Women's Soccer Defeats Ga Southern

[NewApp]

https://appstatesports.com/news/2019/9/ ... ?path=wsoc

BOONE, N.C. - App State women's soccer earned its first Sun Belt win, defeating Georgia Southern 2-1 on Sunday afternoon at Ted Mackorell Soccer Complex.

Appalachian improves to 4-5-2 on the season and .500 in the Sun Belt at 1-1-1, while Georgia Southern is 4-5-1 and is handed its first loss in league action (1-1-1 SBC). App
State stays undefeated at home with a 4-0-2 mark.

"To get that first win in the Sun Belt is huge," head coach Sarah Strickland said. "It was a great team performance, we went deep into our bench and got a lot great minutes from the girls. The
energy on the sidelines was awesome and the fans were bought in, were loud, supportive and what we expect from App Nation."

The Mountaineers and Eagles were tied 1-1 until the 78th minute when Ava Dawson played Abbey Rand in the top left corner of the box. Rand beat her defender before
firing the shot past the goalkeeper to the right side of the net. For Rand, it's her second goal of the season. Both of her goals have either tied up the game or won the contest
for the Black and Gold.

[asu66]

All SBC wins are good wins. Beating Ga Sou is a Quality Win!

[NewApp]

All SBC wins are good wins. Beating Ga Sou is a Quality Win!

True, 66.

[BooneKarate]

Still a very underwhelming team. Coaching staff has led them to 4 wins in 11 games....1 win in 3 SB games...are we really proud of that? I mean yeah if your only win of the year is over GaSo, then awesome, but I'd love to see....idk like...a winning record...

[NewApp]

Still a very underwhelming team. Coaching staff has led them to 4 wins in 11 games....1 win in 3 SB games...are we really proud of that? I mean yeah if your only win of the year is over GaSo, then awesome, but I'd love to see....idk like...a winning record...

.500 in the Sun Belt at 1-1-1 is a good start. The team is 1 win away from .500 overall with a 4-5-2 record. Negativity achieves nothing. Sure hope the girls don't read this board.

[BooneKarate]

Still a very underwhelming team. Coaching staff has led them to 4 wins in 11 games....1 win in 3 SB games...are we really proud of that? I mean yeah if your only win of the year is over GaSo, then awesome, but I'd love to see....idk like...a winning record...

.500 in the Sun Belt at 1-1-1 is a good start. The team is 1 win away from .500 overall with a 4-5-2 record. Negativity achieves nothing. Sure hope the girls don't read this board.

I sure hope the coach reads this board. Give us something to be more proud of. I'm sorry, but you've won 4 games out of 11. If you win one, you're 5 of 12. I'm not sure how you're getting them to be 1 game from .500. You don't get to ignore games if you tie. You still didn't win. The website doesn't calculate this formula correctly. Google it if you don't believe me.

[NewApp]

Still a very underwhelming team. Coaching staff has led them to 4 wins in 11 games....1 win in 3 SB games...are we really proud of that? I mean yeah if your only win of the year is over GaSo, then awesome, but I'd love to see....idk like...a winning record...

.500 in the Sun Belt at 1-1-1 is a good start. The team is 1 win away from .500 overall with a 4-5-2 record. Negativity achieves nothing. Sure hope the girls don't read this board.

I sure hope the coach reads this board. Give us something to be more proud of. I'm sorry, but you've won 4 games out of 11. If you win one, you're 5 of 12. I'm not sure how you're getting them to be 1 game from .500. You don't get to ignore games if you tie. You still didn't win. The website doesn't calculate this formula correctly. Google it if you don't believe me.

I didn't know that about ties, Didn't think they counted as losses. I thought 5-5-2 would be .500. My bad.

[asu66]

Ties don't factor into winning or losing percentages. They do count in the point system for determining conference standings...3 points for each win, 1 point for each draw and nada for each loss.

[BooneKarate]

Ties don't factor into winning or losing percentages. They do count in the point system for determining conference standings...3 points for each win, 1 point for each draw and nada for each loss.

Then why do the Lions and Vikings have a different win percentage according to ESPN?
https://espn.com/nfl/standings

Do we calculate win percentage different in soccer than in football? Looks like ESPN calculates a tie as a half win half loss.

Either way, let's be honest with ourselves. Sports are about winning. Not tying. Winning. It's a winning percentage, not a win:loss ratio. If it's not a win, it's not a win. Are we not here to win? If we are here for the amount of games we can win or tie then that's crazy. We've all seen the teams that play to win and the teams that play to not lose. What team do you want to see out on the field? I want to see a winning team.

