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2022 Baseball Mega Thread

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Re: 2022 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:18 pm

pop5app wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:15 pm
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Stonewall wrote:
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Are Georgia kids a free ride to Georgia schools?Somewhere in my memory I recall that .
Georgia, Florida and Louisiana schools can supplement cost not covered by the athletic scholarships through HOPE and Bright Futures. You also have states that offer reciprocity for in state tuition for out of state students.
I guess ,then, that as usual North Carolina doesn’t offer anything as good or as beneficial as this!
Not sure. My kids went to school in Florida. But there is also a consortium of states that offer reciprocity for out of state students. NC is not one of them.

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AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:18 pm
pop5app wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:15 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:00 am
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:51 am
Are Georgia kids a free ride to Georgia schools?Somewhere in my memory I recall that .
Georgia, Florida and Louisiana schools can supplement cost not covered by the athletic scholarships through HOPE and Bright Futures. You also have states that offer reciprocity for in state tuition for out of state students.
I guess ,then, that as usual North Carolina doesn’t offer anything as good or as beneficial as this!
Not sure. My kids went to school in Florida. But there is also a consortium of states that offer reciprocity for out of state students. NC is not one of them.
To add to this, it is very difficult for JUCO kids to come to App. App’s transfer process/requirements make it very hard to get players here. A lot of sunbelt schools get JUCO players from the breeding grounds of southeastern JUCO baseball.

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Unread post by hapapp » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:14 pm

I've read/heard that even four year transfers from some known academic schools have lost credits in transferring.

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Unread post by pop5app » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:08 pm

Appstate35 wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:44 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:18 pm
pop5app wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:15 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:00 am
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:51 am
Are Georgia kids a free ride to Georgia schools?Somewhere in my memory I recall that .
Georgia, Florida and Louisiana schools can supplement cost not covered by the athletic scholarships through HOPE and Bright Futures. You also have states that offer reciprocity for in state tuition for out of state students.
I guess ,then, that as usual North Carolina doesn’t offer anything as good or as beneficial as this!
Not sure. My kids went to school in Florida. But there is also a consortium of states that offer reciprocity for out of state students. NC is not one of them.
To add to this, it is very difficult for JUCO kids to come to App. App’s transfer process/requirements make it very hard to get players here. A lot of sunbelt schools get JUCO players from the breeding grounds of southeastern JUCO baseball.
What is it that causes the difficulty?

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:21 pm

I certainly concede, now that the numbers are out there that App State doesn't invest in baseball at nearly a high enough level. Essentially investing 1/3 of the money the top of our conference puts in ain't gonna do it. It would be really interesting to see how that money is spent (or where it isn't spent). The pressure needs to be put on DG to invest more in baseball. We're in a good league now, we need to act like it. So on that point 94 I absolutely agree with you.

And if the JUCO transfer situation is as difficult as it is, some improvements need to be made there to make that process easier.

I still however refuse to believe things like climate and altitude are insurmountable. If that were the case we'd start slow every year and come on strong the second half of the season...which we don't.
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:35 pm

"I still however refuse to believe things like climate and altitude are insurmountable."

I really don't believe anyone has said anything close to this -
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Unread post by Appstate35 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:33 pm

pop5app wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:08 pm
Appstate35 wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:44 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:18 pm
pop5app wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:15 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
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Georgia, Florida and Louisiana schools can supplement cost not covered by the athletic scholarships through HOPE and Bright Futures. You also have states that offer reciprocity for in state tuition for out of state students.
I guess ,then, that as usual North Carolina doesn’t offer anything as good or as beneficial as this!
Not sure. My kids went to school in Florida. But there is also a consortium of states that offer reciprocity for out of state students. NC is not one of them.
To add to this, it is very difficult for JUCO kids to come to App. App’s transfer process/requirements make it very hard to get players here. A lot of sunbelt schools get JUCO players from the breeding grounds of southeastern JUCO baseball.
What is it that causes the difficulty?
I’m think it has to do with credits and app not accepting classes. I could be wrong but that’s the only thing I could see it being

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:34 pm

Heck of an effort. Stranded a man on 2nd and two of our best hitters up. Tough one to lose but a good game. Did anyone in the Winston area get to go?
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Unread post by Stonewall » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:39 pm

A play here or there could have turned it , but yes good effort .

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Unread post by Appstate35 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:01 pm

Would have been great to pull that one out

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Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:42 pm

The difficulty in JuCo's going to App is across all sports. App doesn't give too many or any academic waivers for JuCos who don't meet certain requirements. The only other Sun Belt school (not sure about the new members) who is similar is ULM, and it's known how much they struggle in many sports.

I think another issue in recent years for App was the elimination of the out-of-state waiver. Basically, before the recession a decade ago, UNC System schools could have a student athlete from out of state and only have to pay in-state rates for their scholarship. That went away when the N.C. General Assembly was slashing budgets in 2010. That added around $1 million to the scholarship bill.

Efforts have tried to remove the athletics exemption from the 2010 bill, but that hasn't passed.

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Unread post by pop5app » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:35 am

T-Dog wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:42 pm
The difficulty in JuCo's going to App is across all sports. App doesn't give too many or any academic waivers for JuCos who don't meet certain requirements. The only other Sun Belt school (not sure about the new members) who is similar is ULM, and it's known how much they struggle in many sports.

I think another issue in recent years for App was the elimination of the out-of-state waiver. Basically, before the recession a decade ago, UNC System schools could have a student athlete from out of state and only have to pay in-state rates for their scholarship. That went away when the N.C. General Assembly was slashing budgets in 2010. That added around $1 million to the scholarship bill.

Efforts have tried to remove the athletics exemption from the 2010 bill, but that hasn't passed.
Thanks T-dog! But please help me understand, Do Athletic scholarships ,for out of state students, cost the same as in state?

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:31 am

pop5app wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:35 am
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:42 pm
The difficulty in JuCo's going to App is across all sports. App doesn't give too many or any academic waivers for JuCos who don't meet certain requirements. The only other Sun Belt school (not sure about the new members) who is similar is ULM, and it's known how much they struggle in many sports.

I think another issue in recent years for App was the elimination of the out-of-state waiver. Basically, before the recession a decade ago, UNC System schools could have a student athlete from out of state and only have to pay in-state rates for their scholarship. That went away when the N.C. General Assembly was slashing budgets in 2010. That added around $1 million to the scholarship bill.

Efforts have tried to remove the athletics exemption from the 2010 bill, but that hasn't passed.
Thanks T-dog! But please help me understand, Do Athletic scholarships ,for out of state students, cost the same as in state?
The law just passed making them so. It is going to save us somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.5 million.

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Unread post by appfanjj » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:11 am

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Honestly, I'm conflicted. Are we supposed to feel good about this? Played well but came up short is kinda getting old.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:32 am

It tells me that the baseball team might be a couple of key players away from being an above average team as compared to a team which is a long, long way from being competitive -
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Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:40 pm

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Thanks T-dog! But please help me understand, Do Athletic scholarships ,for out of state students, cost the same as in state?
For the last decade-plus, no. They cost the same as every other student and the Athletics Department had to foot that bill. That's partially the reason why you had so many in-state student athletes on Olympic sports teams.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:43 pm

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The law just passed making them so. It is going to save us somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.5 million.
I looked around for it last night and couldn't find such a bill. A bill in 2019 passed the state House with overwhelming support, but never saw the light of a state Senate committee. There was another bill filed in February 2021 that never was heard. Was it part of an ombud bill or the state budget?

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