Foghorn Leghorn

[boonetown1]

Something does have to give with our play calling though. Just scheme even a little. Coaches did not do their job on offense this week.

I'm not worried about kicking. I think by the time it's all said and done rubino Will be one of the best kickers we've had app. Also, I like lamb but Man he is not a good passer and if often indecisive or stares down his target.

All that said, if the coaches get their crap together I think we will be just fine.

Also fans on the home side were terrible. No one was loud or into the game.

[AppSt94]

GSU defense was well prepared and we didn't seem to make any adjustments. I've been hesitant to criticize QB play but Lamb doesn't seem to be developing any more arm strength. I hope he just had a bad day especially after the boot to the 'nads.

I'm not sure if you are blaming this performance on Lamb, but the OL, as a group played the worst game of the year. They were not successful at opening running lanes and constantly put us behind the chains. 3rd and long play calling is predictable and when you are trying to throw against 8 defenders in coverage your chances of success are slim.

Kind of hard for the OL to perform very well when the defense has got 8-9 guys in the box
It was just a hard game to watch

Akron did it too. I think that the 3-4 bothered them.

[bigdaddyg]

We won right?

[AppSt94]

GSU defense was well prepared and we didn't seem to make any adjustments. I've been hesitant to criticize QB play but Lamb doesn't seem to be developing any more arm strength. I hope he just had a bad day especially after the boot to the 'nads.

I'm not sure if you are blaming this performance on Lamb, but the OL, as a group played the worst game of the year. They were not successful at opening running lanes and constantly put us behind the chains. 3rd and long play calling is predictable and when you are trying to throw against 8 defenders in coverage your chances of success are slim.

Kind of hard for the OL to perform very well when the defense has got 8-9 guys in the box
It was just a hard game to watch

Agree, but do teams put 8 in the box because they don't respect Lamb or is it because our receiving Corp doesn't possess game changing ability? You know this part, so I'm not trying to belittle you, Defensive Coordinators have to make a decision on what you are going to defend against strengths. They weren't the first team to stack the box, they were just the first to "slow" it down.

[hotrod2001]

GSU defense was well prepared and we didn't seem to make any adjustments. I've been hesitant to criticize QB play but Lamb doesn't seem to be developing any more arm strength. I hope he just had a bad day especially after the boot to the 'nads.

On the contrary, after he got dropped business kinda picked up.

[bcoach]

GSU defense was well prepared and we didn't seem to make any adjustments. I've been hesitant to criticize QB play but Lamb doesn't seem to be developing any more arm strength. I hope he just had a bad day especially after the boot to the 'nads.

I'm not sure if you are blaming this performance on Lamb, but the OL, as a group played the worst game of the year. They were not successful at opening running lanes and constantly put us behind the chains. 3rd and long play calling is predictable and when you are trying to throw against 8 defenders in coverage your chances of success are slim.

Kind of hard for the OL to perform very well when the defense has got 8-9 guys in the box
It was just a hard game to watch

Agree, but do teams put 8 in the box because they don't respect Lamb or is it because our receiving Corp doesn't possess game changing ability? You know this part, so I'm not trying to belittle you, Defensive Coordinators have to make a decision on what you are going to defend against strengths. They weren't the first team to stack the box, they were just the first to "slow" it down.

Yes exactly. To your question of Qb or or receivers I believe the answer is yes.(:

[EastHallApp]

Calm down. Kicking sucked in 2014 too.

And it cost us two games, so we replaced the kicker and things were pretty stable the rest of the season.

Matics got injured in 2014. He was replaced out of necessity. Critcher missed 1 FG and 1 XP vs Liberty. He bounced back. No one is hanging that game over his head now.

We didn't play a close game after ULM.

Rubino will be fine.

My memory had totally failed me as I would have sworn Matics was the one who missed the kicks against Liberty, but you are correct.

Hope you're right about Rubino. I'm certainly not giving up on him long-term.