[asucrutch23]

Ties don't factor into winning or losing percentages. They do count in the point system for determining conference standings...3 points for each win, 1 point for each draw and nada for each loss.

Then why do the Lions and Vikings have a different win percentage according to ESPN?
https://espn.com/nfl/standings

Do we calculate win percentage different in soccer than in football? Looks like ESPN calculates a tie as a half win half loss.

Either way, let's be honest with ourselves. Sports are about winning. Not tying. Winning. It's a winning percentage, not a win:loss ratio. If it's not a win, it's not a win. Are we not here to win? If we are here for the amount of games we can win or tie then that's crazy. We've all seen the teams that play to win and the teams that play to not lose. What team do you want to see out on the field? I want to see a winning team.

Of course the Lions and Vikings don't have the same win %. A tie is a half win. Both the SBC and ESPN are calculating it the same way.

The Lions winning percentage would be calculated like this:

2.5 wins divided by 4 games played. 2.5 divided by 4 is 0.625.


The Vikings winning percentage would be calculated like this:

2 wins divided by 4 games played. 2 divided by 4 is 0.500.


App State's SBC winning percentage would be calculated like this:

1.5 wins divided by 3 games played. 1.5 divided by 3 is 0.500.

App State's overall winning percentage IS one win from 0.500. If they win the next game, they will be 5-5-2, and it would be calculated like this:

6 wins (5 wins plus 2 half wins) divided by 12 games played. 6 divided by 12 is 0.500.


Now all that said, I like that soccer uses 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie. Back when the World Cup used 2 for a win and 1 for a tie, there used to be some boring games because that tie is worth more. A game that many people accuse as being boring (it's not) needed to encourage attacking play instead of playing for a draw.

[BooneKarate]

Ties don't factor into winning or losing percentages. They do count in the point system for determining conference standings...3 points for each win, 1 point for each draw and nada for each loss.

Then why do the Lions and Vikings have a different win percentage according to ESPN?
https://espn.com/nfl/standings

Do we calculate win percentage different in soccer than in football? Looks like ESPN calculates a tie as a half win half loss.

Either way, let's be honest with ourselves. Sports are about winning. Not tying. Winning. It's a winning percentage, not a win:loss ratio. If it's not a win, it's not a win. Are we not here to win? If we are here for the amount of games we can win or tie then that's crazy. We've all seen the teams that play to win and the teams that play to not lose. What team do you want to see out on the field? I want to see a winning team.

Of course the Lions and Vikings don't have the same win %. A tie is a half win. Both the SBC and ESPN are calculating it the same way.

The Lions winning percentage would be calculated like this:

2.5 wins divided by 4 games played. 2.5 divided by 4 is 0.625.


The Vikings winning percentage would be calculated like this:

2 wins divided by 4 games played. 2 divided by 4 is 0.500.


App State's SBC winning percentage would be calculated like this:

1.5 wins divided by 3 games played. 1.5 divided by 3 is 0.500.

App State's overall winning percentage IS one win from 0.500. If they win the next game, they will be 5-5-2, and it would be calculated like this:

6 wins (5 wins plus 2 half wins) divided by 12 games played. 6 divided by 12 is 0.500.


Now all that said, I like that soccer uses 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie. Back when the World Cup used 2 for a win and 1 for a tie, there used to be some boring games because that tie is worth more. A game that many people accuse as being boring (it's not) needed to encourage attacking play instead of playing for a draw.

I hear what you're saying, and I don't disagree with the math at all. But I feel like we should be here to win... as Herm Edwards famously said, you play to win the game.

[goapps93]

Ties don't factor into winning or losing percentages. They do count in the point system for determining conference standings...3 points for each win, 1 point for each draw and nada for each loss.

Then why do the Lions and Vikings have a different win percentage according to ESPN?
https://espn.com/nfl/standings

Do we calculate win percentage different in soccer than in football? Looks like ESPN calculates a tie as a half win half loss.

Either way, let's be honest with ourselves. Sports are about winning. Not tying. Winning. It's a winning percentage, not a win:loss ratio. If it's not a win, it's not a win. Are we not here to win? If we are here for the amount of games we can win or tie then that's crazy. We've all seen the teams that play to win and the teams that play to not lose. What team do you want to see out on the field? I want to see a winning team.

Of course the Lions and Vikings don't have the same win %. A tie is a half win. Both the SBC and ESPN are calculating it the same way.

