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Unread post by DoubleA » Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:19 pm

[i]Sixteen players from North Carolina's 2005 national championship team issued the following statement Friday responding to former teammate Rashad McCants' allegations of academic misconduct:
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Interesting that Mary the Whistle Blower says five players on the 2005 National Championship team took a total of 51 independent study and/or no-show lecture classes. That works out to about 10 classes each, or about 25% of credit hours needed for a degree. Are you kidding me??

Apparently the Indianapolis Star ran a story on Shawn May about four years ago, where 'May said he started as a double major with communications, but dropped it so he could graduate faster after leaving for the NBA. Afro-American and African studies, May said, offered "more independent electives, independent study. I could take a lot of classes during the season. Communications, I had to be there in the actual classroom. We just made sure all the classes I had to take, I could take during the summer."'

Don't you hate it when you have to actually show up for class. How inconvenient!

Read more here: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/iteam/an- ... rylink=cpy

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Unread post by appdaze » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:41 pm

So McCants is not a reliable source because hes nuts and crazy and blah blah blah.........but hes smart enough to make the Deans list for a semester? These guys have been cheating for years and I promise you they aren't the only ones. They just happen to be the ones to get caught. Lie others have mentioned I just think this adds fuel to the fire for those large conferences that are ready to rid themselves of the NCAA restrictions and turn college sports in to semi-pro athletics.

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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:58 am

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WVAPPeer wrote:Agreed - nothing else will happen to them ---
I agree. UNC-CHeat will get away with this scott free. They have perpetrated the most egregious academic fraud in the history of college sports and they will walk away clean because of who they are. All the while, App serves a postseason ban for academic shortcomings. The NCAA is a joke.
Keep in mind, the NCAA said UNC's situation is strictly an "academic matter." Yet, App serves a postseason ban for poor academic grades. Unreal bull$$$$.
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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:00 am

moehler wrote:well, I wouldn't say they got off scotch free. growing up in NC, I heard almost daily from Carolina fans that the thing which separated them from other schools, was the "Carolina Way", a code of honor that Carolina alumi, present students, including athletes never cheat, never took short cuts, and always act in the most honorable way possible. It was this code that alumi proudly held over the heads of other schools, especially NC schools. It was the one thing in their minds that separated them from everyone else. Now, the thing they hold most dear, is gone forever, they have had to face the facts that they are no better than State, Wake, App, or even ECU. I guarantee this hurts the alumi alot more than any sanctions the NCAA could administer.
Yeah, they don't care anymore. Almost every UNC fan I've discussed this with uses the "everyone-else-does-it" excuse. They are admitting, perhaps unintentionally, that UNC is no better than anyone else.
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Unread post by 24AppState » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:35 am

The "It happens everywhere" excuse is what gets me.

In one breath, there's no way it happens here at Chapel Hill, that is not the Carolina Way. In the 2nd breath, "what's the big deal, it happen everywhere."

The baby blues know the truth, but refuse to believe it. They are sweating this out for sure. Unfortunately, like always they will get off free. They will take the same course of action they always do. They deny it until the media lays off, and it is "forgotten about." I think it is funny that they think the topic should be dropped since the other players from the '05 team came out and said it's not true. Think about that for a second. Do you really think the other players are going to come out and say it's true? Are they really going to agree with Rashad and more than likely give up their national championship? Most of these guys don't play basketball anymore, and were more than likely hired by a boss who believed they were legit graduates of UNC-CH. So to come out and say what Rashad says is true, would discredit all of their "accomplishments" as well. Possibly putting their careers in jeopardy. Fingers crossed that they finally get what is coming to them.

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Unread post by 8993 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:17 am

Is there not a way for us to contact the NCAA and voice our concerns? I have been searching the NCAA website and cannot find a place to email or call and it not be about season tickets to the university of your choice.

The NCAA is a joke now. To put a post-season ban on Appalachian for sub-par grades is one thing. To completely overlook the fact that UNC has been making up classes and letting their student-athletes skate by so they can compete is another thing. If the NCAA lets them off the hook while they continue to reprimand every other "smaller" school, then they have lost all credibility in my mind.

