic about the program after that game, they are lying. I went to the Troy game, and felt good about how we put that game away, and was pretty sure we'd beat a very bad Georgia State team. The last 3 games, though, really show a team that has learned how to win. That's the coaches as much as it is the players.

I was always willing to give Satterfield time because we were in transition, and none of us know what challenges he faced due to that alone. Next year, to me, was going to be the ultimate measuring stick. I wasn't even worried about winning a lot of games in 2015, just seeing improvement.

I also made the comment to a friend who snarkily texted "Good thing we got rid of Moore, huh?" that we can't say if the 1.5 season drop-off we suffered could be thanks to decisions Coach Moore made. We'll never know, though - but it does sound like our S&C Program was lacking the last few years. There's no sense blaming any one, especially someone who laid a foundation like the one Coach Moore left behind.. Coaching transitions happen everywhere, and you must coach and win with the hand you're dealt.

Also - need to account for the fact that Coach Satterfield is a first time Head Coach! There is a huge learning curve there - so for someone to imply that we won because he just "stayed the course", or the "players finally started listening" you're almost certainly wrong. New coaches have to adjust, tinker, experiment, and figure out what works for them. He's done that, as have his assistants, and it's paid off.

Ultimately, we should all be very excited about where this program is headed. With as many players as we get back next year - and conversely, how many players UL-La and Ga Southern lose - we should be a fashionable pick for the conference title!

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Unread post by manonabuffalo » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:08 am

APPARJ wrote:
App91 wrote:
APPARJ wrote:What a surprise. The posters that absolutely lost their minds and called for a coaching overhaul and Satt and Woody's head on a platter don't like being reminded of their ridiculous comments.

Defending Satt & Co. has nothing to do with being loyal or kind for our good ol' boy coaches. It has everything to do with the fact that some of us understand that (NEWSFLASH) no one on MMB knows the game of football or this roster as much as our coaches. And it takes a lot more than using amateur advice on a fan board to turn a program transitioning into the FBS around.

So all of this talk about "Well, I see that the coaches saw what everyone else saw and turned it around" is really just nonsense because we see a fraction of what they see.

In the end, everyone benefits because now we're really good at football again.
Well, guess we can all go back to sitting by the campfire singing Kum-by-ya, no need to have any more discussions on message boards, no more OPINIONS. RJ has spoken. Good night all.
Newsflash! :roll: :roll:
I get it. So it's either fire Satt and put his house up for sale or sitting around a campfire singing peace songs.

Sorry my comment hit too close to home but I wasn't in a "singing" mood after the Liberty game. I simply had the foresight to not call for Satt's job 1.5 years into his tenure.
No you just would rather attack kids for not returning kicks how you like, then back off the comment and say you were there for him the whole time.

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Unread post by appgrad » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:12 am

bigdaddyg wrote:In regards to Taylor Lamb's rushing stats. It will be tough in the next few years to pile up much in the way of rushing yards with the stable of backs he simply has to turn and hand the ball to! Cox and Upshaw are going to be ridicuous next season. By my count the two of them need to net 193 yards between them next Saturday to eclipse a combined 2000 yards for the season. And we can't forget Fergerson who will go over 300 himself no doubt. Not too shabby for a spread offense. All we need now is a 240 lb bruising fullback- just kidding, I think we are good.
Yeah - I think Lamb is a great "keep 'em honest" runner in the spread option. He can pick up yards if the read is right, and can also improvise on a broken play. I'd rather have that than a Spread QB that is a better runner than thrower...which is what we seemed to be dealing with post-Armanti.

As for the bruiser...anyone seen Eric Davidson up close? They list him as 200lbs...but he's built like a fire hydrant! They might want to check that scale.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:46 am

manonabuffalo wrote:
TheMoody1 wrote:Seems like a lot of the fire Satterfield guys truly believe they are responsible for the turn around.
No one said that, only that we were all screaming for changes and until some drastic ones were emplemented this team was dead in the water.
There were NO DRASTIC CHANGES made - this entire year has been a process and really if you don't grasp that then isn't much more anyone can say ---
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Unread post by APPARJ » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:51 am

manonabuffalo wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
App91 wrote:
APPARJ wrote:What a surprise. The posters that absolutely lost their minds and called for a coaching overhaul and Satt and Woody's head on a platter don't like being reminded of their ridiculous comments.

