Start Lamb

[APPARJ]

Specifically, the pass blocking was awful, yes they were going up against a big ten school, but I saw guys being manhandled, we had a total of 4 yds in the second quater with 6 minutes to go. I never expected for them to hold their own against Michigan's line, but there were plenty of times where there was almost no resistance on there way to our qb.

Stop posting your opinion on the small portion of the game you watched and watch the whole game, dude. The OL did a good job today.

[APPARJ]

I watched every play today and my opinion is that Kam is simply not the best QB on the team. Sure, Lamb didn't play against the 1's like Kam but that's not his fault. He did a great job when it was his turn.

Last year our season was a nightmare partly because we held onto JJ too long when he was clearly hurting the team on the field (and I don't think it was all a physical problem) before switching to Kam. Granted, I think our two biggest holes today were at WR and QB. It's not like our WRs were wide open and begging for the ball in the endzone so a lot of work needs to be done there. Start Kam vs. Campbell but give Taylor a legitimate shot.

This isn't a throwaway season anymore. Time to see who gives us the best shot at winning.

[The Annoying Peasant]

Taylor looked poised, focused and accurate. It was a very impressive showing for his first ever collegiate PT, especially considering the environment. He was also under no pressure to win the game. That was decided long before he stepped on the field. He didn't see the first team guys and he didn't get blitzed like Kam. Satterfield was visibly unhappy with Kam at times, but it is irrational to think he gets benched after this game. Scott will know very little about his team and QB until the USM game and probably not until after the Georgia Southern game.

[Rick0714]

The strengths and weaknesses of Kam have been known for a long time. Good athlete, very accurate from 15 yards and in, lacks arm strength, not the best decision maker, more mechanical than instinctual, moves well in the pocket, etc. With that said I think he is locking-in and not moving down his receivers enough and isn't taking what's available. Taylor went through his progressions extremely well. As well as anyone in an ASU jersey has in a long, long time. He has all the tools except experience. He will be our starter one day, aPPsolutely no denying it. However its not fair nor smart to bench Kam based on today. There was a reason JLJ was started on 1.5 legs last year over Kam and there are reasons Kam was started over Lamb. My prediction is that Lamb will get a lot of field time in the next couple of games and when Kam struggles again, he'll be in, and be the starter before the end of the season. Then again, maybe Kam doesn't struggle. I still think we'll be trying to get Lamb snaps. I see it being handled a little similar to Trey/AE in '06, but maybe the trigger isn't as quick. Just my two cents worth.

[appbio91]

Like it or not Taylor will be our QB by season end. Kam lived on Cox last year. You get exposed when the 5 yard passes don't go for 40 yard gains.

[APPARJ]

I don't buy the argument that we "don't know" the kind of team we have until we get past Michigan/Campbell. We know:

- Cox and Upshaw are an extremely talented duo
- Our OL has improved from last year (and should continue to do so without injuries)
- DBs have a habit of throwing themselves at the ball carrier's feet instead of tackling
- Finally, and relatively speaking, Lamb looked like a better QB than Kam (some might disagree but I know many here are with me)

There are many other things we know as well, but I think those are more or less obvious.

I'm glad it's not up to MMB to decide who's what. Our coaches know what we have and will adjust the personnel accordingly.

[hapapp]

I don't buy the argument that we "don't know" the kind of team we have until we get past Michigan/Campbell. We know:

- Cox and Upshaw are an extremely talented duo
- Our OL has improved from last year (and should continue to do so without injuries)
- DBs have a habit of throwing themselves at the ball carrier's feet instead of tackling
- Finally, and relatively speaking, Lamb looked like a better QB than Kam (some might disagree but I know many here are with me)

There are many other things we know as well, but I think those are more or less obvious.

I'm glad it's not up to MMB to decide who's what. Our coaches know what we have and will adjust the personnel accordingly.

We are judging Taylor's performance on one drive. It was well done and he did look poised. He showed the promise that we all hoped we would see. However, I don't think you make a definitive judgement based on one drive.

[APPARJ]

I don't buy the argument that we "don't know" the kind of team we have until we get past Michigan/Campbell. We know:

- Cox and Upshaw are an extremely talented duo
- Our OL has improved from last year (and should continue to do so without injuries)
- DBs have a habit of throwing themselves at the ball carrier's feet instead of tackling
- Finally, and relatively speaking, Lamb looked like a better QB than Kam (some might disagree but I know many here are with me)

There are many other things we know as well, but I think those are more or less obvious.

I'm glad it's not up to MMB to decide who's what. Our coaches know what we have and will adjust the personnel accordingly.

We are judging Taylor's performance on one drive. It was well done and he did look poised. He showed the promise that we all hoped we would see. However, I don't think you make a definitive judgement based on one drive.

Which is why I said "relatively speaking" and not otherwise. Personally, I do think Lamb is a better QB but I can't make that argument off of one drive alone as you stated. But, in time, I believe that will prove to be the case.

[moehler]

When I see a 300 lb man literally being thrown 3 yds backwards into the qb, I don't need to watch the whole freckling game. Been watching football 45 yrs., I know the difference between a good line and a bad one, and there are players on our line who just don't have the talent to play At this level. I do think they will be better than last year, and they showed today they can run block, but we have a long way to go before we can say we have a solid FBS line.

