Potential Capel replacements

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by Gonzo » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:44 pm

I remember Lutz being mentioned before the Capel hire. Makes perfect sense. The guy has experience in the mid majors and recruiting in our area. I wonder if we can afford him? I would certainly hope Cobb is willing to fork over enough dough after his gamble with Capel turned into the biggest failure imaginable.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:47 pm

Gonzo wrote:How about Buzz Peterson? :D
Now that's an original idea. :P I like it! ;)
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:48 pm

Gonzo wrote:How about Buzz Peterson? :D
I am guessing you are also going to suggest we hire Mike Working as an assistant as well in football? :D
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:06 pm

hapapp wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:Sorry if this is premature. I actually don't mean to bash Capel. If he somehow turns it around this year and keeps his job, fantastic. Just seems hard to picture at this point. Unless a repeat of last year is considered sufficient (improvement, but still not good).
I guess one should never say never, but I find it hard to believe he will be renewed at season's end. And while it may be a fun exercise, it does seem a bit ghoulish to me. However, I obviously am just one voice, if others want to speculate, have at it. In truth, I would probably read what others think/hope. ;)

For once we agree, Jerry. I just don't think we should be discussing replacements for an ASU employee while he still has the job.
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:22 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Gonzo wrote:How about Buzz Peterson? :D
I am guessing you are also going to suggest we hire Mike Working as an assistant as well in football? :D
Now, why do you want to torment ASUTrnr81 like that? I'm sure he'd prefer you just use a voodoo doll, or something less painful. :lol:
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by wataugan03 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:35 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Gonzo wrote:How about Buzz Peterson? :D
I am guessing you are also going to suggest we hire Mike Working as an assistant as well in football? :D
According to my inside source we have a big donor who is prepared to woo him away from wherever he is with an offer he can't refuse . . . but first we'll have to launch a national search committee to find him :lol:

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by ASU-FTW » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:50 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
hapapp wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:Sorry if this is premature. I actually don't mean to bash Capel. If he somehow turns it around this year and keeps his job, fantastic. Just seems hard to picture at this point. Unless a repeat of last year is considered sufficient (improvement, but still not good).
I guess one should never say never, but I find it hard to believe he will be renewed at season's end. And while it may be a fun exercise, it does seem a bit ghoulish to me. However, I obviously am just one voice, if others want to speculate, have at it. In truth, I would probably read what others think/hope. ;)

For once we agree, Jerry. I just don't think we should be discussing replacements for an ASU employee while he still has the job.
This is a fan forum and we are firmly within our rights to discuss replacements. Capel has proven to be incompetent at his job and needs to be replaced. If he or his family happens to read this and gets offended, too bad because it's the truth.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppAttack » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:37 pm

Tom Apke?

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by asu66 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:41 pm

hapapp wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:Sorry if this is premature. I actually don't mean to bash Capel. If he somehow turns it around this year and keeps his job, fantastic. Just seems hard to picture at this point. Unless a repeat of last year is considered sufficient (improvement, but still not good).
I guess one should never say never, but I find it hard to believe he will be renewed at season's end. And while it may be a fun exercise, it does seem a bit ghoulish to me. However, I obviously am just one voice, if others want to speculate, have at it. In truth, I would probably read what others think/hope. ;)

As angry and frustrated as I am and have been about ASU's basketball situation (and I go all the way back to Bob Light, Jerry Steele and Press Maravich), I agree with hapapp that it isn't Kosher to be talking about Capel's burial--even if he does sort of have both feet on a banana peel.

At the same time, I'm like Jerry in that I'd read any and all speculation posted out of sheer curiosity. And just to show my human side, I'm already feeling a need to comment on at least one of the subjects of speculation. While I have nothing against Bobby Lutz personally, I think he'd be a very, very dark horse in a race for an empty men's basketball office at HCC.

What many of our younger men, women, boys and girls are probably not aware of is that Lutz has been passed over for the head basketball coaching position at ASU on at least two and perhaps three occasions in the last 25 years. I'm not certain how enthusiastic he'd be in answering his phone if his caller ID was showing "ASU Athletics."

He most definitely was a finalist for the position twice--and the nods went in other directions. There was a time that he harbored a lot of hurt feelings and animosity toward our Alma Mater. Whether a salary offer of $275,000 plus perks from Cobb would change his outlook is an unknown unless there have already been some feelers placed. Cobb knows he'll have to get out the big checkbook this time around. He knows what it would have taken to retain Peterson; and he's already paying Darcie Vincent well over $200,000 for coaching the ASU women. There will be no more bargain basement signings by Cobb as long as he's at ASU. He's got to hit a homerun with his next basketball hire; and he knows it.
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:43 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Gonzo wrote:How about Buzz Peterson? :D
I am guessing you are also going to suggest we hire Mike Working as an assistant as well in football? :D
Oh H$!! no! It will not make any difference to anyone, but I will quit ASU, The Liberry Tailgates, the YOSEF club, the whole dang thing if Mike Working is ever rehired in any capacity by ASU!
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:48 pm

Gonzo wrote:How about Buzz Peterson? :D
Never heard of him.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Re Lutz, would we really pursue a member of a coaching staff that we just accused of tampering?