The Lions winning percentage would be calculated like this:

2.5 wins divided by 4 games played. 2.5 divided by 4 is 0.625.


The Vikings winning percentage would be calculated like this:

2 wins divided by 4 games played. 2 divided by 4 is 0.500.


App State's SBC winning percentage would be calculated like this:

1.5 wins divided by 3 games played. 1.5 divided by 3 is 0.500.

App State's overall winning percentage IS one win from 0.500. If they win the next game, they will be 5-5-2, and it would be calculated like this:

6 wins (5 wins plus 2 half wins) divided by 12 games played. 6 divided by 12 is 0.500.


Now all that said, I like that soccer uses 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie. Back when the World Cup used 2 for a win and 1 for a tie, there used to be some boring games because that tie is worth more. A game that many people accuse as being boring (it's not) needed to encourage attacking play instead of playing for a draw.

I hear what you're saying, and I don't disagree with the math at all. But I feel like we should be here to win... as Herm Edwards famously said, you play to win the game.

Yes wins are the best but ties are better than losses. Ties are also much more common in soccer and also more acceptable. It's hard to score when teams are evenly matched and regular season contests are allowed to end in a tie.

[BooneKarate]

If ya'll enjoy ties, then keep watching our women's soccer team then. I'll be watching O'Keefe with the Men's Soccer team. 6 wins out of 9 games so far. And believe it or not, he's actually won a game on the road. Crazy concept for the women's coaching staff.

[goapps93]

Good grief man. No one enjoys ties. The women's team doesn't appear to be very good so a tie may just be a major accomplishment that feeds some momentum to improve. Ties are what they are.

[BooneKarate]

When do we get a new coach who can turn the program around like O'Keefe has done for the men? Maybe it sounds ridiculous that I'm bringing this up, but when has Strickland ever been a winning coach? Any time in the last 5 years? Let's be winners. DG hired winning coaches so far (jury out on Kerns without a game played). Drink already with a monumental win. Hoerner turned softball around in 2 years. O'Keefe turned Men's Soccer in 2 years. Let's be winners.

It's not about firing Strickland, it's about having a winning coach. If she was one, I'd be all for her. She's had plenty of time to be one and plenty of excuses on why she isn't one.

[PoplarHillApp]

Congrats to the Lady App Soccer Team! Any victory over Georgia Southern is a good victory in my book. Except a swimming contest in Eagle Creek, where I would let GSU jump in first and just say "You win!"

[AppGrad78]

When do we get a new coach who can turn the program around like O'Keefe has done for the men? Maybe it sounds ridiculous that I'm bringing this up, but when has Strickland ever been a winning coach? Any time in the last 5 years? Let's be winners. DG hired winning coaches so far (jury out on Kerns without a game played). Drink already with a monumental win. Hoerner turned softball around in 2 years. O'Keefe turned Men's Soccer in 2 years. Let's be winners.

It's not about firing Strickland, it's about having a winning coach. If she was one, I'd be all for her. She's had plenty of time to be one and plenty of excuses on why she isn't one.

Not sure what your beef is with coach Strickland. I get the winning part. I'm frustrated too. But most of us understand that winning is less likely when the program isn't fully funded. This sounds more like a personal issue.

[asu66]

If ya'll enjoy ties, then keep watching our women's soccer team then. I'll be watching O'Keefe with the Men's Soccer team. 6 wins out of 9 games so far. And believe it or not, he's actually won a game on the road. Crazy concept for the women's coaching staff.A/quote]

Take your meds, man. I merely mentioned to NewApp that a tie earns a point in Sun Belt Conference soccer standings. That's better than a loss; and yes, it's not as good as a win. Regardless, try supporting every team that wears the App State B & G!

[NewApp]

Ties don't factor into winning or losing percentages. They do count in the point system for determining conference standings...3 points for each win, 1 point for each draw and nada for each loss.

So I was right for a change, 66. Sort of.

[NewApp]

If ya'll enjoy ties, then keep watching our women's soccer team then. I'll be watching O'Keefe with the Men's Soccer team. 6 wins out of 9 games so far. And believe it or not, he's actually won a game on the road. Crazy concept for the women's coaching staff.A/quote]

Take your meds, man. I merely mentioned to NewApp that a tie earns a point in Sun Belt Conference soccer standings. That's better than a loss; and yes, it's not as good as a win. Regardless, try supporting every team that wears the App State B & G!

Good advice to everyone, 66.