More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by Black Saturday » Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm

Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by ericsaid » Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:39 pm

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We compare better to Clemson than we did to Michigan in 07. With that said, we have also been just 2-10 against P5 since 2014. A couple of really close ones that went to last-minute plays or OT, but also some blowouts. An L is an L though. I think this game could go either way at this point and a lot of that is going to depend of the Clemson lockerroom morale with all that pressure surrounding their 3 year slide. Our guys will be ready and the biggest factor on our side will be how strong we come out of the gate. Slow start means a loss and possibly a blow out.
2-10 huh?

App is 3-3 since 2019. With two, two point losses and a loss in 2OT.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by ericsaid » Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:42 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm
Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
I’d imagine the team doesn’t show up with an ounce of the fright I’ve seen on this board of a “pissed off Clemson” team. Let them stew. Anger may translate for a drive or two, but not the entire game. Take the first punch, counter with an upper cut.

I expect we will find that the game plan, particularly in the running and blocking scheme, against ETSU was rather vanilla. 2019 vibes this year boys. Another 2019 and App should be in the drivers seat for the CFP.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:29 am

ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:42 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm
Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
I’d imagine the team doesn’t show up with an ounce of the fright I’ve seen on this board of a “pissed off Clemson” team. Let them stew. Anger may translate for a drive or two, but not the entire game. Take the first punch, counter with an upper cut.

I expect we will find that the game plan, particularly in the running and blocking scheme, against ETSU was rather vanilla. 2019 vibes this year boys. Another 2019 and App should be in the drivers seat for the CFP.
I would love to see that happen. I feel like we need to see where we are after Liberty before the playoff can even be an expectation but I do agree we could be like 2019 and that this team is capable of beating Clemson. I will say that I believe Clemson is better than both the SC and UNC teams we beat that year and I have concerns after the ETSU game but hoping we corrected enough to alleviate those concerns. I will feel even better if Hopper and Stroman are able to give us some quality playing time.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by MrCraig » Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:15 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:29 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:42 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm
Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
I’d imagine the team doesn’t show up with an ounce of the fright I’ve seen on this board of a “pissed off Clemson” team. Let them stew. Anger may translate for a drive or two, but not the entire game. Take the first punch, counter with an upper cut.

I expect we will find that the game plan, particularly in the running and blocking scheme, against ETSU was rather vanilla. 2019 vibes this year boys. Another 2019 and App should be in the drivers seat for the CFP.
I would love to see that happen. I feel like we need to see where we are after Liberty before the playoff can even be an expectation but I do agree we could be like 2019 and that this team is capable of beating Clemson. I will say that I believe Clemson is better than both the SC and UNC teams we beat that year and I have concerns after the ETSU game but hoping we corrected enough to alleviate those concerns. I will feel even better if Hopper and Stroman are able to give us some quality playing time.
I second that. Clemson and Liberty will be real evidence of what this season will be. Those are probably App's two best opponents on the schedule. 2-0 and we're looking at a historic season, 1-1 will be a very good year, 0-2 could lead to disappointment.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:22 am

Clemson QB sucks…and they will want to grind down our D. We need our running game to step up in this one

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:33 am

MrCraig wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:15 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:29 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:42 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm
Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
I’d imagine the team doesn’t show up with an ounce of the fright I’ve seen on this board of a “pissed off Clemson” team. Let them stew. Anger may translate for a drive or two, but not the entire game. Take the first punch, counter with an upper cut.

I expect we will find that the game plan, particularly in the running and blocking scheme, against ETSU was rather vanilla. 2019 vibes this year boys. Another 2019 and App should be in the drivers seat for the CFP.
I would love to see that happen. I feel like we need to see where we are after Liberty before the playoff can even be an expectation but I do agree we could be like 2019 and that this team is capable of beating Clemson. I will say that I believe Clemson is better than both the SC and UNC teams we beat that year and I have concerns after the ETSU game but hoping we corrected enough to alleviate those concerns. I will feel even better if Hopper and Stroman are able to give us some quality playing time.
I second that. Clemson and Liberty will be real evidence of what this season will be. Those are probably App's two best opponents on the schedule. 2-0 and we're looking at a historic season, 1-1 will be a very good year, 0-2 could lead to disappointment.
I would add to the last thought to include how we respond next week will tell us a lot. How do the kids and coaches respond win or lose this week. After Saturday, we have a stretch of 3 games in 14 days. It could go sideways just as easily as it could keep rolling if emotions and energy aren’t properly managed.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:07 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:29 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:42 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm
Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
I’d imagine the team doesn’t show up with an ounce of the fright I’ve seen on this board of a “pissed off Clemson” team. Let them stew. Anger may translate for a drive or two, but not the entire game. Take the first punch, counter with an upper cut.

