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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue May 07, 2013 1:31 pm

JCline0429 wrote:And why should they? They're a full level up+. I'm referring to the present SoCon and FCS fans as well as exited members.
So you just agreed with me that we shouldn't worry about the SoCon since we too will be a full level up. Thank you for coming around!

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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by Kgfish » Tue May 07, 2013 1:43 pm

Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
Aren't you leaving out someone else? :?:
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Unread post by AppinVA » Tue May 07, 2013 2:36 pm

Kgfish wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
Aren't you leaving out someone else? :?:
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by JCline0429 » Tue May 07, 2013 8:18 pm

JTApps1 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:And why should they? They're a full level up+. I'm referring to the present SoCon and FCS fans as well as exited members.
So you just agreed with me that we shouldn't worry about the SoCon since we too will be a full level up. Thank you for coming around!
Thry were tlking about the SEC and ACC. We are not a full level up if you if you are talking about the SEC and ACC. They are in a diffeent universe so to speak. I don't care what the big boys think about our recently departed SoCon. But I do care about what people look at us and think, "look where the mighty Apps came from...the sukkiest conference in all of NCAA FCS" The big boys like the SEC and ACC don't care about anybody but themselves.. When I left one postition for another a long time ago, I wanted my previous program not only to maintain what I felt I had accomplished or even improve itself. Otherwise, I would have felt like I had failed. Looks like that's just me.
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Tue May 07, 2013 9:22 pm

I couldn't care less what happens to the SoCon. Just like an old pair of jeans, it was a good fit for a long time, but we outgrew it.
Clinging to the SoCon is like the loser who graduates from high school and goes to college but prefers to hang out at the high school so he can be around his old underclassmen friends. Pathetic. We have moved up, now let's move on.
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by ASU-FTW » Tue May 07, 2013 9:23 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:And why should they? They're a full level up+. I'm referring to the present SoCon and FCS fans as well as exited members.
So you just agreed with me that we shouldn't worry about the SoCon since we too will be a full level up. Thank you for coming around!
Thry were tlking about the SEC and ACC. We are not a full level up if you if you are talking about the SEC and ACC. They are in a diffeent universe so to speak. I don't care what the big boys think about our recently departed SoCon. But I do care about what people look at us and think, "look where the mighty Apps came from...the sukkiest conference in all of NCAA FCS" The big boys like the SEC and ACC don't care about anybody but themselves.. When I left one postition for another a long time ago, I wanted my previous program not only to maintain what I felt I had accomplished or even improve itself. Otherwise, I would have felt like I had failed. Looks like that's just me.
Any knowledgeable FCS fan will know where we came from, and that the SoCon was once a strong football conference when we were a part of it. We can't help it that everyone is deciding to jump ship.

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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by vegattk » Tue May 07, 2013 9:30 pm

Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by ASU-FTW » Tue May 07, 2013 9:33 pm

vegattk wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I highly doubt Georgia Southern would not have moved up if App had chosen to stay. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by vegattk » Tue May 07, 2013 9:36 pm

ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?

Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by ASU-FTW » Tue May 07, 2013 9:39 pm

vegattk wrote:
ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I highly doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?

Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
There will always be knocks on the Sun Belt for one reason or another, but judging by the SoCon's recent moves, I'm even more glad we left. It isn't like we had other options.

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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by vegattk » Tue May 07, 2013 9:42 pm

ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
Gonzo wrote: UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I highly doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?

Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
There will always be knocks on the Sun Belt for one reason or another, but judging by the SoCon's recent moves, I'm even more glad we left. It isn't like we had other options.
Certainly, but it doesn't mean that some of us folks like them... Too much of a "wandering the desert" feel to all of this. We're out of Egypt but the promised land hasn't been seen or found yet. Maybe if we hadn't been worshiping that damn FBS idol we wouldn't have to wait 40 years to find where we need to go.
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by GlassOnion » Tue May 07, 2013 9:57 pm

I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.

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Unread post by vegattk » Tue May 07, 2013 10:28 pm

GlassOnion wrote:I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.
I wouldn't call three national championships and a win over Michigan "stumbling"
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by Kgfish » Tue May 07, 2013 11:03 pm

vegattk wrote:
ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?

Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
Having a hard time understanding the constant obsession with the post season. This move has me more excited about the possibility of renewing games with schools we once played and others much more interesting than those we have been playing.
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by Kgfish » Tue May 07, 2013 11:06 pm

vegattk wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.
I wouldn't call three national championships and a win over Michigan "stumbling"
Three great years out of thirty in I-AA / FCS? I'd call that stumbling a bit.
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Unread post by WER4ASU » Wed May 08, 2013 6:52 am

Agree! 17 years of wandering around in FCS,1AA -whatever.

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Kgfish wrote:
vegattk wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:I think all of these decades App has been stumbling along in FCS are more like the "40 years in the desert" than the Sun Belt will be.
I wouldn't call three national championships and a win over Michigan "stumbling"
Three great years out of thirty in I-AA / FCS? I'd call that stumbling a bit.
How many losing seasons? Do you count those?

How many games did you get to in that 30 years? How many great moments with family at football games?

Lots... It's been great!
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by vegattk » Wed May 08, 2013 7:17 am

Kgfish wrote:
vegattk wrote:
ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
Gonzo wrote: UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?

Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
Having a hard time understanding the constant obsession with the post season. This move has me more excited about the possibility of renewing games with schools we once played and others much more interesting than those we have been playing.
I believe it's a generational thing.. Some folks grew up with rivals in the FCS and could care less about rivals with mediocre FBS teams
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Wed May 08, 2013 7:34 am

vegattk wrote:
ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
hapapp wrote:I don't think anyone here is moaning and groaning about leaving.
UUUHHHHH.....

There's this guy named veg......He makes memes.....
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I have little doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?

Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
Just look at it this way: Sun Belt > SoCon. Once that is accepted, the move is easier to take. Glass half-full. :D
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Re: VMI to rejoin SoCon?

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Wed May 08, 2013 7:37 am

vegattk wrote:
ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
ASU-FTW wrote:
vegattk wrote:
:) I suppose you mean me...

One has to think that if App didn't go.. Georgia Southern might not have.. and the dominoes wouldn't have been started.

App and GSU leaving started this SOCON fire and it's spread out of control since then...

(Of course one could say that the Commish was playing with matches before hand... But that's a whole 'nother matter)
I highly doubt Georgia Southern would have moved up no matter what App did. Their administration was hell-bent on moving up and they were very vocal about it. If we hadn't moved as well, we would be sharing a seat in limbo with JMU, somewhere between the dumper that is the SoCon and FBS.
Isn't the SunBelt a bit of FBS Limbo to begin with?

Not saying the SOCON was the best place to stay (after Sammy you could tell what type of direction the conference was going towards), but to "settle" on the Belt... with no foreseeable postseason... is a bit of limbo-ish Hell.
There will always be knocks on the Sun Belt for one reason or another, but judging by the SoCon's recent moves, I'm even more glad we left. It isn't like we had other options.
Certainly, but it doesn't mean that some of us folks like them... Too much of a "wandering the desert" feel to all of this. We're out of Egypt but the promised land hasn't been seen or found yet. Maybe if we hadn't been worshiping that damn FBS idol we wouldn't have to wait 40 years to find where we need to go.
Could you be specific? Do you think where "we need to go" is located in the FCS? I'm not sure I see any situation in the FCS that is as/more beneficial to App State than the Sun Belt. If there is a better situation, I'd be disappointed if we had the opportunity and passed it up.
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