So you just agreed with me that we shouldn't worry about the SoCon since we too will be a full level up. Thank you for coming around!JCline0429 wrote:And why should they? They're a full level up+. I'm referring to the present SoCon and FCS fans as well as exited members.
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Aren't you leaving out someone else?Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
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Two (or too) really.Kgfish wrote:Aren't you leaving out someone else?Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
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Thry were tlking about the SEC and ACC. We are not a full level up if you if you are talking about the SEC and ACC. They are in a diffeent universe so to speak. I don't care what the big boys think about our recently departed SoCon. But I do care about what people look at us and think, "look where the mighty Apps came from...the sukkiest conference in all of NCAA FCS" The big boys like the SEC and ACC don't care about anybody but themselves.. When I left one postition for another a long time ago, I wanted my previous program not only to maintain what I felt I had accomplished or even improve itself. Otherwise, I would have felt like I had failed. Looks like that's just me.JTApps1 wrote:So you just agreed with me that we shouldn't worry about the SoCon since we too will be a full level up. Thank you for coming around!JCline0429 wrote:And why should they? They're a full level up+. I'm referring to the present SoCon and FCS fans as well as exited members.
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I couldn't care less what happens to the SoCon. Just like an old pair of jeans, it was a good fit for a long time, but we outgrew it.
Clinging to the SoCon is like the loser who graduates from high school and goes to college but prefers to hang out at the high school so he can be around his old underclassmen friends. Pathetic. We have moved up, now let's move on.
Western who?
Clinging to the SoCon is like the loser who graduates from high school and goes to college but prefers to hang out at the high school so he can be around his old underclassmen friends. Pathetic. We have moved up, now let's move on.
Western who?

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Any knowledgeable FCS fan will know where we came from, and that the SoCon was once a strong football conference when we were a part of it. We can't help it that everyone is deciding to jump ship.JCline0429 wrote:Thry were tlking about the SEC and ACC. We are not a full level up if you if you are talking about the SEC and ACC. They are in a diffeent universe so to speak. I don't care what the big boys think about our recently departed SoCon. But I do care about what people look at us and think, "look where the mighty Apps came from...the sukkiest conference in all of NCAA FCS" The big boys like the SEC and ACC don't care about anybody but themselves.. When I left one postition for another a long time ago, I wanted my previous program not only to maintain what I felt I had accomplished or even improve itself. Otherwise, I would have felt like I had failed. Looks like that's just me.JTApps1 wrote:So you just agreed with me that we shouldn't worry about the SoCon since we too will be a full level up. Thank you for coming around!JCline0429 wrote:And why should they? They're a full level up+. I'm referring to the present SoCon and FCS fans as well as exited members.
Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?
Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
One game does not a postseason make.
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I highly doubt Georgia Southern would not have moved up if App had chosen to stay. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
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Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?ASU-FTW wrote:I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
One game does not a postseason make.
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There will always be knocks on the Sun Belt for one reason or another, but judging by the SoCon's recent moves, I'm even more glad we left. It isn't like we had other options.vegattk wrote:Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?ASU-FTW wrote:I highly doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
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Certainly, but it doesn't mean that some of us folks like them... Too much of a "wandering the desert" feel to all of this. We're out of Egypt but the promised land hasn't been seen or found yet. Maybe if we hadn't been worshiping that damn FBS idol we wouldn't have to wait 40 years to find where we need to go.ASU-FTW wrote:There will always be knocks on the Sun Belt for one reason or another, but judging by the SoCon's recent moves, I'm even more glad we left. It isn't like we had other options.vegattk wrote:Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?ASU-FTW wrote:I highly doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:Gonzo wrote: UUUHHHHH.....
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
One game does not a postseason make.
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I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.
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I wouldn't call three national championships and a win over Michigan "stumbling"GlassOnion wrote:I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.
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Having a hard time understanding the constant obsession with the post season. This move has me more excited about the possibility of renewing games with schools we once played and others much more interesting than those we have been playing.vegattk wrote:Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?ASU-FTW wrote:I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
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Three great years out of thirty in I-AA / FCS? I'd call that stumbling a bit.vegattk wrote:I wouldn't call three national championships and a win over Michigan "stumbling"GlassOnion wrote:I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.
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How many losing seasons? Do you count those?Kgfish wrote:Three great years out of thirty in I-AA / FCS? I'd call that stumbling a bit.vegattk wrote:I wouldn't call three national championships and a win over Michigan "stumbling"GlassOnion wrote:I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.
How many games did you get to in that 30 years? How many great moments with family at football games?
Lots... It's been great!
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I believe it's a generational thing.. Some folks grew up with rivals in the FCS and could care less about rivals with mediocre FBS teamsKgfish wrote:Having a hard time understanding the constant obsession with the post season. This move has me more excited about the possibility of renewing games with schools we once played and others much more interesting than those we have been playing.vegattk wrote:Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?ASU-FTW wrote:I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:Gonzo wrote: UUUHHHHH.....
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
One game does not a postseason make.
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Just look at it this way: Sun Belt > SoCon. Once that is accepted, the move is easier to take. Glass half-full.vegattk wrote:Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?ASU-FTW wrote:I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:Gonzo wrote:UUUHHHHH.....hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.

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Could you be specific? Do you think where "we need to go" is located in the FCS? I'm not sure I see any situation in the FCS that is as/more beneficial to App State than the Sun Belt. If there is a better situation, I'd be disappointed if we had the opportunity and passed it up.vegattk wrote:Certainly, but it doesn't mean that some of us folks like them... Too much of a "wandering the desert" feel to all of this. We're out of Egypt but the promised land hasn't been seen or found yet. Maybe if we hadn't been worshiping that damn FBS idol we wouldn't have to wait 40 years to find where we need to go.ASU-FTW wrote:There will always be knocks on the Sun Belt for one reason or another, but judging by the SoCon's recent moves, I'm even more glad we left. It isn't like we had other options.vegattk wrote:Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?ASU-FTW wrote:I highly doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.vegattk wrote:
I suppose you mean me...
One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.
App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...
(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
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