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Re: 2025 App Transfers

Unread post by AppWyo » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:09 pm

311neers wrote:
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I don’t understand why we lose so many kids (non NIL money involved) after 1 year on campus. Are we telling kids something during recruiting and then doing the opposite when they’re on campus? Kids should know what they’re walking into….unless they don’t actually know.
No one told them that the Sun went down in October and did not come up again until April.

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Unread post by agentpaul001 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:21 am

Obviously would love Abson back in a heartbeat.

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Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:41 am

A small skeptical part of me thinks that some guys enter the Portal simply because of ego or people in their ears. Seems like most are probably absolutely fine where they are but for whatever reason they must see greener pastures. It has really gotten ridiculous. People thought that sit a year rule was bad. Maybe it had some merits.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:59 am

I'd love to see a break down of percentages for each of the following groups:

- Players that transfer up a level (15%)
- Players that transfer down a level (10%)
- Players getting bad advice, ultimately don't have options they deem worthy and quit playing (50%)
- Players using the portal as a social media exit vs. a silent exit and stop playing (25%, 40% for football)

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:49 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:41 am
A small skeptical part of me thinks that some guys enter the Portal simply because of ego or people in their ears. Seems like most are probably absolutely fine where they are but for whatever reason they must see greener pastures. It has really gotten ridiculous. People thought that sit a year rule was bad. Maybe it had some merits.
I know of a few cases where that is absolutely what happened. Many times these NIL agents tell a player he is worth way more than reality and they enter the portal. Brendan Harrington is one of those who was told his NIL value was way higher than it actually was.

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Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:19 am

Some agents think in short term parameters while others think about the long game...
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Unread post by WASU 93 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:40 pm

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:41 am
A small skeptical part of me thinks that some guys enter the Portal simply because of ego or people in their ears. Seems like most are probably absolutely fine where they are but for whatever reason they must see greener pastures. It has really gotten ridiculous. People thought that sit a year rule was bad. Maybe it had some merits.
These players hear (and play for) a lot of voices in the AAU ranks. I'm sure there are people in some players ears telling them they should be starring/starting/playing more. Just like many high schoolers have parents who think they should be starters, I'm sure their are parents that are talking to players, negotiating conversations, etc.

We are in a total rebuild again next year. Hopefully, we can find a core with talent that wants to be in Boone for a few years.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:18 pm

Some players are encouraged to look elsewhere.

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Unread post by 311neers » Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:24 pm

Is CJ Huntley (and maybe Donovan) the only high school recruit to make it past their junior year for us recently? Seems like most, if not all HS recruits leave after Freshman year. Wilson is the lone example to return.
Makes what CJ did even more impressive. Kudos to that man!

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:29 am

Basketball is more extreme than football. You can’t look for players who want to stay multiple years. You have to look for the players who will give you the best chance to win on a yearly basis. With the limited spots, we can’t afford to have players on scholarship who are not viewed as a piece of the puzzle.

Now, what if there are players who want to stay multiple seasons and will help you win multiple seasons but are disenfranchised by the leader?

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Unread post by BallantyneApp » Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:41 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:29 am
Basketball is more extreme than football. You can’t look for players who want to stay multiple years. You have to look for the players who will give you the best chance to win on a yearly basis. With the limited spots, we can’t afford to have players on scholarship who are not viewed as a piece of the puzzle.

Now, what if there are players who want to stay multiple seasons and will help you win multiple seasons but are disenfranchised by the leader?
Well I hope they would be honest in their exit interview. I don’t see Kerns being fired though unless he really falls off a cliff.

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:06 am

BallantyneApp wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:41 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:29 am
Basketball is more extreme than football. You can’t look for players who want to stay multiple years. You have to look for the players who will give you the best chance to win on a yearly basis. With the limited spots, we can’t afford to have players on scholarship who are not viewed as a piece of the puzzle.

Now, what if there are players who want to stay multiple seasons and will help you win multiple seasons but are disenfranchised by the leader?
Well I hope they would be honest in their exit interview. I don’t see Kerns being fired though unless he really falls off a cliff.
He won’t be and he absolutely shouldn’t be. I just ponder if there will be some evolution as a coach or if this is just something we as fans have to live with for the good that he brings. Every coach has positives and negatives. I believe Kerns positives far out weighs the negatives but the negatives can’t be ignored either when they keep showing up.

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Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:16 am

I find it hard to believe that some of these guys who move from school to school seemingly every year actually maintain their grades and credits. I really have nothing to base this on except for the smell test. Saw a little bit of a late afternoon game yesterday and I think I saw the big dude who played at Ark State then Miami. He’s at his 3rd (at least) school now.

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:47 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:16 am
I find it hard to believe that some of these guys who move from school to school seemingly every year actually maintain their grades and credits. I really have nothing to base this on except for the smell test. Saw a little bit of a late afternoon game yesterday and I think I saw the big dude who played at Ark State then Miami. He’s at his 3rd (at least) school now.
You are right and the “student”-athlete is at the mercy of the institution. Without a degree, every credit is on the chopping block when you transfer. Most schools have, let’s just call them low-level, programs to bypass this now to ensure all credits transfer but sometimes a player has to bet on himself and give up credits.

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:54 am

As an example, JMU is a good educational institution amongst our peers. However, they have a program called “The School of Professional and Continuing Education”. What is that? You tell me because their website is a bunch of jargon. It looks like filler classes to me.

https://www.jmu.edu/pce/index.shtml

I’m not saying that to bash JMU (well, yes I am actually) because every school likely has a program like this now that can be a catch-all for transfer athletes if their original course of study does not completely transfer.

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Unread post by AppGrad20 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:50 am

Might be a blessing in disguise that we ended the season poorly.

Virginia just fired their interim head coach. Kerns would be a perfect fit there. Such a similar style to Tony Bennett. Probably would’ve been one of the top candidates had we finished the season strong.

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Unread post by BallantyneApp » Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:57 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:54 am
As an example, JMU is a good educational institution amongst our peers. However, they have a program called “The School of Professional and Continuing Education”. What is that? You tell me because their website is a bunch of jargon. It looks like filler classes to me.

https://www.jmu.edu/pce/index.shtml

I’m not saying that to bash JMU (well, yes I am actually) because every school likely has a program like this now that can be a catch-all for transfer athletes if their original course of study does not completely transfer.
I do find it sad that now everyone is participating in the SEC/UNC-Ch fake classes.

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Unread post by PhillyApp1 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:01 pm

BallantyneApp wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:57 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:54 am
As an example, JMU is a good educational institution amongst our peers. However, they have a program called “The School of Professional and Continuing Education”. What is that? You tell me because their website is a bunch of jargon. It looks like filler classes to me.

https://www.jmu.edu/pce/index.shtml

I’m not saying that to bash JMU (well, yes I am actually) because every school likely has a program like this now that can be a catch-all for transfer athletes if their original course of study does not completely transfer.
I do find it sad that now everyone is participating in the SEC/UNC-Ch fake classes.
It been going on for decades at most universities except for a few.

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Unread post by DenverOfTheEast » Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:24 pm

AppGrad20 wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:50 am
Might be a blessing in disguise that we ended the season poorly.

Virginia just fired their interim head coach. Kerns would be a perfect fit there. Such a similar style to Tony Bennett. Probably would’ve been one of the top candidates had we finished the season strong.
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