2016 Yosef Seating Stadium Layout

[appphotog]

Saint, thank you for the response .


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[tjpappy]

It would be very helpful if options regarding paying Yosef contributions in monthly installments were clearly outlined on the Yosef Club webpage.

Even if it is not possible to provide a direct online portal to do that at this time, at least there could be information indicating that this is possible and instructions regarding how to proceed. This would help some see that an increased level of contribution is feasible and might encourage a higher level of giving.

[JTApps1]

I would caution anyone wanting to get season tickets outside of the Yosef sections for this year. Remember we had to guarantee Miami 2,000 tickets for their game which will basically take every reserved seat outside of the Yosef sections. I would imagine wake will get a similar number of seats next year. If we subtract student seating, suite/club level, and the Miami allotment there are only abut 11,500 seats available to purchase for that game. That doesn't include the bank of course.

Still for $100 donation and $200 season tickets you can get one seat for $25 month. If you and a buddy go in and split the cost of 2 tickets and donation you're looking at $20.83 a month. I would think most people can afford $20 a month.

The Yosef Club and ticket office need to advertise the monthly options aggressively to help ease concerns over cost.

[appst89]

I am going to gripe about something now, too. My ticket renewal page shows the tickets that I have had for the last 8 years and it still shows the old Yosef contribution amount for that section on my page. I called the ticket office and was told that is not correct, that I would have to go to the higher contribution level to keep my tickets. Nowhere on the online renewal page does it state that. People are going to be terribly confused by this. I decided to call the ticket office because it seemed odd to me, but what if I hadn't? What if I had just clicked on the link to renew my tickets and my Yosef contribution at the same level?

We can, and should, do better than this. There's enough confusion already without doing dumb stuff like this to make it even worse.

[appbio91]

Checked my Yosef account and it is not showing my 2015 payment. I've emailed office, but wondered if anyone knew off the top of their heads if I should worry?

I would not worry, you would have been getting reminders if they thought you did not pay.

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[Appftw]

Just purchased my two season tickets and upped my Yosef Pledge to stay in section 203. This is my last year in the Young Alumni program now I guess I'll have to join the Old Alumni program , but I don't mind the increase in cost. There are few things more fulfilling than knowing that I'm helping to grow this amazing program and university.

[hapapp]

It would be very helpful if options regarding paying Yosef contributions in monthly installments were clearly outlined on the Yosef Club webpage.

Even if it is not possible to provide a direct online portal to do that at this time, at least there could be information indicating that this is possible and instructions regarding how to proceed. This would help some see that an increased level of contribution is feasible and might encourage a higher level of giving.

Agreed. It would likely promote more folks joining Yosef if they made it clearer and easier to accomplish. I could never join at my current level if I had to pay it all at once. Because it is possible, Yosef gets more of my money. Not sure why they don't make it easier to do that online.

[bigCasu]

If these changes are going to be made then the administration needs to step up policing of the seating. I am tired of having to kick someone out of my GD seat EVERY game. The comment about $520 to sit on the 50 is valid. If these seats have people paying a premium to sit in them they should have someone at the base of the steps checking tickets. If someone is paying a premium for these seats the administration should charge walk-ups a premium on game day for these seats. For example if the seat is an empty premium seat the walk-up pays cost of that section divided by six plus the ticket cost. That is fair, not letting someone pay $40 to sit beside me when I paid $75 per game with the Yosef donation factored in. I give to Yosef because I want to not because I get my arm twisted. If the arm twisting is going to be amplified the by God it needs to be consistent!!

Slowly steps away from soapbox.

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The best police for our seats is everyone that sits around us. We see the same people every year, and if I see someone I don't recognize, I'll ask if they got the tickets from John Doe, or if they are new to the section, etc. Its a family after all. We've seen generations grow up in the 204. That's the way we like it and its worth it to pay whatever it takes to keep it that way.

