High Country Hurricane Damage

[hapapp]

I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

I'm certain you personally have not!

Obviously I haven't. I'm sure folks are frustrated as would anyone in that situation but there has been no evidence to suggest that what the government is doing in other areas as hampered the response here.

I think the overall point is Mayorkas comments on the hurricane fund should not have been articulated the way it was by him. It just led to fear mongering in relation to people will not get taken care of. If he had to do all over again, maybe he would.. hopefully
My personal opinion is that there should have been a comprehensive presser by someone to outline
Step 1, Step 2, Step 3...that $750 is initial payment..step 2 is xyz etc.
Maybe it was and I missed the presser... however, it should have been on repeat for several days given Mayorkas original comments How it played out... allowed much misinformation to float around on social media..whether it was true or not by the other side.....just my opinion ...not a political statement...

He was pretty clear in his statement that FEMA did not have enough money to make it through the Hurricane season. Everyone gets hung up on the $750 narrative and sees that through the lens that they want to depending on political persuasion, but his sharing that funds are not in abundance to help get through the season is an even bigger concern. Wonder where that money went?

The Congress hasn't provided a true budget for FEMA, they are operating on a continuing resolution that gave them $20B. You are correct, he did say the season but also stated that they have enough to cover Helene and Milton. The misinformation that some have spread about it going to immigrants is money that actually is budgeted to US Customs and Border Protection that FEMA administers. That is a separate source of money, not money taken from the disaster funds.

[AppDub]

I'm certain you personally have not!

Obviously I haven't. I'm sure folks are frustrated as would anyone in that situation but there has been no evidence to suggest that what the government is doing in other areas as hampered the response here.

I think the overall point is Mayorkas comments on the hurricane fund should not have been articulated the way it was by him. It just led to fear mongering in relation to people will not get taken care of. If he had to do all over again, maybe he would.. hopefully
My personal opinion is that there should have been a comprehensive presser by someone to outline
Step 1, Step 2, Step 3...that $750 is initial payment..step 2 is xyz etc.
Maybe it was and I missed the presser... however, it should have been on repeat for several days given Mayorkas original comments How it played out... allowed much misinformation to float around on social media..whether it was true or not by the other side.....just my opinion ...not a political statement...

He was pretty clear in his statement that FEMA did not have enough money to make it through the Hurricane season. Everyone gets hung up on the $750 narrative and sees that through the lens that they want to depending on political persuasion, but his sharing that funds are not in abundance to help get through the season is an even bigger concern. Wonder where that money went?

The Congress hasn't provided a true budget for FEMA, they are operating on a continuing resolution that gave them $20B. You are correct, he did say the season but also stated that they have enough to cover Helene and Milton. The misinformation that some have spread about it going to immigrants is money that actually is budgeted to US Customs and Border Protection that FEMA administers. That is a separate source of money, not money taken from the disaster funds.

Never mentioned immigrants. Just lack of funding. A shame either way.

[hapapp]

Obviously I haven't. I'm sure folks are frustrated as would anyone in that situation but there has been no evidence to suggest that what the government is doing in other areas as hampered the response here.

I think the overall point is Mayorkas comments on the hurricane fund should not have been articulated the way it was by him. It just led to fear mongering in relation to people will not get taken care of. If he had to do all over again, maybe he would.. hopefully
My personal opinion is that there should have been a comprehensive presser by someone to outline
Step 1, Step 2, Step 3...that $750 is initial payment..step 2 is xyz etc.
Maybe it was and I missed the presser... however, it should have been on repeat for several days given Mayorkas original comments How it played out... allowed much misinformation to float around on social media..whether it was true or not by the other side.....just my opinion ...not a political statement...

He was pretty clear in his statement that FEMA did not have enough money to make it through the Hurricane season. Everyone gets hung up on the $750 narrative and sees that through the lens that they want to depending on political persuasion, but his sharing that funds are not in abundance to help get through the season is an even bigger concern. Wonder where that money went?