Also, for those offended at discussing potential replacements - Capel is not under contract beyond this season, correct? So technically, we DO have an opening. Of course, anyone who wants to argue that the next coach should be Jason Capel is welcome to do so.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by appdaze » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:59 pm

http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=597&path=mbball


I'd like to see this guy get an offer. Bryan Lentz.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:10 pm

asu66 wrote:
hapapp wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:Sorry if this is premature. I actually don't mean to bash Capel. If he somehow turns it around this year and keeps his job, fantastic. Just seems hard to picture at this point. Unless a repeat of last year is considered sufficient (improvement, but still not good).
I guess one should never say never, but I find it hard to believe he will be renewed at season's end. And while it may be a fun exercise, it does seem a bit ghoulish to me. However, I obviously am just one voice, if others want to speculate, have at it. In truth, I would probably read what others think/hope. ;)

As angry and frustrated as I am and have been about ASU's basketball situation (and I go all the way back to Bob Light, Jerry Steele and Press Maravich), I agree with hapapp that it isn't Kosher to be talking about Capel's burial--even if he does sort of have both feet on a banana peel.

At the same time, I'm like Jerry in that I'd read any and all speculation posted out of sheer curiosity. And just to show my human side, I'm already feeling a need to comment on at least one of the subjects of speculation. While I have nothing against Bobby Lutz personally, I think he'd be a very, very dark horse in a race for an empty men's basketball office at HCC.

What many of our younger men, women, boys and girls are probably not aware of is that Lutz has been passed over for the head basketball coaching position at ASU on at least two and perhaps three occasions in the last 25 years. I'm not certain how enthusiastic he'd be in answering his phone if his caller ID was showing "ASU Athletics."

He most definitely was a finalist for the position twice--and the nods went in other directions. There was a time that he harbored a lot of hurt feelings and animosity toward our Alma Mater. Whether a salary offer of $275,000 plus perks from Cobb would change his outlook is an unknown unless there have already been some feelers placed. Cobb knows he'll have to get out the big checkbook this time around. He knows what it would have taken to retain Peterson; and he's already paying Darcie Vincent well over $200,000 for coaching the ASU women. There will be no more bargain basement signings by Cobb as long as he's at ASU. He's got to hit a homerun with his next basketball hire; and he knows it.

You say you go all the way back to Jerry Steele. How long did he stay before he went back to High Point...two weeks?
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppDawg » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:12 pm

Add me to te Bruce Pearl fanclub. He would bring the energy and excitement our entire program desperately needs.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by Nugget49 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:27 pm

asu66 wrote: What many of our younger men, women, boys and girls are probably not aware of is that Lutz has been passed over for the head basketball coaching position at ASU on at least two and perhaps three occasions in the last 25 years. I'm not certain how enthusiastic he'd be in answering his phone if his caller ID was showing "ASU Athletics."

He most definitely was a finalist for the position twice--and the nods went in other directions. There was a time that he harbored a lot of hurt feelings and animosity toward our Alma Mater. Whether a salary offer of $275,000 plus perks from Cobb would change his outlook is an unknown unless there have already been some feelers placed. Cobb knows he'll have to get out the big checkbook this time around. He knows what it would have taken to retain Peterson; and he's already paying Darcie Vincent well over $200,000 for coaching the ASU women. There will be no more bargain basement signings by Cobb as long as he's at ASU. He's got to hit a homerun with his next basketball hire; and he knows it.
I have never heard that Lutz interviewed at App, although it sounds reasonable. When?

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:29 pm

asutrnr81 wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Gonzo wrote:How about Buzz Peterson? :D
I am guessing you are also going to suggest we hire Mike Working as an assistant as well in football? :D
Oh H$!! no! It will not make any difference to anyone, but I will quit ASU, The Liberry Tailgates, the YOSEF club, the whole dang thing if Mike Working is ever rehired in any capacity by ASU!
A few posts up someone said you would have a word or two to say when that name was mentioned. That were not kidding. :D :D
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by T-Dog » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:33 pm

Pearl's NCAA show-cause ends in August 2014. It just means that he can't recruit if he's hired by someone. Also, it can be appealed by a school hiring him to be shortened.

Of course you have to look at what he did to get the show-cause. He lied about hosting a recruit at a backyard barbecue. Not exactly an act worthy of tar and feathers.

To me, he should be #1 on the list. He lives in Knoxville and wouldn't have to move far. He is a proven winner and great promoter. Fill the contract with incentives and let him do work.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:56 pm

Bobby Lutz is a class act and he did not tamper with Donte. It would be a great hire.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by IGgreer » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:55 pm

Charlie Cobb will hire the JV girls bball coach at Watauga High School for the job. Get rid of Cobb or keep him out of the process if a change is to be made...

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