Nonetheless, citing a season where kicking cost us two games may not have the calming effect you seek.

[hotrod2001]

But I also agree the crowd and band were pretty ho hum. Hell, Yosef screwed up his flag at the beginning, the Cheerlearders ran "APP STA" across the endzone in TD celebrations because T and E didn't get with the program, and the GSU band, which was half the size of our band, sounded louder and was more enthusiastic than ours was by a mile. Heck the DJ couldn't even get the music right half the time.

And when did we stop with the whole "Olympic theme song" during kickoffs? That was always a good way to get people pumped, again just flat.

I'm not trying to gripe, but everyone always talks about the stands being dead, but those who are supposed to pump up the crowds are failing miserably at it.

[mountaineerman]

What did happen to the Olympic song? Watching clemsons entrance to game and while I hate everything orange it is incredible and we are lacking the things that build traditions .

[boonetown1]

But I also agree the crowd and band were pretty ho hum. Hell, Yosef screwed up his flag at the beginning, the Cheerlearders ran "APP STA" across the endzone in TD celebrations because T and E didn't get with the program, and the GSU band, which was half the size of our band, sounded louder and was more enthusiastic than ours was by a mile. Heck the DJ couldn't even get the music right half the time.

And when did we stop with the whole "Olympic theme song" during kickoffs? That was always a good way to get people pumped, again just flat.

I'm not trying to gripe, but everyone always talks about the stands being dead, but those who are supposed to pump up the crowds are failing miserably at it.

Agree, the game didn't bother me; I mean we won. I just constantly notice the poor orchestration of the game day atmosphere. I mean it is someone's JOB to plan for the big event (games) and it's almost like they have never even planned an event. I mean, I work in sales and marketing for a large company and when we have events, they're planned to the t (entrance/exits, music fading not cutting off, strategic planning for participants, customer engagement, etc). DG has done an excellent job, but he needs to hire staff who will put in the time for our games. After all it's a big revenue generator. Just my two cents on something that constantly lacks.

[ASU-FTW]

But I also agree the crowd and band were pretty ho hum. Hell, Yosef screwed up his flag at the beginning, the Cheerlearders ran "APP STA" across the endzone in TD celebrations because T and E didn't get with the program, and the GSU band, which was half the size of our band, sounded louder and was more enthusiastic than ours was by a mile. Heck the DJ couldn't even get the music right half the time.

And when did we stop with the whole "Olympic theme song" during kickoffs? That was always a good way to get people pumped, again just flat.

Definitely the most unenthusiastic crowd I've ever witnessed. I'm also convinced fans will leave no matter what the score, time, and weather.

As far as the band goes, GA State's sounding louder probably has more to do with the fact that they were playing to you, assuming you were on the West side. Our band being in the end zone tends to mute them a bit as the sound is directed towards the hill.

[AppOrange]

We have a good kicker, he needs time to fully develop, relax, he's doing fine, not great, but fine. Personally, I think he's going to be really good.

[hotrod2001]

But I also agree the crowd and band were pretty ho hum. Hell, Yosef screwed up his flag at the beginning, the Cheerlearders ran "APP STA" across the endzone in TD celebrations because T and E didn't get with the program, and the GSU band, which was half the size of our band, sounded louder and was more enthusiastic than ours was by a mile. Heck the DJ couldn't even get the music right half the time.

And when did we stop with the whole "Olympic theme song" during kickoffs? That was always a good way to get people pumped, again just flat.

I'm not trying to gripe, but everyone always talks about the stands being dead, but those who are supposed to pump up the crowds are failing miserably at it.

Agree, the game didn't bother me; I mean we won. I just constantly notice the poor orchestration of the game day atmosphere. I mean it is someone's JOB to plan for the big event (games) and it's almost like they have never even planned an event. I mean, I work in sales and marketing for a large company and when we have events, they're planned to the t (entrance/exits, music fading not cutting off, strategic planning for participants, customer engagement, etc). DG has done an excellent job, but he needs to hire staff who will put in the time for our games. After all it's a big revenue generator. Just my two cents on something that constantly lacks.

