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Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:09 pm

We are going to agree to disagree on this one. He has a great family life by all accounts and moving to a P5 program isn’t going to change that relationship if Satt wishes to try his hand at the P5 level even if the money was the same.

He will have many great options each offseason, one being staying at a job he loves in the place he’ll always call home.

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Unread post by HeffnerIV » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:54 pm

I honestly don’t think he’d ever leave for money. I think, if he leaves, it’s for a situation that allows him the resources and access to the type of talent that can win him a national championship. Yes, the money would be an incredible perk and consideration, but if you’re the type of guy we all think Satt is, your lifestyle won’t change much compared to what it is now. For anyone who makes 600k+, their lifestyle won’t change much with 3M unless they’re into private jets, mansions and yachts. Even two of those three are a stretch at that pay grade.

If he leaves his alma mater, it’ll be for the ideal situation, not money. Remember, he’s already left once and come home.

With all that said, I don’t know squat.

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Unread post by Rick83 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am

I've always felt like Satt wouldn't leave until he had reached his goal of getting us into a NY6 bowl, unless a truly great opportunity was presented to him. I just don't see the NC State job as being a truly great opportunity, but that's just my perception. NC State would be just another stepping stone that pays more sure, but the resulting frustrations and family upheaval may not be worth it.

Money doesn't buy happiness, in fact most of the families I've been around that have true wealth are some of the most unhappiest and in at least one case, the son actually ended up dead because too much of that wealth went up his nose. I always felt like the wealth-generating father was not connected enough with the son because he was too preoccupied with growing his business and accumulating wealth.

At any rate, I don't know what motivates Satt, but I'm appreciative of everything he's done for our football program, and I will remain one of his fans regardless of where he ends up.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:11 am

Honestly who would want the NCSrate job shouldnit come open? Someone will take it but it may be short lived. With the DY set to retire in 2019, a new AD may not want to keep the inherited coach.

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Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:43 am

Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am
I've always felt like Satt wouldn't leave until he had reached his goal of getting us into a NY6 bowl, unless a truly great opportunity was presented to him. I just don't see the NC State job as being a truly great opportunity, but that's just my perception. NC State would be just another stepping stone that pays more sure, but the resulting frustrations and family upheaval may not be worth it.

Money doesn't buy happiness, in fact most of the families I've been around that have true wealth are some of the most unhappiest and in at least one case, the son actually ended up dead because too much of that wealth went up his nose. I always felt like the wealth-generating father was not connected enough with the son because he was too preoccupied with growing his business and accumulating wealth.

At any rate, I don't know what motivates Satt, but I'm appreciative of everything he's done for our football program, and I will remain one of his fans regardless of where he ends up.
I think we are far from a NY6 game. So many things go into getting there, most being out of his control. A one loss AAC would probably get it over an undefeated Sun Belt team. Next two years schedules probably aren't strong enough to get us there, and we need the Sun Belt to look better outside of the top 3 teams. Personally, I'd never stick around for that to happen. The chances of us going undefeated alone are tough.
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/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:43 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am
I've always felt like Satt wouldn't leave until he had reached his goal of getting us into a NY6 bowl, unless a truly great opportunity was presented to him. I just don't see the NC State job as being a truly great opportunity, but that's just my perception. NC State would be just another stepping stone that pays more sure, but the resulting frustrations and family upheaval may not be worth it.

Money doesn't buy happiness, in fact most of the families I've been around that have true wealth are some of the most unhappiest and in at least one case, the son actually ended up dead because too much of that wealth went up his nose. I always felt like the wealth-generating father was not connected enough with the son because he was too preoccupied with growing his business and accumulating wealth.

At any rate, I don't know what motivates Satt, but I'm appreciative of everything he's done for our football program, and I will remain one of his fans regardless of where he ends up.
I think we are far from a NY6 game. So many things go into getting there, most being out of his control. A one loss AAC would probably get it over an undefeated Sun Belt team. Next two years schedules probably aren't strong enough to get us there, and we need the Sun Belt to look better outside of the top 3 teams. Personally, I'd never stick around for that to happen. The chances of us going undefeated alone are tough.
I agree wer'e a long way from a NY6 bowl currently but I've heard Satt mention it as a goal several times and just knowing his life-long association at App, it'd be a crowning achievement before he left. I just don't see the NC State job as a good move for him, it'd have to be something better, but just my opinion.

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Unread post by JGthatsme86 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:08 am

If Tennessee is looking for another coach that is a great recruiter but can't quite ever win the big games...then Doeren is their man!

