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[AppStFan1]

6 OT to UNC (at home). Lost by 35 to Duke, 2 FCS wins, and a win against ODU and Miami (the one that lost to FIU). And you people think we need to tone it down? What's the matter with yall. I stand by my statement that we'd beat VA Tech handedly.

If we played VT back on October 19th then yes I agree we would beat them for sure. If you look at the whole resume then yes you are right it looks like we would.

However, ignore the early part of the year. They have switched QBs. Go back and watch VT against Notre Dame. They had them on the ropes and really should have beat them. They beat a ranked WFU 36-17, shutout GT 45-0, and then beat a solid Pitt team 28-0. They are not the same team that struggled with UNC and lost to Duke.

I don't think we beat this current VT team for sure. I could see us winning but could also see them beat us by 14 or so. If they beat UVA then they will face Clemson for the ACC title. If that game is very close then I will fully believe they are a team we don't want to face.

Anything can happen in games. Had we just not blocked the field goal we could have ended up in multiple overtimes and even lost to UNC. It is not like we dominated UNC and SC for 4 quarters. We have shown we can dominate them at times but we really have to show we can play at that level for four quarters. That is something VT has done the last 3 weeks.

[AppStateMtneer]

Losing to Gnat South was inexcusable. I'm fine with 25....

[hapapp]

6 OT to UNC (at home). Lost by 35 to Duke, 2 FCS wins, and a win against ODU and Miami (the one that lost to FIU). And you people think we need to tone it down? What's the matter with yall. I stand by my statement that we'd beat VA Tech handedly.

There's a reason the committee put them ahead of us and its not because we would be them by 10+. Could we beat them, certainly. But, to suggest we would beat them handily means you haven't paid attention to how they have played lately.

[EastHallApp]

VT is playing well now and would be favored over us. However, the whole season counts. The fact that they’re ranked despite their terrible early season play plus OOC wins over two FCS teams and one of the 10 worst in FBS is another example of a brand name P5 getting virtually unlimited forgiveness from the CFP.

[appstatealum]

I stand by my original assessment, if App wants to, we can play with any team ranked 8-25. Losing Sutton really knocks us down a bit, as he is a mismatch for anyone and give us an X factor. But I don't think Drink has taken the training wheels off this team offensively and he is content with just winning when the clock hits zero.

[yosef69]

I stand by my original assessment, if App wants to, we can play with any team ranked 8-25. Losing Sutton really knocks us down a bit, as he is a mismatch for anyone and give us an X factor. But I don't think Drink has taken the training wheels off this team offensively and he is content with just winning when the clock hits zero.

Bingo. Maybe he will take them off against the troy defense and light it up instead of insisting on running a sprinter up the middle endlessly.

[hapapp]

We have been passed by mediocre teams in better conferences who have 3 or more losses on the season, and App hasn't lost more than 3 games over the last 2 seasons. The Sunbelt continues to battle a perception problem and their leadership does absolutely nothing to improve their image. Great job. They ought to offer us free concessions or something during the championship game in return for what we've done for them

Here is what our fanbase must understand. 3-4 losses in the ACC, SEC, etc is probably as good as just having 1 loss in the SBC.

Here is the VT schedule: https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... e/_/id/259

Be honest. What do you think our record would be? I think we would also be 8-3 but I don't think VT would have lost to Duke or BC with the current QB. They would be 10-1 had they started with him and probably be ranked 12-15 range now.

Outside of ULL the SBC is not seen as very good and the only conferences it is better than is the MAC and CUSA as a whole.

Again, there are people on here who argue with me that we don't have to make statements but simply just win. Just winning is not good enough. Message to Drink: You have to make statements. I agree with what the committee did here. If we were VT fans we would look at our schedule and laugh that we were even this close to them. We should be thankful we stayed in the top 25. We must beat Troy by 3-4 TDs and hope that 3-4 teams in the 18-24 range lose this weekend.

I feel like we are a top 25 caliber team but we have not had to play teams like South Carolina and UNC every week like teams such as VT have to do. We could have easily lost those games and I suspect we would be 8-3 right now instead of 10-1 if we changed schedules. I'm pretty sure VT would be 11-0 with our schedule.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they would be 11-0 based on how poorly they started the season. They struggled early and if we played in the first couple of weeks of the season, I think we beat them. Today might be a different matter.