I can't stand UNC. The fact that they consider themselves "THE" University of North Carolina makes me want to puke.

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Unread post by Gonzo » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:53 am

I must say the latest is a brilliant move by the Holes. They have a letter signed by all the teammates, knowing full well that those players can't read.

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Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:08 pm

Gonzo wrote:I must say the latest is a brilliant move by the Holes. They have a letter signed by all the teammates, knowing full well that those players can't read.
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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:04 pm

moehler wrote:yep, another embarrassment, but you guys are right, the NCAA will not touch them, nor will anyone at the state level. Whats really funny is McCants actually made the honor roll one semester based on his bogus grades.
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Unread post by AppGrad1 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:06 pm

Gonzo wrote:I must say the latest is a brilliant move by the Holes. They have a letter signed by all the teammates, knowing full well that those players can't read.
These guys say Hello...
Tyler Zeller = Academic All American of the Year for 2 Years.
Marcus Paige = 2nd Team Academic All American.

Your turn now...

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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:10 pm

AppinVA wrote:Image

Here you go, AppGrad. I know you've always wanted one. And just like your heroes, you didn't have to attend one single class there to obtain one.

Just like countless others who were actually on campus supposedly working toward a degree.

Woops, I just now realized I had skipped yet another post which said the same thing I was. Apologies.
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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:12 pm

I'll make this one last post on this topic and then stop. I promise.

I'm not even one bit surprised that these things over the last several months have happened. But, I am shocked that they ever saw the light of day. Can't help but wonder what else has gone on and how many other sports were involved.
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Unread post by appst89 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:35 pm

AppGrad1 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:I must say the latest is a brilliant move by the Holes. They have a letter signed by all the teammates, knowing full well that those players can't read.
These guys say Hello...
Tyler Zeller = Academic All American of the Year for 2 Years.
Marcus Paige = 2nd Team Academic All American.

Your turn now...
Well, what would you expect when all the grades are fabrications?

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Unread post by 24AppState » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:36 pm

"These guys say Hello...
Tyler Zeller = Academic All American of the Year for 2 Years.
Marcus Paige = 2nd Team Academic All American.

Your turn now..."


Well....Rashad did make the Dean's List.....

App grads who bleed blue, make me sick.

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Unread post by scatman77 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:47 pm

NewApp wrote:
AppinVA wrote:Image

Here you go, AppGrad. I know you've always wanted one. And just like your heroes, you didn't have to attend one single class there to obtain one.

Just like countless others who were actually on campus supposedly working toward a degree.

Woops, I just now realized I had skipped yet another post which said the same thing I was. Apologies.
OK...it's old but I couldn't resist.......
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Unread post by appbio91 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:55 pm

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03/24/ ... demic.html

Michael McAdoo and Bryan Bishop say hello as well. I hope the link works. Page down to the you tube video.

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Unread post by appbio91 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:59 pm

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... 5247,d.aWw

Just for fun here is another nice hello.

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Unread post by ASUPATCH » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:11 pm

AppGrad1 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:I must say the latest is a brilliant move by the Holes. They have a letter signed by all the teammates, knowing full well that those players can't read.
These guys say Hello...
Tyler Zeller = Academic All American of the Year for 2 Years.
Marcus Paige = 2nd Team Academic All American.

Your turn now...

No way....two kids on a basketball team that appear to actually be there for education as well as sports. Pinch me....im dreaming. I am truly proud that the flagship has two kids over the past 6 years of the program that care about their education. SMH
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:35 pm

I'm not a Carolina fan - far from it - but, as sad as this statement is I will stick with it --- It might be a blessing that Dean is not in a state of mind to have to comprehend what has happened to his beloved university and his basketball program ---
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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:44 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:I'm not a Carolina fan - far from it - but, as sad as this statement is I will stick with it --- It might be a blessing that Dean is not in a state of mind to have to comprehend what has happened to his beloved university and his basketball program ---
Yep, but this kind of stuff could have been happening when Dean was there, too. Maybe it just didn't see the light of day. Who knows. This kind of thing just doesn't pop up all of a sudden.
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