UNCC sees recruiting boost

[JCline0429]

If you have not been on UNCC campus in the last 5 years you should go check it out. They are not the step child of the UNC system any longer. With the plan to add a medical school they will turn out even more deep pockets. Say what you want but they are a threat to us in terms of recruiting in the years to come.

Yeah, I don't get the constant UNC hate either. I mean I understand the hate, but it's hard not to see what's going on down there and wish App was doing the same. I realize we have different institutional profiles and are geared for different needs, but I'm impressed with their professional schools. And like you say, that's where the money is.

Their new football stadium is nothing to sneeze at either. It's really really nice, and will be even better when expanded. I was checking their facilities page the other day and all of them are top notch. The baseball stadium is ridiculous.

They're definitely a threat and even more so with the FBS label.

Rankin, are referring to UNC or UNC-C? You said UNC.

[RankinApp]

Rankin, are referring to UNC or UNC-C? You said UNC.

My bad, UNC-Concord.

[JCline0429]

Rankin, are referring to UNC or UNC-C? You said UNC.

My bad, UNC-Concord.

I thought so but wasn't 100% sure.

[ASUPATCH]

If you have not been on UNCC campus in the last 5 years you should go check it out. They are not the step child of the UNC system any longer. With the plan to add a medical school they will turn out even more deep pockets. Say what you want but they are a threat to us in terms of recruiting in the years to come.

Yeah, I don't get the constant UNC hate either. I mean I understand the hate, but it's hard not to see what's going on down there and wish App was doing the same. I realize we have different institutional profiles and are geared for different needs, but I'm impressed with their professional schools. And like you say, that's where the money is.

Their new football stadium is nothing to sneeze at either. It's really really nice, and will be even better when expanded. I was checking their facilities page the other day and all of them are top notch. The baseball stadium is ridiculous.

They're definitely a threat and even more so with the FBS label.

Thi admissions are a joke. It is why they often get called unc cc. If you have a pulse you are accepted. My ssiter in law had a bad gpa, terrible s.a.t scores with no extracurriculars has never even held a job. Yet she got accepted. Im glad she was able to find a state school that would take her so her loans are minimal. But there is apsolutely no way she earned or deserved it. It is a joke as far as ungraduate education is concearned. Its where kids that cant get into UNC NC State App or ECU have to fall back on to stay near mommy and daddy. I wouldnt doubt if 80% of thier enrollment graduated high school in Mecklenburg or a county touching Mecklenburg.

[JCline0429]

If you have not been on UNCC campus in the last 5 years you should go check it out. They are not the step child of the UNC system any longer. With the plan to add a medical school they will turn out even more deep pockets. Say what you want but they are a threat to us in terms of recruiting in the years to come.

Yeah, I don't get the constant UNC hate either. I mean I understand the hate, but it's hard not to see what's going on down there and wish App was doing the same. I realize we have different institutional profiles and are geared for different needs, but I'm impressed with their professional schools. And like you say, that's where the money is.

Their new football stadium is nothing to sneeze at either. It's really really nice, and will be even better when expanded. I was checking their facilities page the other day and all of them are top notch. The baseball stadium is ridiculous.

They're definitely a threat and even more so with the FBS label.

Thi admissions are a joke. It is why they often get called unc cc. If you have a pulse you are accepted. My ssiter in law had a bad gpa, terrible s.a.t scores with no extracurriculars has never even held a job. Yet she got accepted. Im glad she was able to find a state school that would take her so her loans are minimal. But there is apsolutely no way she earned or deserved it. It is a joke as far as ungraduate education is concearned. Its where kids that cant get into UNC NC State App or ECU have to fall back on to stay near mommy and daddy. I wouldnt doubt if 80% of thier enrollment graduated high school in Mecklenburg or a county touching Mecklenburg.

From a little bit of working at CPCC, I found out that UNC-Harrisburg accepts pretty much anybody who graduates from Central Piedmont Community College regardless of their GPA. (and most other community colleges for that matter)

[RankinApp]

Their admissions are a joke..

Interesting story, I guess? Doesn't take away from the fact that they're graduating lots of students, have the professional schools for cash, and really nice facilities.

I'm just of the opinion that we shouldn't continue to sell them short with the whole football thing. They're going to have an impact. I hope it's later than sooner..

[ASUPATCH]

Their admissions are a joke..