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Unread post by APPARJ » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:09 am

HeffnerIV wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:54 pm
I honestly don’t think he’d ever leave for money. I think, if he leaves, it’s for a situation that allows him the resources and access to the type of talent that can win him a national championship. Yes, the money would be an incredible perk and consideration, but if you’re the type of guy we all think Satt is, your lifestyle won’t change much compared to what it is now. For anyone who makes 600k+, their lifestyle won’t change much with 3M unless they’re into private jets, mansions and yachts. Even two of those three are a stretch at that pay grade.

If he leaves his alma mater, it’ll be for the ideal situation, not money. Remember, he’s already left once and come home.

With all that said, I don’t know squat.
Last year he would have left for a program that has never and will never sniff a national championship. He would've been completely justified in doing it too. There's a huge difference between $600K and $3M and it doesn't include jets or yachts.
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Re: Satterfield Interviews

Unread post by MtnMan09 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:21 am

Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:02 am
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:43 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am
I've always felt like Satt wouldn't leave until he had reached his goal of getting us into a NY6 bowl, unless a truly great opportunity was presented to him. I just don't see the NC State job as being a truly great opportunity, but that's just my perception. NC State would be just another stepping stone that pays more sure, but the resulting frustrations and family upheaval may not be worth it.

Money doesn't buy happiness, in fact most of the families I've been around that have true wealth are some of the most unhappiest and in at least one case, the son actually ended up dead because too much of that wealth went up his nose. I always felt like the wealth-generating father was not connected enough with the son because he was too preoccupied with growing his business and accumulating wealth.

At any rate, I don't know what motivates Satt, but I'm appreciative of everything he's done for our football program, and I will remain one of his fans regardless of where he ends up.
I think we are far from a NY6 game. So many things go into getting there, most being out of his control. A one loss AAC would probably get it over an undefeated Sun Belt team. Next two years schedules probably aren't strong enough to get us there, and we need the Sun Belt to look better outside of the top 3 teams. Personally, I'd never stick around for that to happen. The chances of us going undefeated alone are tough.
I agree wer'e a long way from a NY6 bowl currently but I've heard Satt mention it as a goal several times and just knowing his life-long association at App, it'd be a crowning achievement before he left. I just don't see the NC State job as a good move for him, it'd have to be something better, but just my opinion.
You do realize that at the midway point of this season NC State was a darkhorse for the CFP? If they win the ACC with one loss (even thought that loss wouldve been to USC) they are in. How is that not a good job for any coach not already in a P5 conference? "Something better?" So hes not leaving unless Saban retires? I think people really have their head in the sand about what Satt would, or should, move on for.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:31 am

SEC or ACC , he has to accept if offered and that likelihood grows ,although next season would seem to be a rebuilding year for us. I hope he sticks around but it seems that its a matter of when, not if.

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Unread post by fjblair » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:37 am

appchicago wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:37 am
All of the Florida schools that aren't UF or FSU seem like stepping stones these days. Which isn't bad for a coach, I guess, but Satt doesn't strike me as someone who has any interest in hanging out in Tampa or Orlando for two years, hoping for a better gig to come calling. At least not at this point in his life and career.

I'd be far more worried about State, Chapel Hill, or another close-by school. I thought UT may have bitten, but it sounds like they're pushing for Chad Morris or Kevin Steele at the moment. That job seems like a trainwreck right now, though, especially if their search process is any indication.

(eta: I didn't read diehardapp18's post before I commented, but I guess great minds think alike.)
Tennessee would never consider Satterfield and he is not ready for that stage yet.

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Unread post by HeffnerIV » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:44 am

APPARJ wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:09 am
HeffnerIV wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:54 pm
I honestly don’t think he’d ever leave for money. I think, if he leaves, it’s for a situation that allows him the resources and access to the type of talent that can win him a national championship. Yes, the money would be an incredible perk and consideration, but if you’re the type of guy we all think Satt is, your lifestyle won’t change much compared to what it is now. For anyone who makes 600k+, their lifestyle won’t change much with 3M unless they’re into private jets, mansions and yachts. Even two of those three are a stretch at that pay grade.

If he leaves his alma mater, it’ll be for the ideal situation, not money. Remember, he’s already left once and come home.

With all that said, I don’t know squat.
Last year he would have left for a program that has never and will never sniff a national championship. He would've been completely justified in doing it too. There's a huge difference between $600K and $3M and it doesn't include jets or yachts.
If it is true he would’ve accepted an offer from Cincinatti last year, then I stand corrected.

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Unread post by Rick83 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 am

MtnMan09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:21 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:02 am
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:43 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am
I've always felt like Satt wouldn't leave until he had reached his goal of getting us into a NY6 bowl, unless a truly great opportunity was presented to him. I just don't see the NC State job as being a truly great opportunity, but that's just my perception. NC State would be just another stepping stone that pays more sure, but the resulting frustrations and family upheaval may not be worth it.