I expect we will find that the game plan, particularly in the running and blocking scheme, against ETSU was rather vanilla. 2019 vibes this year boys. Another 2019 and App should be in the drivers seat for the CFP.
I would love to see that happen. I feel like we need to see where we are after Liberty before the playoff can even be an expectation but I do agree we could be like 2019 and that this team is capable of beating Clemson. I will say that I believe Clemson is better than both the SC and UNC teams we beat that year and I have concerns after the ETSU game but hoping we corrected enough to alleviate those concerns. I will feel even better if Hopper and Stroman are able to give us some quality playing time.
I don’t think it’s too early to mention playoff. This game is very consequential to that goal, honestly. It will also be a playoff like atmosphere for anywhere that App may end up should this squad be able to navigate their schedule.

Each week is going to be huge though. Liberty has Chadwell, though I don’t think they are particularly good, they are tricky to similarly talented opponents, and ECU has had an offensive makeover.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:11 am

MrCraig wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:15 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:29 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:42 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm
Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
I’d imagine the team doesn’t show up with an ounce of the fright I’ve seen on this board of a “pissed off Clemson” team. Let them stew. Anger may translate for a drive or two, but not the entire game. Take the first punch, counter with an upper cut.

I expect we will find that the game plan, particularly in the running and blocking scheme, against ETSU was rather vanilla. 2019 vibes this year boys. Another 2019 and App should be in the drivers seat for the CFP.
I would love to see that happen. I feel like we need to see where we are after Liberty before the playoff can even be an expectation but I do agree we could be like 2019 and that this team is capable of beating Clemson. I will say that I believe Clemson is better than both the SC and UNC teams we beat that year and I have concerns after the ETSU game but hoping we corrected enough to alleviate those concerns. I will feel even better if Hopper and Stroman are able to give us some quality playing time.
I second that. Clemson and Liberty will be real evidence of what this season will be. Those are probably App's two best opponents on the schedule. 2-0 and we're looking at a historic season, 1-1 will be a very good year, 0-2 could lead to disappointment.
ECU is going to be much better this year as they are back to running an Air Raid style offense with a QB ideally suited to that (former recruiting darling Jake Garcia).

Then you have the Sun Belt East which, as per usual, is still very, very good. App also gets Louisiana and South Alabama from the West.

I don’t think Liberty is the toughest nor the best team behind Clemson. They would likely compete for a division title in the Sun Belt but they aren’t world beaters. They went 13-0 last year and got the NY6 by the committee using the exact opposite logic used to keep FSU out of the CFP.

And they also struggled against Campbell.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by fjblair » Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:17 am

I don't know why you guys read that predictable and completely expected fan board blather, and then act slighted and offended. What were you expecting?

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:12 am

ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:07 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:29 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:42 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:20 pm
Are there really 17 points difference in a healthy top G5 team and a 20-25th ranked P4?

Scratching my head on this logic, and they want to invite us or our likes to be in a playoff with the top 11?

The rubber meets the road Saturday.
I’d imagine the team doesn’t show up with an ounce of the fright I’ve seen on this board of a “pissed off Clemson” team. Let them stew. Anger may translate for a drive or two, but not the entire game. Take the first punch, counter with an upper cut.

I expect we will find that the game plan, particularly in the running and blocking scheme, against ETSU was rather vanilla. 2019 vibes this year boys. Another 2019 and App should be in the drivers seat for the CFP.
I would love to see that happen. I feel like we need to see where we are after Liberty before the playoff can even be an expectation but I do agree we could be like 2019 and that this team is capable of beating Clemson. I will say that I believe Clemson is better than both the SC and UNC teams we beat that year and I have concerns after the ETSU game but hoping we corrected enough to alleviate those concerns. I will feel even better if Hopper and Stroman are able to give us some quality playing time.
I don’t think it’s too early to mention playoff. This game is very consequential to that goal, honestly. It will also be a playoff like atmosphere for anywhere that App may end up should this squad be able to navigate their schedule.