[appst89]

To echo earlier sentiments, there needs to be some protection for people who invest in season tickets. In 205 last year the seats immediately to our left, in front, and directly behind were occupied by different people every game. They were single-game purchases, and we know because we asked them. If someone is going to invest in the Yosef contribution and the season ticket to sit there, they should not have someone be able to log on or call or walk up and get the seat next to them for less money. I understand that we need commitment in the form of Yosef donors and season ticket holders. Allowing those donors to be undercut by people purchasing single-game tickets is probably doing more to discourage that commitment than anything else.

[hapapp]

BTW, you can kill two birds with one stone by calling the ticket office to purchase season tickets and they will help you with your Yosef Club renewal. Make sure to ask for the payment plan if you want to go that route.

[APPdiesel]

To echo earlier sentiments, there needs to be some protection for people who invest in season tickets. In 205 last year the seats immediately to our left, in front, and directly behind were occupied by different people every game. They were single-game purchases, and we know because we asked them. If someone is going to invest in the Yosef contribution and the season ticket to sit there, they should not have someone be able to log on or call or walk up and get the seat next to them for less money. I understand that we need commitment in the form of Yosef donors and season ticket holders. Allowing those donors to be undercut by people purchasing single-game tickets is probably doing more to discourage that commitment than anything else.

Oh my god are you seriously griping that an otherwise unused ticket was sold as a walk up? What is wrong with you? Where is this elitist "well if they didn't pay as much as me they don't deserve to even be here" attitude coming from? This is NOT the appalachian state family I know and consider myself LUCKY to be a part of. Instead of thumbing your nose at new people, why not embrace them and show them the benefit of being around good people every week?

I'm not disappointed in the university for changing their policy. I'm disappointed in what the policy is bringing out in the fan base.

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[DaphneUrquhart]

Checked my Yosef account and it is not showing my 2015 payment. I've emailed office, but wondered if anyone knew off the top of their heads if I should worry?

I wouldn't worry. Call Natalie Harkey at Yosef. There are two systems at play - Neulion and the internal App system. The internal system is the most current and accurate. There is an entire export process that has to be initiated to transfer the internal information to the web interface that we see.

It's not the most friendly of systems and is something I know is on everyone's radar as we continue to grow and improve. Thankfully, we still have live bodies who answer the phone and are quite helpful.

Remember to congratulate Natalie on the birth of her precious baby boy as well. He's a real cutie!

[DaphneUrquhart]

The Yosef Club and ticket office need to advertise the monthly options aggressively to help ease concerns over cost.

I've said this exact thing for years! I've tried to get the word out with posts here and with phone calls / emails / conversations with everyone I have a chance to speak with. The same holds true for the young alum program which is great way to get a nice priority points base without having to pay in as much. The same also holds true for multi-year pledging and leaving Yosef as a beneficiary of your estate.

I truly believe that many university folks honestly believe that these options have all been communicated to the fans. A more user friendly online experience would be helpful as would an easily accessed FAQ section.

Y'all keep your questions coming in this thread. I'll read through the thread before we have our YCAB meeting in early February and try to get answers. You can always call the Yosef office or ticket office as well.

Go Apps!

[DaphneUrquhart]

The best police for our seats is everyone that sits around us. We see the same people every year, and if I see someone I don't recognize, I'll ask if they got the tickets from John Doe, or if they are new to the section, etc. Its a family after all. We've seen generations grow up in the 204. That's the way we like it and its worth it to pay whatever it takes to keep it that way.

Same here, BigC. We know the folks who sit around us and have miniature family reunions each week. Watching the kids grow up is the absolute best!

[appst89]

To echo earlier sentiments, there needs to be some protection for people who invest in season tickets. In 205 last year the seats immediately to our left, in front, and directly behind were occupied by different people every game. They were single-game purchases, and we know because we asked them. If someone is going to invest in the Yosef contribution and the season ticket to sit there, they should not have someone be able to log on or call or walk up and get the seat next to them for less money. I understand that we need commitment in the form of Yosef donors and season ticket holders. Allowing those donors to be undercut by people purchasing single-game tickets is probably doing more to discourage that commitment than anything else.

