J "The Onion" M

[bcoach]

shouda, wouda, coulda
I have never seen anything like this in my life. This man has done more, for more kids, than you can even imagine and you just can't let go. Do you have any idea how many programs would love to have his record? You wanted him gone and he is. It is over. What if, what if. Well what if you were smarter. You could have gone to Harvard and not have to live through the pain of having Jerry Moore for a coach.

[Kgfish]

Just glad the Winston-Salem crowd wasn't successful in ousting JM, too. We might be short three national championships.

With different leadership ASU may have won those and possibly several more.

We know what we got, we don't know what we would have gotten and how many Mike Workings we might have had to have gone through. I'll take what we had.

Can play on both sides of the street. Could just as easily have been a Nick Saben or two in there too. People tend to forget JM's first 15 years were not exactly spectacular. 3 conf championships and a 6-10 playoff record might be considered really good but he did inherit a championship program. Sparky Woods won 2 conf championships and was 2 - 2 in the playoffs in 5 years after picking up the pieces of the Working disaster.

so why was sparky fired??? oh thats right...he left for greener pastures...you bring in hungry coaches and youll have hungry coach turnover. im not saying lets hire an old man but lets be realistic...if, as you say, with another crew we could have won those championships and maybe even more. i doubt it...was it london who left richmond for uva after a successful run? you think had we won one or three championships, another big school wouldnt have taken our staff away leaving our players wondering about new coaching staff and schemes??? continuity trumps upheaval every day of the week.

I do not understand the issue with bringing in young, aggressive coaches, seeing them being successful and moving on. It only makes the program more attractive for the next batch of candidates. I like a new guy coming in every 5-7 years. It breathes fresh air into the program and brings in new ideas and perspectives. Things don't get stale and boreing. Have to get out of your comfort zone and experience new things once in a while.

[Kgfish]

shouda, wouda, coulda
I have never seen anything like this in my life. This man has done more, for more kids, than you can even imagine and you just can't let go. Do you have any idea how many programs would love to have his record? You wanted him gone and he is. It is over. What if, what if. Well what if you were smarter. You could have gone to Harvard and not have to live through the pain of having Jerry Moore for a coach.

You talking to me or Norton?

[vegattk]

I do not understand the issue with bringing in young, aggressive coaches, seeing them being successful and moving on. It only makes the program more attractive for the next batch of candidates. I like a new guy coming in every 5-7 years. It breathes fresh air into the program and brings in new ideas and perspectives. Things don't get stale and boreing. Have to get out of your comfort zone and experience new things once in a while.

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I'd rather not have a coach (or a series of coaches) using App as a stepping stool...

I believe statistics will show that the longevity of a coach can be directly tied to the success at the school...

[PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY]

so why was sparky fired??? oh thats right...he left for greener pastures...you bring in hungry coaches and youll have hungry coach turnover. im not saying lets hire an old man but lets be realistic...if, as you say, with another crew we could have won those championships and maybe even more. i doubt it...was it london who left richmond for uva after a successful run? you think had we won one or three championships, another big school wouldnt have taken our staff away leaving our players wondering about new coaching staff and schemes??? continuity trumps upheaval every day of the week.[/quote]

I do not understand the issue with bringing in young, aggressive coaches, seeing them being successful and moving on. It only makes the program more attractive for the next batch of candidates. I like a new guy coming in every 5-7 years. It breathes fresh air into the program and brings in new ideas and perspectives. Things don't get stale and boreing. Have to get out of your comfort zone and experience new things once in a while.[/quote]


I guess sabin and spurrier are next to go because they are aging out year wise according to you...hell, cant imagine why krzyzewski has been such dead weight at duke...dean at carolina and wooden at ucla...god almighty...just think what those schools coud have accomplished had they not had the old guys stagnating the water. i am so glad you were able to comnvince me of this new and possibly earth shattering approach to a successful program of basically any collegiate sport.

[bcoach]

shouda, wouda, coulda
I have never seen anything like this in my life. This man has done more, for more kids, than you can even imagine and you just can't let go. Do you have any idea how many programs would love to have his record? You wanted him gone and he is. It is over. What if, what if. Well what if you were smarter. You could have gone to Harvard and not have to live through the pain of having Jerry Moore for a coach.

You talking to me or Norton?

Both. Better yet ALL that can't let it go. The guy had a great record, he is gone, next up.

[Kgfish]

so why was sparky fired??? oh thats right...he left for greener pastures...you bring in hungry coaches and youll have hungry coach turnover. im not saying lets hire an old man but lets be realistic...if, as you say, with another crew we could have won those championships and maybe even more. i doubt it...was it london who left richmond for uva after a successful run? you think had we won one or three championships, another big school wouldnt have taken our staff away leaving our players wondering about new coaching staff and schemes??? continuity trumps upheaval every day of the week.