Money doesn't buy happiness, in fact most of the families I've been around that have true wealth are some of the most unhappiest and in at least one case, the son actually ended up dead because too much of that wealth went up his nose. I always felt like the wealth-generating father was not connected enough with the son because he was too preoccupied with growing his business and accumulating wealth.

At any rate, I don't know what motivates Satt, but I'm appreciative of everything he's done for our football program, and I will remain one of his fans regardless of where he ends up.
I think we are far from a NY6 game. So many things go into getting there, most being out of his control. A one loss AAC would probably get it over an undefeated Sun Belt team. Next two years schedules probably aren't strong enough to get us there, and we need the Sun Belt to look better outside of the top 3 teams. Personally, I'd never stick around for that to happen. The chances of us going undefeated alone are tough.
I agree wer'e a long way from a NY6 bowl currently but I've heard Satt mention it as a goal several times and just knowing his life-long association at App, it'd be a crowning achievement before he left. I just don't see the NC State job as a good move for him, it'd have to be something better, but just my opinion.
You do realize that at the midway point of this season NC State was a darkhorse for the CFP? If they win the ACC with one loss (even thought that loss wouldve been to USC) they are in. How is that not a good job for any coach not already in a P5 conference? "Something better?" So hes not leaving unless Saban retires? I think people really have their head in the sand about what Satt would, or should, move on for.
State lost worst to Wake than we did, also they are not even in the top 25 now. You can say what you did about almost any P5 school...IF they win their games they're in the CFP...of course but State didn't and don't ever. This year was State's best in what 20+ years, or is it 25+ years? If State was such a great place to coach why is Doeren even looking at TN? Again, just my perception and what I know and hear about their fan base and the fact that they're more of a basketball school being part of the old "big 4 ACC NC" schools. Just my lowly opinion. BTW, there are lots of great teams to coach at that are between NC State and Alabama. I never, and I don't recall any MMB poster saying or implying that Satt should hold out for Alabama. Satt may love the challenge of coaching in Raleigh and the extra money in his bank account, and if he goes there I will remain a fan of his until he happens to play App, at which time I'll be pulling against him.

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Unread post by MtnMan09 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:53 am

Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 am
MtnMan09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:21 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:02 am
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:43 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am
I've always felt like Satt wouldn't leave until he had reached his goal of getting us into a NY6 bowl, unless a truly great opportunity was presented to him. I just don't see the NC State job as being a truly great opportunity, but that's just my perception. NC State would be just another stepping stone that pays more sure, but the resulting frustrations and family upheaval may not be worth it.

Money doesn't buy happiness, in fact most of the families I've been around that have true wealth are some of the most unhappiest and in at least one case, the son actually ended up dead because too much of that wealth went up his nose. I always felt like the wealth-generating father was not connected enough with the son because he was too preoccupied with growing his business and accumulating wealth.

At any rate, I don't know what motivates Satt, but I'm appreciative of everything he's done for our football program, and I will remain one of his fans regardless of where he ends up.
I think we are far from a NY6 game. So many things go into getting there, most being out of his control. A one loss AAC would probably get it over an undefeated Sun Belt team. Next two years schedules probably aren't strong enough to get us there, and we need the Sun Belt to look better outside of the top 3 teams. Personally, I'd never stick around for that to happen. The chances of us going undefeated alone are tough.
I agree wer'e a long way from a NY6 bowl currently but I've heard Satt mention it as a goal several times and just knowing his life-long association at App, it'd be a crowning achievement before he left. I just don't see the NC State job as a good move for him, it'd have to be something better, but just my opinion.
You do realize that at the midway point of this season NC State was a darkhorse for the CFP? If they win the ACC with one loss (even thought that loss wouldve been to USC) they are in. How is that not a good job for any coach not already in a P5 conference? "Something better?" So hes not leaving unless Saban retires? I think people really have their head in the sand about what Satt would, or should, move on for.
State lost worst to Wake than we did, also they are not even in the top 25 now. You can say what you did about almost any P5 school...IF they win their games they're in the CFP...of course but State didn't and don't ever. This year was State's best in what 20+ years, or is it 25+ years? If State was such a great place to coach why is Doeren even looking at TN? Again, just my perception and what I know and hear about their fan base and the fact that they're more of a basketball school being part of the old "big 4 ACC NC" schools. Just my lowly opinion. BTW, there are lots of great teams to coach at that are between NC State and Alabama. I never, and I don't recall any MMB poster saying or implying that Satt should hold out for Alabama. Satt may love the challenge of coaching in Raleigh and the extra money in his bank account, and if he goes there I will remain a fan of his until he happens to play App, at which time I'll be pulling against him.
If Doeren goes its because of money, nothing else (which people seem to think doesn't motivate normal people to make career choices around here). Beyond Satt's potential salary- States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App as much as I hate to say that. Im not a state fan but they are not a bball school in the since UNC is. They put them in at the Carter. State is a "better job" for someone like Satt. This isn't a Cincy, Vandy, Kansas, etc. Its an ACC school that regularly competes with Clemson and FSU. If you don't think that appeals to someone who wants to coach big time CFB then you really do think he will stay in Boone forever and no one will convince you otherwise.