Same here, a part of the KBS lore is its atmosphere...one which is supposed to have a reputation of being a hard place to play if you're a visiting team. We did pick up a bit in the third but that enthusiasm should have been there from the beginning.
It's not like we are a brand new program or something...we've been doing this sort of thing for at least the last 15 years so there should be some sort of established protocol on how to do these things, or at least people who have been doing this in a perennial manner for several seasons.

- Yosef not wearing his hat should be considered "out of uniform" and shouldn't happen unless he's letting a fan wear it in a photo op. And should also lead the team out of the tunnel with his flag waving proudly.

- Band should play before every kickoff and every touchdown. Play something besides the same song you just did for the halftime show. DON'T RESPOND TO THE OPPONENT'S BAND BY PLAYING A RECORDING.

- Hype up the start with some sort of epic, and enduring video montage to build up the tunnel entrance. When you see RISE and the various promotional segments the school releases leading up to a game, it's obvious we have some talented people with a/v capabilities working for the program, so let's utilize

- Keep the canned DJ music to a minimum, and if you use it, at least key up to the chorus parts of the songs people actually know rather than cutting them off randomly in mid stream. Also don't play songs that are clearly identifiable by other teams (looking at you Hendrix)

- If you're going to do a promotion, put some effort into it. I remember Black Saturday games you were given a black shirt to ensure the stadium was blacked out. This game, from where I was sitting was the typical mix of black, white, yellow and gray clothing as you'd see any other App game. Surely there is a sponsor out there that would have flipped the bill for some shirts or pom poms to make it a little more special than the average home game.

Just a few things we can do which would improve the atmosphere. I'm not calling for like a house cleaning of the production department, but we ARE an FBS team...meaning we are playing at the top-tier of college sports and as a result of that, our overall product should reflect that status both on the field and in the stands. Kidd Brewer should be a proverbial "Lions Den" for opponents to enter and one of the scariest places in the G5 schools to have to play in.

[bcoach]

But I also agree the crowd and band were pretty ho hum. Hell, Yosef screwed up his flag at the beginning, the Cheerlearders ran "APP STA" across the endzone in TD celebrations because T and E didn't get with the program, and the GSU band, which was half the size of our band, sounded louder and was more enthusiastic than ours was by a mile. Heck the DJ couldn't even get the music right half the time.

And when did we stop with the whole "Olympic theme song" during kickoffs? That was always a good way to get people pumped, again just flat.

I'm not trying to gripe, but everyone always talks about the stands being dead, but those who are supposed to pump up the crowds are failing miserably at it.

Agree, the game didn't bother me; I mean we won. I just constantly notice the poor orchestration of the game day atmosphere. I mean it is someone's JOB to plan for the big event (games) and it's almost like they have never even planned an event. I mean, I work in sales and marketing for a large company and when we have events, they're planned to the t (entrance/exits, music fading not cutting off, strategic planning for participants, customer engagement, etc). DG has done an excellent job, but he needs to hire staff who will put in the time for our games. After all it's a big revenue generator. Just my two cents on something that constantly lacks.

Same here, a part of the KBS lore is its atmosphere...one which is supposed to have a reputation of being a hard place to play if you're a visiting team. We did pick up a bit in the third but that enthusiasm should have been there from the beginning.
It's not like we are a brand new program or something...we've been doing this sort of thing for at least the last 15 years so there should be some sort of established protocol on how to do these things, or at least people who have been doing this in a perennial manner for several seasons.

- Yosef not wearing his hat should be considered "out of uniform" and shouldn't happen unless he's letting a fan wear it in a photo op. And should also lead the team out of the tunnel with his flag waving proudly.

- Band should play before every kickoff and every touchdown. Play something besides the same song you just did for the halftime show. DON'T RESPOND TO THE OPPONENT'S BAND BY PLAYING A RECORDING.