The Congress hasn't provided a true budget for FEMA, they are operating on a continuing resolution that gave them $20B. You are correct, he did say the season but also stated that they have enough to cover Helene and Milton. The misinformation that some have spread about it going to immigrants is money that actually is budgeted to US Customs and Border Protection that FEMA administers. That is a separate source of money, not money taken from the disaster funds.

Never mentioned immigrants. Just lack of funding. A shame either way.

Didn't suggest you did, but some have made the claim.

[311neers]

Students are back on campus after fall break. Oct. 16. Fingers crossed for hosting a home game. Would be cool to see students, faculty and locals/relief services only maybe.

[AppDub]

Students are back on campus after fall break. Oct. 16. Fingers crossed for hosting a home game. Would be cool to see students, faculty and locals/relief services only maybe.

Has students back on campus starting the 16th been officially announced yet? My daughter is a freshman and I heard they are announcing something tomorrow, but the last communication said that they would be out until at least the 16th.

Edited: Just saw the communication as it came out tonight. Back on the 16th.

[WVAPPeer]

From FoxNews "Speaker of the House Mike Johnson addressed claims that the Biden administration diverted Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) funds to immigration efforts, saying the pools of funds are "different,""
From The Hill
"Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Tuesday said Congress has already authorized the disaster relief funds needed for the immediate response to Helene, the storm that has ravaged multiple states from Florida up through western North Carolina and Tennessee.

Speaking at the New York Stock Exchange before delivering remarks on his economic agenda, Johnson noted a replenishment of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) disaster relief fund was included in a three-month stopgap government funding bill that Congress passed, and that President Biden signed into law, last week.


“Congress has previously provided the funds it [FEMA] needs to respond, so we will make sure that those resources are appropriately allocated,” Johnson said.

[mountaineerman]

From FoxNews "Speaker of the House Mike Johnson addressed claims that the Biden administration diverted Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) funds to immigration efforts, saying the pools of funds are "different,""
From The Hill
"Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Tuesday said Congress has already authorized the disaster relief funds needed for the immediate response to Helene, the storm that has ravaged multiple states from Florida up through western North Carolina and Tennessee.

Speaking at the New York Stock Exchange before delivering remarks on his economic agenda, Johnson noted a replenishment of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) disaster relief fund was included in a three-month stopgap government funding bill that Congress passed, and that President Biden signed into law, last week.


“Congress has previously provided the funds it [FEMA] needs to respond, so we will make sure that those resources are appropriately allocated,” Johnson said.

Rek and you are undisputed kings of gaslighting enjoy the thrown!

[mountaineerman]

From FoxNews "Speaker of the House Mike Johnson addressed claims that the Biden administration diverted Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) funds to immigration efforts, saying the pools of funds are "different,""
From The Hill
"Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Tuesday said Congress has already authorized the disaster relief funds needed for the immediate response to Helene, the storm that has ravaged multiple states from Florida up through western North Carolina and Tennessee.

Speaking at the New York Stock Exchange before delivering remarks on his economic agenda, Johnson noted a replenishment of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) disaster relief fund was included in a three-month stopgap government funding bill that Congress passed, and that President Biden signed into law, last week.


“Congress has previously provided the funds it [FEMA] needs to respond, so we will make sure that those resources are appropriately allocated,” Johnson said.

Rek and you are undisputed kings of gaslighting enjoy the thrown!

My community of Hendersonville is still in bad shape. Community has done more than anyone in this situation by far and not even close.

[appstate24]

From FoxNews "Speaker of the House Mike Johnson addressed claims that the Biden administration diverted Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) funds to immigration efforts, saying the pools of funds are "different,""
From The Hill
"Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Tuesday said Congress has already authorized the disaster relief funds needed for the immediate response to Helene, the storm that has ravaged multiple states from Florida up through western North Carolina and Tennessee.