Interesting story, I guess? Doesn't take away from the fact that they're graduating lots of students, have the professional schools for cash, and really nice facilities.

I'm just of the opinion that we shouldn't continue to sell them short with the whole football thing. They're going to have an impact. I hope it's later than sooner..

I dont disagree they will most certainly have an impact on our recruiting. I just cant stand then being called a good academic institution. Which professional schools are you refering too of theirs that are so great?Campell and Elon have law schools which UNCC doesnt. Sure they have a bunch of graduate progams. Doesnt mean its worth a crap.

[RankinApp]

I just cant stand then being called a good academic institution.

Now, now. I didn't go *that* far.

I think their architecture and engineering schools are pretty decent.

[Gonzo]

Their admissions are a joke..

Interesting story, I guess? Doesn't take away from the fact that they're graduating lots of students, have the professional schools for cash, and really nice facilities.

I'm just of the opinion that we shouldn't continue to sell them short with the whole football thing. They're going to have an impact. I hope it's later than sooner..

I dont disagree they will most certainly have an impact on our recruiting. I just cant stand then being called a good academic institution. Which professional schools are you refering too of theirs that are so great?Campell and Elon have law schools which UNCC doesnt. Sure they have a bunch of graduate progams. Doesnt mean its worth a crap.

They're remotely affiliated with the for-profit/private law school Charlotte Law. CL is bar none (no pun intended) the worst law school in the state. The perception among professionals is that CL is a scam. It is quite literally the "University of Phoenix" of law schools. You pay 37k a year and end up with a degree that absolutely no one in the legal profession respects. Scary thought to get out of school with 125k in debt and no hope of getting a job unless you had one lined up through a friend or relative beforehand.

Agreed though that UNCC most certainly has the worst admission standards in the UNC System. It all stems from low demand (no one wants to sacrifice their college experience if they don't have to) and their policy to EXPAND EXPAMD EXPAND!

Their graduate level programs are a lot more legit since they cater to a lot of working adults in Charlotte, but an undergraduate degree from UNC Charlotte isn't worth the paper its printed on.

[ASUPATCH]

I just cant stand then being called a good academic institution.

Now, now. I didn't go *that* far.

I think their architecture and engineering schools are pretty decent.

If they are good.......which I have never heard them being so. They are most likely getting undergrads from good academic institutions that had their real college experience (undergrad) at a real institution of learning. Hence the money wont be rolling in from those students as they already enjoyed the real college experience at a real college in a real college town and atmosphere and that where most would send their money IMO.

[hapapp]

The fact that so many of our fans rip UNCC at every turn tells me that they are really anxious about Charlotte stealing alot of our thunder and competing for the same athletes. I'm no fan of the 49ers and really don't have much knowledge about the school but I find it a bit unseemly that some persist in trashing them at every turn. Seems jealousy at UNCC's good fortunes is behind some of the vitriol.

FWIW, they look to be on the level of ECU.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/n ... na-sat.htm

[ImfromClayton]

Thanks for the respect guys. Looking forward to playing you all one day. Hope we can build a culture of winning the way you guys have.

[HighFlying49er]

It is amazing what one can learn about his alma mater from an opposing fan base message board. Apparently, as an alum of Charlotte, I didn't even have to take the SAT, as all I needed for admissions was a pulse, and my engineering degree isn't worth the paper it is written on. I suppose I will head into work tomorrow and inform my boss that I am resigning, since he never actually hired an engineer with a real degree.

Honestly though, I came on this board to support my school without intent to flame. I respect App - both of my parents graduated from ASU (Dad played football '70-'73), and I was the only sibling not to attend. You have a beautiful school in a beautiful location with a nice small college atmosphere and good football. It was obviously the perfect fit for the fans on this board, but it's not for everyone. I chose to attend a university with strong academics in my chosen profession. I applied and was accepted to NC State and UNCC, and chose Charlotte for it's smaller/ more intimate campus feel. While I was a student, we received higher ABET accreditation ratings for engineering schools than NC State. Our architecture school is one of the most highly rated in the southeast. Our business school is also highly regarded and serves one of the nations strongest financial centers.

I appreciate that some of the App fans on this board seem to regularly post with common sense rather than bias hyperbole. However, others appear highly threatened by Charlotte and seem to be making grossly false statements in an attempt to justify why Charlotte will never amount to anything on the playing field or classroom. I just ask that we accept each other's universities for what they are - good schools seeking to serve the needs and interests of different segments of the population.