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Unread post by fjblair » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:08 pm

I agree with you MtnMan09. Any ACC school is going to at least double his salary, improve his resume and he will be gone. That's just how it works. I would imagine an offer as an OC with a name brand caliber program would yield the same results.

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Unread post by Rick83 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:20 pm

MtnMan09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:53 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 am
MtnMan09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:21 am
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:02 am
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:43 am


I think we are far from a NY6 game. So many things go into getting there, most being out of his control. A one loss AAC would probably get it over an undefeated Sun Belt team. Next two years schedules probably aren't strong enough to get us there, and we need the Sun Belt to look better outside of the top 3 teams. Personally, I'd never stick around for that to happen. The chances of us going undefeated alone are tough.
I agree wer'e a long way from a NY6 bowl currently but I've heard Satt mention it as a goal several times and just knowing his life-long association at App, it'd be a crowning achievement before he left. I just don't see the NC State job as a good move for him, it'd have to be something better, but just my opinion.
You do realize that at the midway point of this season NC State was a darkhorse for the CFP? If they win the ACC with one loss (even thought that loss wouldve been to USC) they are in. How is that not a good job for any coach not already in a P5 conference? "Something better?" So hes not leaving unless Saban retires? I think people really have their head in the sand about what Satt would, or should, move on for.
State lost worst to Wake than we did, also they are not even in the top 25 now. You can say what you did about almost any P5 school...IF they win their games they're in the CFP...of course but State didn't and don't ever. This year was State's best in what 20+ years, or is it 25+ years? If State was such a great place to coach why is Doeren even looking at TN? Again, just my perception and what I know and hear about their fan base and the fact that they're more of a basketball school being part of the old "big 4 ACC NC" schools. Just my lowly opinion. BTW, there are lots of great teams to coach at that are between NC State and Alabama. I never, and I don't recall any MMB poster saying or implying that Satt should hold out for Alabama. Satt may love the challenge of coaching in Raleigh and the extra money in his bank account, and if he goes there I will remain a fan of his until he happens to play App, at which time I'll be pulling against him.
If Doeren goes its because of money, nothing else (which people seem to think doesn't motivate normal people to make career choices around here). Beyond Satt's potential salary- States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App as much as I hate to say that. Im not a state fan but they are not a bball school in the since UNC is. They put them in at the Carter. State is a "better job" for someone like Satt. This isn't a Cincy, Vandy, Kansas, etc. Its an ACC school that regularly competes with Clemson and FSU. If you don't think that appeals to someone who wants to coach big time CFB then you really do think he will stay in Boone forever and no one will convince you otherwise.
You're just looking for a fight as you're imagining things I've said. For example, where did I say or imply that the following weren't true: "States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App" or this " bball school in the since UNC is" and I do not have illusions that "he will stay in Boone forever." I merely said that Satt can do better than the NC State job and I hope he holds out for that. I grew up in NC and one of my brothers graduated from State and was there during there first basketball national championship. They've since won a 2nd national championship in basketball
but you're correct that they are not on the level of basketball as UNC which is not what I said or implied. I don't agree with your apparently high opinion of their football program, I'd rather see Satt go to a better program with a higher likelihood of success. A bad career move, especially for money, can set you back and derail your career. Besides Doeren's potential opportunity at TN, what other NC State coaches have spring boarded from Raleigh into great positions? Perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.

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Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:36 pm

Rumor mill reporting Doren is accepting the UT dumpster fire . . .

If Satterfield goes to NC State could Eliot come to Boone?
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Unread post by HighPointApp » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:49 pm

Doeren is staying @ NCSU per WRAL out of Raleigh
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Unread post by Rick83 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:49 pm

It's amazing that Satt accomplished this during our transition to FBS when most schools struggle:

FBS - MOST WINS LAST 43 GAMES
1. Clemson 40-3
2. Alabama 39-4
3. Ohio State 38-5
4. Wisconsin 36-7
5. Oklahoma 35-8
T6. APP STATE 34-9
T6. Stanford 34-9

Also, the seniors finishing this year are the last of the FCS players, is that correct?

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:11 pm

LOL, Tennessee has out-Stated State. This has become the all time cluster of coaching searches.

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