- Hype up the start with some sort of epic, and enduring video montage to build up the tunnel entrance. When you see RISE and the various promotional segments the school releases leading up to a game, it's obvious we have some talented people with a/v capabilities working for the program, so let's utilize

- Keep the canned DJ music to a minimum, and if you use it, at least key up to the chorus parts of the songs people actually know rather than cutting them off randomly in mid stream. Also don't play songs that are clearly identifiable by other teams (looking at you Hendrix)

- If you're going to do a promotion, put some effort into it. I remember Black Saturday games you were given a black shirt to ensure the stadium was blacked out. This game, from where I was sitting was the typical mix of black, white, yellow and gray clothing as you'd see any other App game. Surely there is a sponsor out there that would have flipped the bill for some shirts or pom poms to make it a little more special than the average home game.

Just a few things we can do which would improve the atmosphere. I'm not calling for like a house cleaning of the production department, but we ARE an FBS team...meaning we are playing at the top-tier of college sports and as a result of that, our overall product should reflect that status both on the field and in the stands. Kidd Brewer should be a proverbial "Lions Den" for opponents to enter and one of the scariest places in the G5 schools to have to play in.

The D J is a crowd killer and a band killer. He overplayed both bands and the crowd cheers. Say what you want but I look down at the students and they are not into it either. He just makes us look like a middle school program. Please just fire the DJ and use the band. Think about the places we have been to play the big boys. they don't do this crap. It really is distracting and embarrassing. We deserve better.

[hotrod2001]

But I also agree the crowd and band were pretty ho hum. Hell, Yosef screwed up his flag at the beginning, the Cheerlearders ran "APP STA" across the endzone in TD celebrations because T and E didn't get with the program, and the GSU band, which was half the size of our band, sounded louder and was more enthusiastic than ours was by a mile. Heck the DJ couldn't even get the music right half the time.

And when did we stop with the whole "Olympic theme song" during kickoffs? That was always a good way to get people pumped, again just flat.

I'm not trying to gripe, but everyone always talks about the stands being dead, but those who are supposed to pump up the crowds are failing miserably at it.

Agree, the game didn't bother me; I mean we won. I just constantly notice the poor orchestration of the game day atmosphere. I mean it is someone's JOB to plan for the big event (games) and it's almost like they have never even planned an event. I mean, I work in sales and marketing for a large company and when we have events, they're planned to the t (entrance/exits, music fading not cutting off, strategic planning for participants, customer engagement, etc). DG has done an excellent job, but he needs to hire staff who will put in the time for our games. After all it's a big revenue generator. Just my two cents on something that constantly lacks.

Same here, a part of the KBS lore is its atmosphere...one which is supposed to have a reputation of being a hard place to play if you're a visiting team. We did pick up a bit in the third but that enthusiasm should have been there from the beginning.
It's not like we are a brand new program or something...we've been doing this sort of thing for at least the last 15 years so there should be some sort of established protocol on how to do these things, or at least people who have been doing this in a perennial manner for several seasons.

- Yosef not wearing his hat should be considered "out of uniform" and shouldn't happen unless he's letting a fan wear it in a photo op. And should also lead the team out of the tunnel with his flag waving proudly.

- Band should play before every kickoff and every touchdown. Play something besides the same song you just did for the halftime show. DON'T RESPOND TO THE OPPONENT'S BAND BY PLAYING A RECORDING.

- Hype up the start with some sort of epic, and enduring video montage to build up the tunnel entrance. When you see RISE and the various promotional segments the school releases leading up to a game, it's obvious we have some talented people with a/v capabilities working for the program, so let's utilize

- Keep the canned DJ music to a minimum, and if you use it, at least key up to the chorus parts of the songs people actually know rather than cutting them off randomly in mid stream. Also don't play songs that are clearly identifiable by other teams (looking at you Hendrix)

- If you're going to do a promotion, put some effort into it. I remember Black Saturday games you were given a black shirt to ensure the stadium was blacked out. This game, from where I was sitting was the typical mix of black, white, yellow and gray clothing as you'd see any other App game. Surely there is a sponsor out there that would have flipped the bill for some shirts or pom poms to make it a little more special than the average home game.