Each week is going to be huge though. Liberty has Chadwell, though I don’t think they are particularly good, they are tricky to similarly talented opponents, and ECU has had an offensive makeover.
The reason I say it is too early is because the loser of that game will be out of playoff contention pretty much. Even beyond that example it is way too early and just people wasting dreams at this point. Many pundits thought FSU was and by the end of week 2 they are already considered eliminated. The reality is that no G5 team is a serious playoff contender before the middle of November though.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by t4pizza » Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:39 am

No team is eliminated yet because every P4 conference chance is automatically in the playoff and the highest rated G5 conference champ is in as well. Since no team is yet eliminated from a conference championship and we have no idea what G5 conference champ will be the highest rated, no team is truly eliminated from the playoff yet.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by KentHogan » Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:51 am

ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:39 pm
appdaze wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:00 pm
We compare better to Clemson than we did to Michigan in 07. With that said, we have also been just 2-10 against P5 since 2014. A couple of really close ones that went to last-minute plays or OT, but also some blowouts. An L is an L though. I think this game could go either way at this point and a lot of that is going to depend of the Clemson lockerroom morale with all that pressure surrounding their 3 year slide. Our guys will be ready and the biggest factor on our side will be how strong we come out of the gate. Slow start means a loss and possibly a blow out.
2-10 huh?

App is 3-3 since 2019. With two, two point losses and a loss in 2OT.
Yeah, we have beaten UNC, South Carolina and Texas A&M since 2019. Lost to UNC and Miami.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppOrange » Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:00 pm

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:03 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:39 am
No team is eliminated yet because every P4 conference chance is automatically in the playoff and the highest rated G5 conference champ is in as well. Since no team is yet eliminated from a conference championship and we have no idea what G5 conference champ will be the highest rated, no team is truly eliminated from the playoff yet.
FSU is not technically eliminated but they have 2 ACC losses already so that will be difficult to rebound from.

No G5 is eliminated yet but my point was that we should wait a few weeks to see how Clemson, ECU, and Liberty go because if we lose 2 of those then that would eliminate us without a ton of help. Every year there is a G5 with just 1 loss or undefeated heading into bowl season so if we have 2 losses before October I would consider us out of it.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:07 pm

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go Oregon
100%! If we start out 5-0 and Tulane, Memphis, and Boise all lose this weekend we would definitely be in the drivers seat. I want to see how all these games play out before I even think about our chances though. If we lose to Clemson but Tulane or Boise wins against their ranked P4 this weekend then they are in the drivers seat for the playoff spot.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:29 pm

None of what happens, win ore lose, this weekend matters if they don’t win their conference. There is a lot of ball left.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by appdaze » Sat Sep 07, 2024 7:14 am

ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:39 pm
appdaze wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:00 pm
We compare better to Clemson than we did to Michigan in 07. With that said, we have also been just 2-10 against P5 since 2014. A couple of really close ones that went to last-minute plays or OT, but also some blowouts. An L is an L though. I think this game could go either way at this point and a lot of that is going to depend of the Clemson lockerroom morale with all that pressure surrounding their 3 year slide. Our guys will be ready and the biggest factor on our side will be how strong we come out of the gate. Slow start means a loss and possibly a blow out.
2-10 huh?

App is 3-3 since 2019. With two, two point losses and a loss in 2OT.
Which games are you counting. I may have missed one.

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Re: More threads from Clemson board- CU fans expect a beatdown

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Sep 07, 2024 7:59 am

appdaze wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 7:14 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:39 pm
appdaze wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:00 pm
We compare better to Clemson than we did to Michigan in 07. With that said, we have also been just 2-10 against P5 since 2014. A couple of really close ones that went to last-minute plays or OT, but also some blowouts. An L is an L though. I think this game could go either way at this point and a lot of that is going to depend of the Clemson lockerroom morale with all that pressure surrounding their 3 year slide. Our guys will be ready and the biggest factor on our side will be how strong we come out of the gate. Slow start means a loss and possibly a blow out.
2-10 huh?

App is 3-3 since 2019. With two, two point losses and a loss in 2OT.
Which games are you counting. I may have missed one.
UNC and South Carolina along with Texas A & M

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