[yosef69]

6 OT to UNC (at home). Lost by 35 to Duke, 2 FCS wins, and a win against ODU and Miami (the one that lost to FIU). And you people think we need to tone it down? What's the matter with yall. I stand by my statement that we'd beat VA Tech handedly.

There's a reason the committee put them ahead of us and its not because we would be them by 10+. Could we beat them, certainly. But, to suggest we would beat them handily means you haven't paid attention to how they have played lately.

That reason is conference affiliation. End conversation.

[Cro-Magnon App]

Could/Would we beat all those 3 and 4 loss teams and those G5 teams ahead if us? Depends on which ASU team shows up - the first half team or the second half team. Sometimes, many times, we have played half a game and looked terrible. Got to go opening bell to final buzzer. We do that we could beat some teams.

[ASU2012]

Deserved. We looked flat vs. a terrible team at home. No idea why Drink didn’t press harder in the 4th. Style points matter when you play in the Sunbelt. You have to run up the score. We didn’t do that. We didn’t cover the spread vs. Texas State.

[citroknight]

We have been passed by mediocre teams in better conferences who have 3 or more losses on the season, and App hasn't lost more than 3 games over the last 2 seasons. The Sunbelt continues to battle a perception problem and their leadership does absolutely nothing to improve their image. Great job. They ought to offer us free concessions or something during the championship game in return for what we've done for them

Here is what our fanbase must understand. 3-4 losses in the ACC, SEC, etc is probably as good as just having 1 loss in the SBC.

Here is the VT schedule: https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... e/_/id/259

Be honest. What do you think our record would be? I think we would also be 8-3 but I don't think VT would have lost to Duke or BC with the current QB. They would be 10-1 had they started with him and probably be ranked 12-15 range now.

Outside of ULL the SBC is not seen as very good and the only conferences it is better than is the MAC and CUSA as a whole.

Again, there are people on here who argue with me that we don't have to make statements but simply just win. Just winning is not good enough. Message to Drink: You have to make statements. I agree with what the committee did here. If we were VT fans we would look at our schedule and laugh that we were even this close to them. We should be thankful we stayed in the top 25. We must beat Troy by 3-4 TDs and hope that 3-4 teams in the 18-24 range lose this weekend.

I feel like we are a top 25 caliber team but we have not had to play teams like South Carolina and UNC every week like teams such as VT have to do. We could have easily lost those games and I suspect we would be 8-3 right now instead of 10-1 if we changed schedules. I'm pretty sure VT would be 11-0 with our schedule.

Very fair take. Even though the top tier G5 teams have better execution than the mediocre and bad P5s, probably like 90%+ of those teams still have better and deeper talent. So it makes beating even the mediocre ones tough. My fellow UCF fans are mad about losing to Pitt, and I am too, but they dismiss Pitt because they haven't been great but UCF averages mid to high 50s nationally in recruiting while Pitt averages like mid 30s.

[EastHallApp]

It’a true that some of our fans bitch too much about being behind 3- and 4-loss teams with no regard to SoS. To hear some people talk, an 8-3 team is basically the Washington Generals of CFB.

I have zero complaint being behind teams like Auburn and Iowa. They haven’t lost any games we wouldn’t have lost too, and they’ve beaten teams we probably wouldn’t have. Fine.

I can see the case either way between us and Iowa State or USC.

VT is a different story. They’ve had bad losses and some very shaky wins. And they have no wins over the current top 25 to counterbalance those.

[JMappfan5]

It’a true that some of our fans bitch too much about being behind 3- and 4-loss teams with no regard to SoS. To hear some people talk, an 8-3 team is basically the Washington Generals of CFB.

I have zero complaint being behind teams like Auburn and Iowa. They haven’t lost any games we wouldn’t have lost too, and they’ve beaten teams we probably wouldn’t have. Fine.

I can see the case either way between us and Iowa State or USC.

VT is a different story. They’ve had bad losses and some very shaky wins. And they have no wins over the current top 25 to counterbalance those.

The CFP is trying to get a ranked opponent for the ACC Championship game vs. Clemson.

[AppStFan1]

A 1 point ballgame in the 3rd Quarter not going to "move the needle" for most pollsters. At least we are still ranked. I am relieved and somewhat surprised.