Just a few things we can do which would improve the atmosphere. I'm not calling for like a house cleaning of the production department, but we ARE an FBS team...meaning we are playing at the top-tier of college sports and as a result of that, our overall product should reflect that status both on the field and in the stands. Kidd Brewer should be a proverbial "Lions Den" for opponents to enter and one of the scariest places in the G5 schools to have to play in.

The D J is a crowd killer and a band killer. He overplayed both bands and the crowd cheers. Say what you want but I look down at the students and they are not into it either. He just makes us look like a middle school program. Please just fire the DJ and use the band. Think about the places we have been to play the big boys. they don't do this crap. It really is distracting and embarrassing. We deserve better.

I would think that it would be a good idea for those who are on the gameday production staff to take advantage of next week's bye (and maybe the following week's away game at ULL) to go see a game at Wake, NC State, Chapel Hill, or Duke and see what they do for crowd control at their games and take notes on what they do and apply it for Homecoming...which of all of the games we have is the one you want to make the best impression with your fan base.

[TheMackAttack]

This thread is killing me. First we complain about our freshmen kicker who (as has been pointed out) is 14/15 XP and 3/3 inside 40 yards. It's the longer field goals that aren't working out for us and it was widely reported that Rubino has a massive leg, but needs to improve on his accuracy. I think we also made a mistake not taking a timeout before the really long field goal, that whole thing looked rushed and I don't think he even walked off the kick properly. A few years from now, he's going to be one of the best G5 kickers in the country. He had scholarship offers from P5 schools coming out of high school, he's going to be a player.

Taylor Lamb is getting roasted again for ridiculous things. Our offensive line had a really bad day by their standards, even Collins had some snaps that altered plays because they were so bad. His only interception was a great play on a deflection that was very flukish. He's not a superstar, but again, he put his team in position to get the win.

The biggest issue from today's game was neither Rubino nor Lamb, it was penalties. We shot ourselves in the foot over and over again.

[CVAPP]

I guess I am just easily pleased but I will take a 14 point win over this GA State team, especially without Cox. We didn't play down to them, they played up to us. Also, some around here need to show some respect and back off disparaging our own team and our opponents.

I salute the Panthers and the progress they are making, and I hope they take the stink to the wood shed again this year.

[BTK2000]

What did happen to the Olympic song? Watching clemsons entrance to game and while I hate everything orange it is incredible and we are lacking the things that build traditions .

I completely agree with that. App has been playing football for almost 100 years and there is nothing like that at The Rock. Even the "I give my all for appalachian state" came from the Tennessee in the 90s (?). As much as I despise to say it, ECU has an amazing. Game day tradition. When I was in the band in 2012 and they raised the no quarter flag at the end of the 3rd, I got goosebumps because of how psyched the crowd was. We need something like that and we are completely lacking right now.

[appbio91]

We have something most Sun Belt teams would be envious of. We are not UT or Clemson and will never be. I don't want to be that, if I did I would have gone there. We are what we are.

Expand to most FBS teams. Just watched Hawaii and Nev., stadium almost empty most boring spectacle I can imagine in paradise.

[appbio91]

I guess I am just easily pleased but I will take a 14 point win over this GA State team, especially without Cox. We didn't play down to them, they played up to us. Also, some around here need to show some respect and back off disparaging our own team and our opponents.

I salute the Panthers and the progress they are making, and I hope they take the stink to the wood shed again this year.

I agree this is like the southern conference, we are going to get our opponents best. We are getting a ton of attention and all these players and coaches want to bitch slap us off our high horse. Keep winning and get that SBC and another bowl bid and win. The rest will take care of itself.