[APPARJ]

When I see a 300 lb man literally being thrown 3 yds backwards into the qb, I don't need to watch the whole freckling game. Been watching football 45 yrs., I know the difference between a good line and a bad one, and there are players on our line who just don't have the talent to play At this level. I do think they will be better than last year, and they showed today they can run block, but we have a long way to go before we can say we have a solid FBS line.

Cool. Well, you're the only one that thinks our line is terrible. Hope you enjoyed the 2nd quarter.

[moehler]

Na, I really didn't enjoy it, kinda made me sad

[appbio91]

When I see a 300 lb man literally being thrown 3 yds backwards into the qb, I don't need to watch the whole freckling game. Been watching football 45 yrs., I know the difference between a good line and a bad one, and there are players on our line who just don't have the talent to play At this level. I do think they will be better than last year, and they showed today they can run block, but we have a long way to go before we can say we have a solid FBS line.

I agree, this is a thread about QB but our RB's and QB were knocked down by O line folks as many times as they were tackled by UM dicks today. Just to repeat my opinion one more time though, Cox made Kam look like a super star last year and if he is the man this year I hope Cox has another great year.

[AUHornet]

Gonzo - it's a fair question based on the numbers. When you have 4 first downs in a half of football you need to step back and reevaluate.

Saw it all in person and let me say first that UM has talent everywhere - I was impressed and think they can make a solid run this year.

To stay on topic, my view was that Kam had trouble pulling the trigger at times but UM just dared us to throw with tight man and constant pressure. The OLine was getting tons of different looks and that caused some protection breakdowns IMHO. Kam was pressured constantly and their DB's weren't big but were physical with our WR's. You can't blame Kam completely.

With that said, Taylor looked good against pretty much their two's with not nearly as much pressure/blitzing. His throws were crisp and decisive though.

I think it's too early to make a change - Fall Camp should have cleared up any question marks between the two. Campbell won't tell us anything either so I think you need to stick with your #1 until he shows he can't do it. Personally I think Kam can and will and I'm pulling for him - he's a natural leader and workhorse but it's nice to know Taylor appears to ready to go if he's needed.

[EastHallApp]

I don't know enough to have a strong opinion, but I'll say this: after going through spring and fall camp and determining Bryant was the starter - and apparently by a fairly comfortable margin - it's hard to imagine the staff changing their minds based on one drive in the fourth quarter of a 49-7 game.

Don't think there's any way Lamb starts vs. Campbell, but maybe he gets some earlier reps in that one, before the game (hopefully) gets out of hand.

[AppFan11]

Lots to say, some of what has been mentioned. The DBs for Mich. were/are way better than the ones AE had to contend with and they knew how to cover. Secondly, Mich.'s 1 D blitzed like virtually every offensive play in first half (often two lb's) .They sent more guys than we had blockers. I agree our OL did a credible job. WAY better than last year. NEWS ALERT.... We are not a Big10 level team... and that's ok. The QB situation was resolved in fall camp. This discussion would not be taking place if Lamb had played in the first half. His slower foot-speed would have been painfully evident. He does have some good skills... they just need to be more refined. No QB controversy here. But overall, the first time we played we had all the advantages... speed at skill positions ... a very mobile qb...and Mich. had no clue how to defend the spread... We had none of those time around and it showed.

[AppRy]

I think Lamb showed some great attributes today but his PT versus Kams is not an apples to apples comparison. I think that Kam didn't play well but you have to remember that our WRs are very young and weren't getting off the ball. It's a lot easier to make quick decisions and quick reads when you are not getting blitzed, your guys are open, and there's no pressure literal or figuratively to make something happen. The thing I saw from Kam is he is hesitant to make a play that might turn over the ball. A TO can be a killer in a game like today but sometimes you have to take those risks.

And I liked what I saw from the OLine today. Especially running the ball.

[GoApps70]

That was one reason we lost so many football games last year,
waiting to change QBs even though it was obvious. We need the
coaching staff to play the best QB and not try to keep doing the
same old crap they did last year. No doubt play Taylor Lamb. He
is by far the better QB.

[AppSt94]

That was one reason we lost so many football games last year,
waiting to change QBs even though it was obvious. We need the
coaching staff to play the best QB and not try to keep doing the
same old crap they did last year. No doubt play Taylor Lamb. He
is by far the better QB.

So you are saying that the coaches are NOT playing the best QB? And how do you know this to be true? What qualifies you to make that determination?

[EastHallApp]

That was one reason we lost so many football games last year,
waiting to change QBs even though it was obvious. We need the
coaching staff to play the best QB and not try to keep doing the
same old crap they did last year. No doubt play Taylor Lamb. He
is by far the better QB.

So you are saying that the coaches are NOT playing the best QB? And how do you know this to be true? What qualifies you to make that determination?

One drive against the backups in the fourth quarter of a 49-7 game, of course.

[AppSt94]

Kam continues to start but I wouldn't be surprised if Lamb starts by mid-season.

I say stay with Kam because he played against Michigan's 1's and the Oline couldn't give him time today.

The good news is we have a very capable backup should we need him.

To say you wouldn't be surprised to see Lamb starting by mid year is an accurate statement. I liked his poise and demeanor on the field. I think that Lamb's play can force a decision.