Speaking at the New York Stock Exchange before delivering remarks on his economic agenda, Johnson noted a replenishment of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) disaster relief fund was included in a three-month stopgap government funding bill that Congress passed, and that President Biden signed into law, last week.


“Congress has previously provided the funds it [FEMA] needs to respond, so we will make sure that those resources are appropriately allocated,” Johnson said.

Rek and you are undisputed kings of gaslighting enjoy the thrown!

My community of Hendersonville is still in bad shape. Community has done more than anyone in this situation by far and not even close.

100000%

[Seattleapp]

Screw everyone who’s sitting in their living rooms trying to play revisionist history. I saw it first hand. I was it first hand. The
Response in the mountains of nc and East Tennessee were regular people racing there and putting themselves is harms way to help
The storm victims. I’m really glad fema has finally showed up, but it took a week for them to get established into the area. But guess what, that’s their F’ing job. It’s what we pay for. And here’s a newsflash, you can still love this administration and admit fema was late to the party. Both can be true at the same time. No one is going to take your blue tie away. But it’s outrageous that some one here are so steeped in political ideology that they will minimize the efforts by local
Sons and daughters of Appalachia so they can carry the water for a national political party. And I say national because no one has said anything about nc’s governor who’s a democrat. It’s shameful. For the first
Week, fema was no where. Thats the truth and the truth hurts. Im glad
They are there now. But I was more proud of
Seeing countless regular people taking care
Of one another and they didn’t ask who people were voting for before helping them. So it’s pathetic the usual suspects on here are twisting themselves into knots to defend the fema response because a guy wearing a blue tie is in office. Please be morally and intellectually honest. Its ok, you’ll still be able to vote for who you want in a month

[Seattleapp]

One has nothing to do with the other.

Of course it does. Get ahead of it and you control the narrative, then prioritizing your citizens shows we are doing what is necessary to provide for our own.

I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

I'm certain you personally have not!

Obviously I haven't. I'm sure folks are frustrated as would anyone in that situation but there has been no evidence to suggest that what the government is doing in other areas as hampered the response here.

If you don’t know personally maybe you should stop posting lest your
Ideological
Ignorance show through

[Seattleapp]

I live in Vilas along Old 421. Cove creek ravaged the valley. I have seen nothing but a fantastic coordinated effort by volunteers, blue ridge electric, cable cos, DOT , law enforcement, emergency personnel and FEMA. From day one it has been a great effort by all. We are already seeing much improvement. I quit bitching and rolled my sleeves up with everyone else out here.

FEMA was not there on day one. Many others were. Stop lying

[Seattleapp]

It hurts to write this. I have a friend who manages crews for Dominion Energy. There is no easy or respectful way to say this so here goes. His guys are finding around 20 bodies per hour. This is going to be so much worse than we could ever have imagined. Pray for those who have lost loved ones. We can and will help our neighbors replace houses and belongings. We can and will help rebuild lives. But we can’t replace the people who are gone.

So your friends crews have found hundreds of bodies of people that have been unreported as deceased or missing? I’m confused


This is a disaster porn post and is part of a huge problem during this event. People posting exaggerated things that cause the overall impact to become murky and hard to understand the scope of.

Hey bro. Go see it for yourself. No one is doing anything like that. It’s just being VERY underreported by the media. Ive seen the body bags myself. So I’d suggest you stop whitewashing this tragedy. One could argue you are doing the same thing but the other side of the coin

I have bro. Thanks for the suggestion

Edit. Where is your info coming from it’s underreported by the hundreds that have been claimed on this board?

I was in the nc area north of Burnsville on 197 and was interacting with the cadaver
Dogs and guys running sonar. I saw the body bags

[AppDub]

I have family and co- workers throughout Western NC and have been there myself multiple times since the storm. FEMA was no where to be seen until at least 4 days after the storm.