[Saint3333]

I would ask UNCC to support App into gaining admission into CUSA even though we aren't located 20 miles from a large city. It would beneifit both programs, especially now with ECU leaving.

But this is a pipe dream as UNCC will strive to hold App down, tell Judy Rose thanks for nothing.

[ASUPATCH]

The fact that so many of our fans rip UNCC at every turn tells me that they are really anxious about Charlotte stealing alot of our thunder and competing for the same athletes. I'm no fan of the 49ers and really don't have much knowledge about the school but I find it a bit unseemly that some persist in trashing them at every turn. Seems jealousy at UNCC's good fortunes is behind some of the vitriol.

FWIW, they look to be on the level of ECU.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/n ... na-sat.htm

Ooooooooo ezu.........there someone to be proud of being conpared to academically. You know who else they compare to? Western!!!!!!!!!!

For recruiting and football purposes they are a threat eventually. Until they tighten their admission standards I will never respect them as an institution of higher Learning

[hapapp]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

In reality folks are focusing on Charlotte's lower SAT scores as a veiled effort to discredit whatever they happen to do on the football field. I never thought that most App fans were elitists.

[ASUPATCH]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

In reality folks are focusing on Charlotte's lower SAT scores as a veiled effort to discredit whatever they happen to do on the football field. I never thought that most App fans were elitists.

We are within 10-20 points of State , Wilmington and Asheville. No matter how much I hate the tar holes yes they can look down on us academically. UNC is in a league of its own. State App Wilmington Asheville are the next tier. Then there is everyone else.

[HeffnerIV]

I would ask UNCC to support App into gaining admission into CUSA even though we aren't located 20 miles from a large city. It would beneifit both programs, especially now with ECU leaving.

But this is a pipe dream as UNCC will strive to hold App down, tell Judy Rose thanks for nothing.

Honestly, I think this is really where disdain for Charlotte is derived. No ever mentioned them on this board until they were given ConfUSA Membership because if their location, then blocked our entry.

[ASUMountaineer]

The fact that so many of our fans rip UNCC at every turn tells me that they are really anxious about Charlotte stealing alot of our thunder and competing for the same athletes. I'm no fan of the 49ers and really don't have much knowledge about the school but I find it a bit unseemly that some persist in trashing them at every turn. Seems jealousy at UNCC's good fortunes is behind some of the vitriol.

FWIW, they look to be on the level of ECU.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/n ... na-sat.htm

I don't engage in ripping UNCC at every turn. But, living in Charlotte, I have met several alums and some of them talk more trash about ASU than what you see App fans doing on this board.

The last time I was on UNCC's campus was when ASU played them in basketball. I was there with my wife and their fans were almost as bad as GSU fans (at least GSU is a rival). We were taunted, yelled and cursed at, and not just in the stands (not in the student section), but on our way to the car in the parking deck. Even had a group gather around my Jeep on the way out yelling about how badly ASU sucks.

I don't necessarily have anything against UNCC as an institution, but because of my personal experiences with their fans, I will pull for them to lose every game they play.

[asumike83]

I was upset as anybody when UNCC got the C-USA invite because it put the writing on the wall for us. I think that we are much more prepared for C-USA competition and lost out because of market size. It is what it is though. If we were located where they are located, we'd have leveraged TV market as well.

Judy Rose's general attitude towards us is disappointing, but it's not like we were their biggest cheerleaders when they were trying to get their football program into the SoCon. Completely different circumstances since it was a stepping stone attempt but regardless, we sure didn't go out of our way to do them any favors. Not only that, but there were a lot of App fans mocking them when they couldn't get football-only invites to the SoCon or Big South. Those same folks now seem so offended that their fans are holding the C-USA invite over our head.

I think we should just focus on us. Aside from the 2013 recruiting thread, this UNCC thread has more posts and views than any other one on this board over the last week or so. We are doing great work on the recruiting trail ourselves and an FBS invite would only improve it further. Continue to win football games and down the road when both programs are FBS, this can be settled on the field.

All the time spent criticizing them and the fact that they "got our invite" just makes us look petty and bitter. We've got too many good things going on at Appalachian to be crying over spilled milk. We have great tradition and a very bright future, why worry about what is happening in Charlotte?