Science Discussion

[311neers]

This is what happens when the team stinks.

[Seattleapp]

Can I mute a topic? I don’t care to be “educated” on YC.

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

[appstate24]

Can I mute a topic? I don’t care to be “educated” on YC.

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

Boom

[AppfaninCAALand]

Can I mute a topic? I don’t care to be “educated” on YC.

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

Hey, I answered very seriously - unless you think a 3000 ft rise over a 400 year period burying Doggerland, the Banda and Atlatnic Continental Shelves, etc isn't serious? It is certainly more serious than the cycles of slight rising and falling in the subsequent 10,000 years.

[Seattleapp]

Can I mute a topic? I don’t care to be “educated” on YC.

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

Hey, I answered very seriously - unless you think a 3000 ft rise over a 400 year period burying Doggerland, the Banda and Atlatnic Continental Shelves, etc isn't serious? It is certainly more serious than the cycles of slight rising and falling in the subsequent 10,000 years.

Ok. So what’s the solution? I’ll give give you a hint. All of us driving electric cars ain’t it. And we’ve had internal combustion engines for how much of that 400 year span? I’m
Not at all trying to be snarky, but the “green new deal” is nonsense and a pretty obvious money grab. Nuclear energy is quite clean but we can’t do that either. Until we master hydrogen fuel we are where we are.

[Saint3333]

Carbon footprint of EVs isn’t pretty once you consider the raw materials involved, the recycling process and the power sources.

I am a proponent for the use of nuclear, shame of us and Europe for abandoning it as a viable source of energy.

[appbio91]

We’re going to win so bigly on climate change you won’t even believe it, it’s going to huge like nothing this world has ever seen, we’ll build a big beautiful sea wall.

[spacemonkey]

If you want to worry about something...PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
John McCain saved the ACA last time. He is not there to do it now.

I had a brother pass away from cancer at a young age, 27 and I will never forget him saying "I will never be able to change jobs because I will lose my heath insurance" This is a real one...that will affect people in a serious way.

[ASUTodd]

Can I mute a topic? I don’t care to be “educated” on YC.

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

Hey, I answered very seriously - unless you think a 3000 ft rise over a 400 year period burying Doggerland, the Banda and Atlatnic Continental Shelves, etc isn't serious? It is certainly more serious than the cycles of slight rising and falling in the subsequent 10,000 years.

Ok. So what’s the solution? I’ll give give you a hint. All of us driving electric cars ain’t it. And we’ve had internal combustion engines for how much of that 400 year span? I’m
Not at all trying to be snarky, but the “green new deal” is nonsense and a pretty obvious money grab. Nuclear energy is quite clean but we can’t do that either. Until we master hydrogen fuel we are where we are.

I never thought I'd agree with you on something. You nailed this one.

[AppfaninCAALand]

Can I mute a topic? I don’t care to be “educated” on YC.

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

Hey, I answered very seriously - unless you think a 3000 ft rise over a 400 year period burying Doggerland, the Banda and Atlantic Continental Shelves, etc isn't serious? It is certainly more serious than the cycles of slight rising and falling in the subsequent 10,000 years.

Ok. So what’s the solution? I’ll give give you a hint. All of us driving electric cars ain’t it. And we’ve had internal combustion engines for how much of that 400 year span? I’m
Not at all trying to be snarky, but the “green new deal” is nonsense and a pretty obvious money grab. Nuclear energy is quite clean but we can’t do that either. Until we master hydrogen fuel we are where we are.

To answer your question, the internal combustion engine engine existed for 0 of those years of the 3000 ft sea level rise, as it happened around 10,000 BC.

See the bolded part about "slight" and "subsequent 10,000 year" above. In the post quoted above, I was referencing my prior post where I answered the original question with the various theories about what may have caused the Younger Dyras and the end of the Ice Age. That is the last known substantial sea level change. You missed the point of my post, which is fair since it wasn't quoted here and easily missed on page 2.

The Younger Dryas period was serious "climate change". The talk about what is happening now is not serious, it is a grift.

[AppOrange]

Earth's one full wobble, which looks like a slowly spinning top, happens every 10,000 to 23,000 years, according to astronomer Milutin Milankovic. In 1976, in a landmark study, it was reported that over the past 80,000 years, carbon dioxide levels fluctuated between about 170 parts per million and 280 ppm. I learned about it in a HS earth science class 35 years ago. You don’t hear about this enough because it’s not sexy and is boring news. Basically, sea level rise is a natural phenomenon perhaps being slightly accelerated by humans. With that said, humans are a cancer to the planet the way we abuse it.

[AppfaninCAALand]

Earth's one full wobble, which looks like a slowly spinning top, happens every 10,000 to 23,000 years, according to astronomer Milutin Milankovic. In 1976, in a landmark study, it was reported that over the past 80,000 years, carbon dioxide levels fluctuated between about 170 parts per million and 280 ppm. I learned about it in a HS earth science class 35 years ago. You don’t hear about this enough because it’s not sexy and is boring news. Basically, sea level rise is a natural phenomenon perhaps being slightly accelerated by humans. With that said, humans are a cancer to the planet the way we abuse it.

Excluding the last line, which opens a whole other debate, I think this is the most serious answer here to the question asked at the top of this thread.