I am also relieved that we are ranked. I thought either 25 or unranked. I hope this was a wake-up call to our coaches and players. We need to win big the next two weeks. Just a 3 point win against ULL is not enough.

It is getting to the point where teams have rival games and conference title games so we really need to stand out with our scores. This week is time for a 42-3 type game over Troy and then something like 28-7 over ULL. We really need to make some big statements.

[hapapp]

It’a true that some of our fans bitch too much about being behind 3- and 4-loss teams with no regard to SoS. To hear some people talk, an 8-3 team is basically the Washington Generals of CFB.

I have zero complaint being behind teams like Auburn and Iowa. They haven’t lost any games we wouldn’t have lost too, and they’ve beaten teams we probably wouldn’t have. Fine.

I can see the case either way between us and Iowa State or USC.

VT is a different story. They’ve had bad losses and some very shaky wins. And they have no wins over the current top 25 to counterbalance those.

Though Wake was ranked when they beat them.

[AppInDC]

It’a true that some of our fans bitch too much about being behind 3- and 4-loss teams with no regard to SoS. To hear some people talk, an 8-3 team is basically the Washington Generals of CFB.

I have zero complaint being behind teams like Auburn and Iowa. They haven’t lost any games we wouldn’t have lost too, and they’ve beaten teams we probably wouldn’t have. Fine.

I can see the case either way between us and Iowa State or USC.

VT is a different story. They’ve had bad losses and some very shaky wins. And they have no wins over the current top 25 to counterbalance those.

The CFP is trying to get a ranked opponent for the ACC Championship game vs. Clemson.

I don't know if this is their logic, but if it is I'd say Virginia is a better team and a more deserving candidate to be ranked.

[AppStFan1]

It’a true that some of our fans bitch too much about being behind 3- and 4-loss teams with no regard to SoS. To hear some people talk, an 8-3 team is basically the Washington Generals of CFB.

I have zero complaint being behind teams like Auburn and Iowa. They haven’t lost any games we wouldn’t have lost too, and they’ve beaten teams we probably wouldn’t have. Fine.

I can see the case either way between us and Iowa State or USC.

VT is a different story. They’ve had bad losses and some very shaky wins. And they have no wins over the current top 25 to counterbalance those.

The CFP is trying to get a ranked opponent for the ACC Championship game vs. Clemson.

Wake Forest was ranked when they beat them. The winner of UVA vs VT will definitely be ranked next week but I think it's just how it worked out. VT has looked impressive the last few weeks. We will see if they are legit or if people had not figured out the new QB yet. If they beat UVA bad and hang close with Clemson then I will feel like they are for sure top 25.

[AppStFan1]

It’a true that some of our fans bitch too much about being behind 3- and 4-loss teams with no regard to SoS. To hear some people talk, an 8-3 team is basically the Washington Generals of CFB.

I have zero complaint being behind teams like Auburn and Iowa. They haven’t lost any games we wouldn’t have lost too, and they’ve beaten teams we probably wouldn’t have. Fine.

I can see the case either way between us and Iowa State or USC.

VT is a different story. They’ve had bad losses and some very shaky wins. And they have no wins over the current top 25 to counterbalance those.

The CFP is trying to get a ranked opponent for the ACC Championship game vs. Clemson.

I don't know if this is their logic, but if it is I'd say Virginia is a better team and a more deserving candidate to be ranked.

They play this week so we will find out. UVA would have been ranked if not for the Louisville loss.

[hapapp]

The VT-UVA series has become much like our rivalry with WCU when we still played. Its been well over a decade since UVA won.

[ah59396]

1. I’m glad we are still ranked at all

2. Winner of Va Tech/UVA will be ranked ahead of us next week because the ACC will not send an unranked team to the Conference championship to face Clemson. Guaranteed.

3. If we pussyfoot around with Troy and it’s a 7 point game in the 3rd, after they got DESTROYED by UL last week, the loser of Memphis/Cincy won’t drop beneath us, ending our Cotton Bowl dreams.

4. Oklahoma State and Boise are the only teams I’m 100% confident will fall behind us with a loss.

5. A Wake win over Syracuse would move them to 9-3 and a threat to our ranking.



All of this is to say, if we take care of business like we can/should, we can be 22/23rd after this week.