I do not understand the issue with bringing in young, aggressive coaches, seeing them being successful and moving on. It only makes the program more attractive for the next batch of candidates. I like a new guy coming in every 5-7 years. It breathes fresh air into the program and brings in new ideas and perspectives. Things don't get stale and boreing. Have to get out of your comfort zone and experience new things once in a while.[/quote]

I guess sabin and spurrier are next to go because they are aging out year wise according to you...hell, cant imagine why krzyzewski has been such dead weight at duke...dean at carolina and wooden at ucla...god almighty...just think what those schools coud have accomplished had they not had the old guys stagnating the water. i am so glad you were able to comnvince me of this new and possibly earth shattering approach to a successful program of basically any collegiate sport.[/quote]

I love it when people go extreme with examples. How many of those Hall of Famers got their start at the schools they finished up at? I love ASU as much as anyone but the reality is every program below the BCS level is a stepping stone.

[Kgfish]

shouda, wouda, coulda
I have never seen anything like this in my life. This man has done more, for more kids, than you can even imagine and you just can't let go. Do you have any idea how many programs would love to have his record? You wanted him gone and he is. It is over. What if, what if. Well what if you were smarter. You could have gone to Harvard and not have to live through the pain of having Jerry Moore for a coach.

You talking to me or Norton?

Both. Better yet ALL that can't let it go. The guy had a great record, he is gone, next up.

Calm down. Do I need to start calling you the Mad Hatter? Have not seen where anyone implied JM did not do all those things. Do you think JM is the only coach to care about his players? I'm sure Western would like to have a third of ASU's record the past 20 years. I'd like to have more national champiobnships too. Guess we should all be grateful for all that he accomplished and not be so darn greedy. You be sure to tell Scott Satterfield he needs to be content with doing no better than Coach Moore did. I'm sure he will appreciate it.

The difference between some of you and some of us is ya'll put Jerry Moore on a pedestal, we don't. He did a great job doing what he was being PAID to do. If not he would have been shown the door a long time ago. I'm a Southern Boy and wouldn't have gone to Harvard, too many yankess. I agree with you. Time to move on.

[Rekdiver]

Of all the college programs, it is rare to see a coach have a long tenure and success like Jerry Moore. Probably 10% of the programs (football and basketball) have that luxury. So we got spoiled. To replicate that success is even more rare. So let's be realistic. Appalachian is a stepping stone for most coaches. We want to get the best we can for as long as we can afford them.........

Coach Moore was a great coach...even with his warts (so often exposed by a vocal few, some who seem overly bitter with an agenda) we were fortunate to have him and he was fortunate to find us. I celebrate his accomplishments and the positive contributions he made to the school and the community. He was far from perfect but then again who of us are? So he is gone we need to leave him alone. He has earned a place in our history that I think is unmatched and he does leave a positive legacy...unless he choses to do otherwise. His choice.

Now Scott is our coach. Young, full of energy, aggressive and he did learn alot from JM. Our support of Scott should be unconditional until proven otherwise. He has a hard job ahead of him but I think he can do it. I believe he can be one of the rare "men who follow the man" and are actually successful.

And for the Cobb haters the same holds true. He's made more good decisions than bad ones and gets villified for doing what had to be done with football. He made a mistake with men's basketball and absent a miracleous turnaround by the basketball team he should be prepared to make another decision.

Now on to FBS. Many like the playoffs but less than 16k ever show up for a home playoff game.......Seems to me the excitement is not there for playoffs like we think. I'll take a bowl game in New Orleans. I like Gallitorie's and ACME Oyster......
I see no reason why we can't be a successful FBS school. At least 50% of the sports announcers correctly pronounce Appalachian thanks to our success athte FCS level...........Soon 100% will and we will be back on television...and I'll be there on a Tuesday or Thursday night.

Merry Christmas!

[bcoach]

shouda, wouda, coulda
I have never seen anything like this in my life. This man has done more, for more kids, than you can even imagine and you just can't let go. Do you have any idea how many programs would love to have his record? You wanted him gone and he is. It is over. What if, what if. Well what if you were smarter. You could have gone to Harvard and not have to live through the pain of having Jerry Moore for a coach.

You talking to me or Norton?

Both. Better yet ALL that can't let it go. The guy had a great record, he is gone, next up.

Calm down. Do I need to start calling you the Mad Hatter? Have not seen where anyone implied JM did not do all those things. Do you think JM is the only coach to care about his players? I'm sure Western would like to have a third of ASU's record the past 20 years. I'd like to have more national champiobnships too. Guess we should all be grateful for all that he accomplished and not be so darn greedy. You be sure to tell Scott Satterfield he needs to be content with doing no better than Coach Moore did. I'm sure he will appreciate it.

The difference between some of you and some of us is ya'll put Jerry Moore on a pedestal, we don't. He did a great job doing what he was being PAID to do. If not he would have been shown the door a long time ago. I'm a Southern Boy and wouldn't have gone to Harvard, too many yankess. I agree with you. Time to move on.

I don't need to calm down as I am not excited. I am simply saying it is over. The dead horse has been beaten so badly that there is just no horse left. When we stretch to the point where we are saying that if JM were fired years ago we may have won even more, well the rubber band has just broken. It has gotten silly. I don't put JM on a pedestal. I have never put anyone on a pedestal and never will. I simply say that he was one of many great coaches and men. I will say this though. He did much more than he was PAID to do.
Next time I see Scott I will not be telling him what my expectations of him are. I never have in the past and see no need to start now. I think he has a boss that can take care of that.
We can agree on two things even if not for the same reasons.
1. Time to move on
2. No, you would not have gone to Harvard
Relax, just pulling your chain on that one.