Time management

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:13 am

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To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
...and we WERE playing in a converted baseball stadium. I thought Boggs was clever. In no way was that taunting or unsportsmanlike to the Panthers. Terrible call.
While we are on the subject of sucky refereeing, how does 30 yards in penalties, one a live ball penalty, result in first and 10 for the offending team?
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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:24 am

AppinVA wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:13 am
ASU3432Mi wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:59 am
biggie wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:50 pm
To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
...and we WERE playing in a converted baseball stadium. I thought Boggs was clever. In no way was that taunting or unsportsmanlike to the Panthers. Terrible call.
While we are on the subject of sucky refereeing, how does 30 yards in penalties, one a live ball penalty, result in first and 10 for the offending team?
I thought that was odd as well.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by fjblair » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:51 am

AppinVA wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:13 am
ASU3432Mi wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:59 am
biggie wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:50 pm
To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
...and we WERE playing in a converted baseball stadium. I thought Boggs was clever. In no way was that taunting or unsportsmanlike to the Panthers. Terrible call.
While we are on the subject of sucky refereeing, how does 30 yards in penalties, one a live ball penalty, result in first and 10 for the offending team?
I thought it was just me, I didn't understand that call either.

The penalty for the bat swing was an atrocious call.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:16 am

I have known some refs over the years and I truly believe that was a reputation call. I don't think it would have been called on every team.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:30 am

All teams practice different scenarios like 2 minutes, one minute, at certain places on the field at certain times. In the real game sometimes certain play calls don’t work, it’s chaotic and decisions have to be made quickly (and I’m sure guys in the booth are providing input). No excuses for Satt but half full guy here says- we won. If we take the next 2 we get to 9 wins. Not bad and for a three year stretch very impressive.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:36 am

bcoach wrote:
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I have known some refs over the years and I truly believe that was a reputation call. I don't think it would have been called on every team.
If that's the case, those refs need to stick to Friday nights. It was a Harry High School move on the part of the ref.
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Re: Time management

Unread post by Rick83 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:37 am

I was wondering what the criticism was going to be for our big win yesterday, knew it would be something...
As for the home run swing penalty...give me a feakin' break. That was totally ridiculous and the league or the NCAA needs to re-visit the rules on allowing the players to celebrate a big play. In my opinion, let them celebrate as long as it doesn't delay the game or taunt the opposing players.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:42 am

AppinVA wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:36 am
bcoach wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:16 am
I have known some refs over the years and I truly believe that was a reputation call. I don't think it would have been called on every team.
If that's the case, those refs need to stick to Friday nights. It was a Harry High School move on the part of the ref.
I don't disagree but I still feel that is what it was and there is a way to combat that.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:48 am

I have a hard time understanding the difference between the crude “For The Cash” gesture we used legally a few years ago (which, by the way, I was never a fan of) and the Chipper Jones swing yesterday. Have the rules changed?

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Re: Time management

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:54 am

The only defense I have heard so far that holds water is that he was afraid to pass with his Senior QB. If that is the case then fine, run the ball. But if you are going to run the ball, don't run the play clock down to 10 seconds while your WB is waiting for a play call, do it with some sense of urgency. Satt does alot of things right, but he struggles horribly in the clock management department time after time. Every coach has a weakness, it is clearly his.
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Re: Time management

Unread post by App91 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:35 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
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it’s negative to ask questions?
On this board it its. The sunshine squad wont allow it.
As President of the Sunshine Squad I disavow the above statement from my buddy 91 - One item to remember is that I see the glass 3/4 full and 91 sees it as 9/10 empty - :D
Anyway, I think this is a legitimate question - time management - Coach Satterfield is too good a coach to not "to have a clue what he is doing in time management" - I do agree it is not his strongest area - My thought is he just hasn't quite decided on a defined strategy, now this could be because of several factors, such as injuries to RB/WR in a particular game, etc., --- as for yesterday, there did seem to be some confusion as how to approach the situation - As some have mentioned, the one thing NOT to let happen is a turnover and that was accomplished, however I do agree that 20-30 seconds were lost because of (I don't know why) - Anyway, no mistake was made that could have cost the game and the 2nd half was a dominating performance!!! :!:
9/10? you give me waaaay to much credit!! :lol:

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Re: Time management

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:45 am

I have a good friend who is a mutual Panthers fan. We text useless stuff during games. He is on BOD of the half empty Corp. I don’t know how many games have been “over” in the first quarter when the team starts slowly. Lol

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Re: Time management

Unread post by GoBoone » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:43 pm

I don't think a home run swing is much different than the "feed me" thing.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by proasu89 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:07 pm

GoBoone wrote:
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I don't think a home run swing is much different than the "feed me" thing.
Was thinking the same thing.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by scatman77 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:03 pm

NewApp wrote:
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To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
No room for theatrics when you're trying to win a game. No reason to fire the opposition up just to show your butt on the field. It may have been a petty call, but we deserved it. It could have made a difference in the call.
Sorry but I'll disagree. He was away from the play, he made a great play, it was over. It wasn't directed at any one player and wasn't a taunt at anyone. Did he violate the letter of the rule? Probably. Was the penalty deserved? Absolutely not! Since when is it against the rules to have fun while playing a game?

I get the show-boating needs to be under control but Boggs was just having fun after a good play. If he'd have stood over the guy and did then yes the penalty was deserved.
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Re: Time management

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:09 pm

The refs (all refs-all games) are terribly inconsistent with these calls - wasn't it the ULM guy who spiked the ball in the endzone on the winning catch?
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Re: Time management

Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:43 pm

The clock management at the end of the first half was indefensible. It's one of Satt's blind spots.

Also, look what I saw after Howard's INT that got no flag.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by Goapps15 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:24 pm

Agreed with T-Dog. Every coach has flaws. This is Scott's over his tenure.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:27 pm

I thought clock management was a problem on several occasions last year. I don't recall a time when I've really felt it was a problem this year. Our clock management late against Wake, for example, was excellent.

Didn't really think yesterday was a clock management issue, but I guess once you get a reputation, people look for it.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:25 am

EastHallApp wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:27 pm
I thought clock management was a problem on several occasions last year. I don't recall a time when I've really felt it was a problem this year. Our clock management late against Wake, for example, was excellent.

Didn't really think yesterday was a clock management issue, but I guess once you get a reputation, people look for it.
Yes - this was what I was trying to get at in an earlier post - it seemed more like it was an uncertain strategy at that point in the game more so than a total clock management issue ---
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