[pop5app]

I live in Vilas along Old 421. Cove creek ravaged the valley. I have seen nothing but a fantastic coordinated effort by volunteers, blue ridge electric, cable cos, DOT , law enforcement, emergency personnel and FEMA. From day one it has been a great effort by all. We are already seeing much improvement. I quit bitching and rolled my sleeves up with everyone else out here.

FEMA was not there on day one. Many others were. Stop lying

Do not call me a liar!

[Bootsy]

I'm not sure it matters if FEMA was/wasn't there on the first day, but regular folks were there. It's been awesome watching folks jump in to help one another, regardless of their beliefs or political affiliations. And that is a beautiful thing in the midst of the tragedy and disaster Helene has wrought.

[hapapp]

Of course it does. Get ahead of it and you control the narrative, then prioritizing your citizens shows we are doing what is necessary to provide for our own.

I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

I'm certain you personally have not!

Obviously I haven't. I'm sure folks are frustrated as would anyone in that situation but there has been no evidence to suggest that what the government is doing in other areas as hampered the response here.

If you don’t know personally maybe you should stop posting lest your
Ideological
Ignorance show through

I made no mention of the response to WNC. My comments had nothing to do with the specific job FEMA was doing in the area. But, please don't suggest that this whole relief effort has been politicized by people on the left when there is a guy in a red tie who continues to perpetuate lie after lie about the resources FEMA has at its disposal. This is a devastatingly tragic event that needs not be political. As I acknowledged, I'm not in position to judge the timeliness or effectiveness of the relief effort but it seems clear that everyone's experience is different and I doubt you can speak for everyone in the region.

[Seattleapp]

I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

I'm certain you personally have not!

Obviously I haven't. I'm sure folks are frustrated as would anyone in that situation but there has been no evidence to suggest that what the government is doing in other areas as hampered the response here.

If you don’t know personally maybe you should stop posting lest your
Ideological
Ignorance show through

I made no mention of the response to WNC. My comments had nothing to do with the specific job FEMA was doing in the area. But, please don't suggest that this whole relief effort has been politicized by people on the left when there is a guy in a red tie who continues to perpetuate lie after lie about the resources FEMA has at its disposal. This is a devastatingly tragic event that needs not be political. As I acknowledged, I'm not in position to judge the timeliness or effectiveness of the relief effort but it seems clear that everyone's experience is different and I doubt you can speak for everyone in the region.

I’ve been all over the region. You don’t like the guy in the red tie so you are gonna go hard the other way and Prop up fema’s response and normally I would do care but you are taking the wrong stance now. You may not like that guy which is fine but pushing your own falsehood just to counter him makes you look like a typical politics over everything hack. And if that red tie was in office currently you’d be agreeing g with my posts. Again, I’ve seen a large area of wnc and East Tenn over the past 10 days. I don’t care what either side is saying. What I do care about is saying what I’ve seen and haven’t seen personally and that’s the actual truth

[Seattleapp]

I live in Vilas along Old 421. Cove creek ravaged the valley. I have seen nothing but a fantastic coordinated effort by volunteers, blue ridge electric, cable cos, DOT , law enforcement, emergency personnel and FEMA. From day one it has been a great effort by all. We are already seeing much improvement. I quit bitching and rolled my sleeves up with everyone else out here.

FEMA was not there on day one. Many others were. Stop lying

Do not call me a liar!

Well then don’t lie. It’s pretty simple. I’m glad your community and you are pulling together to help one another and if I could I’d shake your hand for that but I’m not going to allow falsehoods regarding fema
To be spread by those who have a different agenda. The bottom line is nationally no one cares about poor rural folks in Appalachia. They just don’t.

[Rick83]

We've had some discussion I know about the economic fallout from this especially in the tourism industry. People's livelihoods are destroyed. These businesses employ people that they'll have to layoff. This popped up from a travel site:

North Carolina's Great Smoky Mountains Desperate for Business After Hurricane

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/n ... 582c&ei=24