Defending Satt & Co. has nothing to do with being loyal or kind for our good ol' boy coaches. It has everything to do with the fact that some of us understand that (NEWSFLASH) no one on MMB knows the game of football or this roster as much as our coaches. And it takes a lot more than using amateur advice on a fan board to turn a program transitioning into the FBS around.

So all of this talk about "Well, I see that the coaches saw what everyone else saw and turned it around" is really just nonsense because we see a fraction of what they see.

In the end, everyone benefits because now we're really good at football again.
Well, guess we can all go back to sitting by the campfire singing Kum-by-ya, no need to have any more discussions on message boards, no more OPINIONS. RJ has spoken. Good night all.
Newsflash! :roll: :roll:
I get it. So it's either fire Satt and put his house up for sale or sitting around a campfire singing peace songs.

Sorry my comment hit too close to home but I wasn't in a "singing" mood after the Liberty game. I simply had the foresight to not call for Satt's job 1.5 years into his tenure.
No you just would rather attack kids for not returning kicks how you like, then back off the comment and say you were there for him the whole time.
Please excuse me if I don't take your criticism to heart. After all, you're the one who has been so wrong you even had to hedge your bets and devote an entire thread to your "crow" once the tides began to turn.

As far as "attacking" kids. That's hilarious.
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Unread post by APPARJ » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:52 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
manonabuffalo wrote:
TheMoody1 wrote:Seems like a lot of the fire Satterfield guys truly believe they are responsible for the turn around.
No one said that, only that we were all screaming for changes and until some drastic ones were emplemented this team was dead in the water.
There were NO DRASTIC CHANGES made - this entire year has been a process and really if you don't grasp that then isn't much more anyone can say ---
WVApp... Don't ruin the narrative. The expert fans on MMB are the reason App turned it around.
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Unread post by WER4ASU » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:00 am

Wonder what changes we made on defense that caused us to become SO much better?

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Unread post by WER4ASU » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:01 am

Wonder what changes we made on defense that caused us to become SO much better?

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:02 am

There's a big difference between saying the team needs to make some strategic changes and saying the coach needs to be fired.

I do recall some people saying we should be playing more freshmen, and that has happened. Although the large majority are still redshirting. At the same time, many of the veterans have simply started playing better.

I don't remember too many people saying "WTH is Satt thinking, obviously we need to start using a power running game with a personnel group that includes both a TE and an H-back more often." Maybe someone did, but I don't think that was one of the more frequent critiques. To my memory, there were more people complaining about Satt not yelling more on the sideline than calling for that change.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:33 am

App91 wrote: If you believe this, then you have not been watching. It is without debate that the schemes have been different between these two seasons. Coaching to win rather than not to lose. Getting pressure on the ball, good rytthem on O, should we go on? Yes, the coaches looked inward, made changes and we got better, alot better.
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No one would argue that the schemes have been different. But this is the chicken versus egg debate. Did the players get better because the playbook opened up, or did the playbook open up because the players got better. I have been watching the games and I am of the opinion that the playbook opened because the players finally understood what they were supposed to do for each play. This in turn made it easier to give the coaches more play calling ability. Think about this. During the first part of the season how any times did we get burned because we blitzed and players were out of position? Have we had that happen in the back part of the season? I have not seen it and it is all due to players better understanding of where they are supposed to be.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:37 am

WER4ASU wrote:Wonder what changes we made on defense that caused us to become SO much better?
The light bulb went off and players understood where they were supposed to be on the field. The 3-4 is all about gap responsibility and when you leave your gap then you expose areas. The players are staying in their gaps now. So it is a product of coaching and player maturation.

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