[AppDub]

Earth's one full wobble, which looks like a slowly spinning top, happens every 10,000 to 23,000 years, according to astronomer Milutin Milankovic. In 1976, in a landmark study, it was reported that over the past 80,000 years, carbon dioxide levels fluctuated between about 170 parts per million and 280 ppm. I learned about it in a HS earth science class 35 years ago. You don’t hear about this enough because it’s not sexy and is boring news. Basically, sea level rise is a natural phenomenon perhaps being slightly accelerated by humans. With that said, humans are a cancer to the planet the way we abuse it.

Humans are a cancer. Really?

[Mjohn1988]

Earth's one full wobble, which looks like a slowly spinning top, happens every 10,000 to 23,000 years, according to astronomer Milutin Milankovic. In 1976, in a landmark study, it was reported that over the past 80,000 years, carbon dioxide levels fluctuated between about 170 parts per million and 280 ppm. I learned about it in a HS earth science class 35 years ago. You don’t hear about this enough because it’s not sexy and is boring news. Basically, sea level rise is a natural phenomenon perhaps being slightly accelerated by humans. With that said, humans are a cancer to the planet the way we abuse it.

Well dang it, we’re right back to population control, or eradication.

[Seattleapp]

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

Hey, I answered very seriously - unless you think a 3000 ft rise over a 400 year period burying Doggerland, the Banda and Atlatnic Continental Shelves, etc isn't serious? It is certainly more serious than the cycles of slight rising and falling in the subsequent 10,000 years.

Ok. So what’s the solution? I’ll give give you a hint. All of us driving electric cars ain’t it. And we’ve had internal combustion engines for how much of that 400 year span? I’m
Not at all trying to be snarky, but the “green new deal” is nonsense and a pretty obvious money grab. Nuclear energy is quite clean but we can’t do that either. Until we master hydrogen fuel we are where we are.

I never thought I'd agree with you on something. You nailed this one.

Hahahah. I’m really not that extreme. I just sometimes am too blunt on this message board .

[AppStFan1]

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

Hey, I answered very seriously - unless you think a 3000 ft rise over a 400 year period burying Doggerland, the Banda and Atlatnic Continental Shelves, etc isn't serious? It is certainly more serious than the cycles of slight rising and falling in the subsequent 10,000 years.

Ok. So what’s the solution? I’ll give give you a hint. All of us driving electric cars ain’t it. And we’ve had internal combustion engines for how much of that 400 year span? I’m
Not at all trying to be snarky, but the “green new deal” is nonsense and a pretty obvious money grab. Nuclear energy is quite clean but we can’t do that either. Until we master hydrogen fuel we are where we are.

I never thought I'd agree with you on something. You nailed this one.

Hahahah. I’m really not that extreme. I just sometimes am too blunt on this message board .

Not at all. I like when someone is blunt. It is the truth.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Can I mute a topic? I don’t care to be “educated” on YC.

Just don't read it. I don't read every post and thread on YC. It can be done.

What is the point of this thread. Obviously you feel intellectually superior because why else would you even broach it? But if you got an agenda to push which it REALLY looks like you do then just say what what you want to say. Stop teying to lure people into the nonsense

I am more than happy to admit I don't know everything, hell I have already done that with a question that was raised on this thread. I don't have any agenda at all beyond some basic science education. It really is as simple as that. But I will elaborate a bit more since you seem to want that.

I am tired of hearing from so many that want to raise this point or that about climate change and to be honest they seem to have very little science knowledge. That is fine, there are plenty of things I do not know much about. I also am aware of that and don't put things out there that are just false and wrong, at least not intentionally. At some point people making such false claims need to produce the evidence on their side. That does bring us back to my just wondering what the level of basic science knowledge is for those that are on YC and if I can promote a bit of learning then all the better.

As I have stated I set this up as a separate thread in a folder that gets little posting. It is easy to just not read if learning a few things over the next few months is a bother. There will be a lot to filter through so I get it. I am not aware of any manner to post the question and then the answer without all the in-between messages, and I don't really want to have a separate thread for every question I post as that would also be a pain for everyone.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Question 1: What is the largest contributor to sea level ocean rise?

Overpopulation of Homo sapiens (which also contributes to many other global issues)

I am looking for a non anthropogenic answer.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

What about the water? I need a bit more details. (I know you are trying to take the piss out of me, but I will play it straight.)

More water?

That is a common misconception and the reason I asked this question first. Most everyone things the melting ice is the reason sea levels are rising but that is not the MAIN reason. Ice melt putting more water in the oceans is indeed part of the reason but there is more to it than that.

Thermal expansion occurs with the water. When things increase their temperature they increase in volume. The water just takes up more space due to higher temperatures. From what I have read from various sources thermal expansion is about 55-60% of the cause of rising sea levels and the increased amount of water due to melting ice is the other part of it. Of course the recently melted water is also going to go through thermal expansion.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Question 1: What is the largest contributor to sea level ocean rise?

I'm going with a solar flair, volcanic eruption, metorite strike or whatever massive thing happened 12,000 years ago to cause the Younger Dryas at the end of the Pleistocene Epoch, with melting of the Northern Hemisphere ice caps, 3000 ft sea level rise, the origin of all the ancient flood myths, extinction of the megafauna, etc

I don't know that much about the Younger Dryas. but temperatures were a bit cooler then. After Younger Dryas there was some sea level rise (Meltwater Pulse 1B) but that was around 28 meters at most it seems. Still a lot of sea level rise after the Younger Dryas. There is a lot of great climate science in all of this with sea level, amount of ice, albedo effects.