Oh my god are you seriously griping that an otherwise unused ticket was sold as a walk up? What is wrong with you? Where is this elitist "well if they didn't pay as much as me they don't deserve to even be here" attitude coming from? This is NOT the appalachian state family I know and consider myself LUCKY to be a part of. Instead of thumbing your nose at new people, why not embrace them and show them the benefit of being around good people every week?

I'm not disappointed in the university for changing their policy. I'm disappointed in what the policy is bringing out in the fan base.

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Does it hurt much when your knee jerks like that?

I'm sorry you feel that way. If that is what you got from my post then there really is no need to spend any time trying to explain it.

[APPdiesel]

Punny.

"If someone is going to invest in the Yosef contribution and the season ticket to sit there, they should not have someone be able to log on or call or walk up and get the seat next to them for less money."

I honestly don't see another way to take that statement. That is the entire purpose of discounted walk-up tickets....to fill otherwise empty seats.

I personally have enjoyed the half-season package option now for 8 years since graduation. It's hard enough as it is to afford a 3 game package, three 6-hour road trips with all the associated costs every year...and I'm by myself (ie no kids, spouse, etc to buy tickets for). For those of us in that situation (and reading this board there are MANY like me) it's pretty clear that the university is saying "if you can't/won't commit to a full season package, we don't want anything to do with you -- oh, excuse me, give up the seats you've paid us $100+ per year for 8 years because we said so and go sit on the other side".

I'm glad that so many people can afford to drop $500+ for access to a section + $200 per ticket + associated trip costs 6x a year. Must be nice. I'm privileged to have the opportunity to support my school in other ways.

*deep breath*

[Saint3333]

it's pretty clear that the university is saying "if you can't/won't commit to a full season package, we don't want anything to do with you -- oh, excuse me, give up the seats you've paid us $100+ per year for 8 years because we said so and go sit on the other side".

1. That is one way to take this I guess, but yikes that seems to be on the extreme end of the spectrum of interpretations.

2. Paying for a half season ticket in 2015 gives you rights to that seat for three games that season, not the following season. It's like renting a house, you sign a lease for a period of time.

In 2007 or 2008 they began requiring Yosef Club donations of $250-$500 to buy season tickets in between the 20s on the west side and portions of the east side. This is deja vu.

[appbio91]

I really don't see how it is elitist to expect everyone to pay the same thing for the same seat.....I mean this is entertainment not healthcare.

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[ASUMountaineer]

Make this easy on yourselves...just join Yosef Club and buy season tickets. You owe it to your school and you owe it to yourself. You will have all year to pay for your Yosef commitment and you KNOW there is absolutely no where you would rather be on 6 weekends next fall than in one of America's 20 best stadium atmospheres. If you can’t make it to a game, it is easy to sell the tickets...but I’ll guarantee you that if you buy season tickets you will find a way to make it up the mountain more than you would have! Win-Win!

I've been a YC member and season ticket holder (same seats) for over a decade, and my season tickets just increased by $75/seat. I get what you're saying, but this move isn't just to get fence riders off the fence, it's also to raise more revenue from those that have been paying for years. I'm not complaining, more just adding context. It's not as "easy" as your post states. I'm sure I'll pay the extra $$ because I love my seats and our neighbors, and while I expected prices to rise with the FBS move, I did not expect that big of an initial increase. We'll see how this goes over and if the changes are successful. I hope they are!

[APPdiesel]

My biggest fear (and probably why I'm so adamantly against these changes) is look at the national trend of shrinking attendance numbers. And now with every single one of our games available to stream online, when demand is not at the point where we're selling out every game, I think it's dangerous to make attendance more difficult/expensive.

Look, if we're selling out every game, busting at the seams this makes COMPLETE sense. But when we're only putting 18,000 cheeks in seats for conference opponents a thousand miles away it just doesn't compute to me.

Prime example: Charlotte Motor Speedway -- that track was sold out for years. Then Humpy Wheeler built massive expansion, covered the cheap seats with advertising and said "you're either going to pay extra for the expensive new seats we just built, or watch it on tv" -- and guess what people did? They watch it on TV. And they're now tearing down the expensive new seats because nobody bought the tickets.