NIT

[KentHogan]

Just out of curiosity I wonder how many people here who are staunchly opposed to a G5 football championship are on board with us playing in the NIT?

I don't think that's an apples to apples comparison. The NIT has existed alongside the NCAA tournament for a long time. I think, if one is to make a football analogy, the NIT is more like playing in a bowl game if you don't make the CFP than it is a championship for a separate classification.

I'm sure there are different ways to look at it. The NIT was a significant tournament for many years. I count at least 14 power schools in it. I never understand when a coach/school declines an invitation with the weak explanation that "we are going to prepare for next season". If you are butt hurt about being left out of the Big Dance that's fine but that's a weak excuse. The only power teams that get "snubbed" are the ones who generally had 10+ losses and probably finished with bad conference records.

There could be a myriad of reasons why a team would forego the NIT. Saying that you are focused on next season could be a way to save face publicly. It does seem weak and a bit arrogant but it could be a situation where some teams are going to have guys that want to enter the portal and would forego playing in the NIT. Having gotten granular with App football over the years, I have learned that not everything explained is as it seems.

They’re likely not playing because they want to work on the portal and NIL deals rather actually play a game. Sad.

But we all knew this type stuff would happen as NIL continues to change college sports in a bad way.

Bowl games are already suffering greatly from a long list of players who transfer before the bowl game is played.

It’s all about the money now, not the team or the game.

Just my opinion. Go App!

[Bigdaddyg1]

Just out of curiosity I wonder how many people here who are staunchly opposed to a G5 football championship are on board with us playing in the NIT?

I don't think that's an apples to apples comparison. The NIT has existed alongside the NCAA tournament for a long time. I think, if one is to make a football analogy, the NIT is more like playing in a bowl game if you don't make the CFP than it is a championship for a separate classification.

I'm sure there are different ways to look at it. The NIT was a significant tournament for many years. I count at least 14 power schools in it. I never understand when a coach/school declines an invitation with the weak explanation that "we are going to prepare for next season". If you are butt hurt about being left out of the Big Dance that's fine but that's a weak excuse. The only power teams that get "snubbed" are the ones who generally had 10+ losses and probably finished with bad conference records.

There could be a myriad of reasons why a team would forego the NIT. Saying that you are focused on next season could be a way to save face publicly. It does seem weak and a bit arrogant but it could be a situation where some teams are going to have guys that want to enter the portal and would forego playing in the NIT. Having gotten granular with App football over the years, I have learned that not everything explained is as it seems.

They’re likely not playing because they want to work on the portal and NIL deals rather actually play a game. Sad.

But we all knew this type stuff would happen as NIL continues to change college sports in a bad way.

Bowl games are already suffering greatly from a long list of players who transfer before the bowl game is played.

It’s all about the money now, not the team or the game.

Just my opinion. Go App!

Pitt had a good team. They probably deserved to be in the tournament- so did we, so did Wake, so did a few others. It's a crappy system but it is what it is. Every team carries enough players to go compete. If you end up with an assist coach, 2 starters, 2 reserves and 3 walk ons go play. NCAA screwed up by opening the portal now. Every graduating senior isn't moving on to a professional career. I have no idea what goes through the head of a guy or lady who has played ball for probably close to 15 or more at some levels and now it could be over but I'd be willing to bet that a great majority of them would opt into playing at least one more game.
My youngest boys played baseball from t-ball to high school. They lost a season for Covid and actually played a month of their senior season after graduation. They made it to the playoffs and lost the first game. I cried when it was over as I knew the reality. One of my boys asked me to play catch with him on the field for a couple of minutes. That was special. All that being said if a team opts out of playing any additional games especially for the reasons mentioned that's one of the worst things I've heard in sports.

[AppSt94]

I'm 107 row M on the end towards 106

106 Row H on the 107 side.

[AppSt94]

I don't think that's an apples to apples comparison. The NIT has existed alongside the NCAA tournament for a long time. I think, if one is to make a football analogy, the NIT is more like playing in a bowl game if you don't make the CFP than it is a championship for a separate classification.

I'm sure there are different ways to look at it. The NIT was a significant tournament for many years. I count at least 14 power schools in it. I never understand when a coach/school declines an invitation with the weak explanation that "we are going to prepare for next season". If you are butt hurt about being left out of the Big Dance that's fine but that's a weak excuse. The only power teams that get "snubbed" are the ones who generally had 10+ losses and probably finished with bad conference records.

There could be a myriad of reasons why a team would forego the NIT. Saying that you are focused on next season could be a way to save face publicly. It does seem weak and a bit arrogant but it could be a situation where some teams are going to have guys that want to enter the portal and would forego playing in the NIT. Having gotten granular with App football over the years, I have learned that not everything explained is as it seems.

They’re likely not playing because they want to work on the portal and NIL deals rather actually play a game. Sad.

But we all knew this type stuff would happen as NIL continues to change college sports in a bad way.

Bowl games are already suffering greatly from a long list of players who transfer before the bowl game is played.

It’s all about the money now, not the team or the game.

Just my opinion. Go App!

Pitt had a good team. They probably deserved to be in the tournament- so did we, so did Wake, so did a few others. It's a crappy system but it is what it is. Every team carries enough players to go compete. If you end up with an assist coach, 2 starters, 2 reserves and 3 walk ons go play. NCAA screwed up by opening the portal now. Every graduating senior isn't moving on to a professional career. I have no idea what goes through the head of a guy or lady who has played ball for probably close to 15 or more at some levels and now it could be over but I'd be willing to bet that a great majority of them would opt into playing at least one more game.
My youngest boys played baseball from t-ball to high school. They lost a season for Covid and actually played a month of their senior season after graduation. They made it to the playoffs and lost the first game. I cried when it was over as I knew the reality. One of my boys asked me to play catch with him on the field for a couple of minutes. That was special. All that being said if a team opts out of playing any additional games especially for the reasons mentioned that's one of the worst things I've heard in sports.

Speaking of Pitt. I caught some of their game in the ACC tourney. They were interviewing Capel and all I can think of was watching him play as a sophomore at Southview High School. Man I feel old.

[teaasu76]

Just took a closer look at the brackets. App has the second best record, Ind. St. has one more win and same number of losses. Only Princeton has fewer losses. Let's do this!!!!

[appvette]

We're also the second biggest underdogs based on betting lines at +8.5. Only Cornell / Ohio State are higher at 10.5.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/ncaab?tab=nit

[app97]

Just took a closer look at the brackets. App has the second best record, Ind. St. has one more win and same number of losses. Only Princeton has fewer losses. Let's do this!!!!

not to be the negative Nancy, but we also didn't play in the ACC, Big 12, SEC, etc
WF is uber talented and will pose multiple matchup issues. They have a 6'5" point guard who is one of the best players in the NCAA (Gonzaga transfer), a 7 footer down low (also Gonzaga transfer), a couple 6'11" dudes who can play, and 2 starting wings who are very talented. Every player in their starting 5 averages between 10 and 18 points per game.

I hope our strong defense will keep us in the game, along with disciplined offense to limit turnovers.

[biggie]

We're also the second biggest underdogs based on betting lines at +8.5. Only Cornell / Ohio State are higher at 10.5.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/ncaab?tab=nit

I just had to go throw a little on us it was +7.5 on DraftKings.

[Bigdaddyg1]

The obvious concern is not having played in over a week. Did the team continue to practice assuming that we get into a tournament? Did the senior guys mentally check out after the disappointing loss? Hopefully we recharged and come out firing. Gotta avoid one of those 14-2 type starts.

[hapapp]

Just took a closer look at the brackets. App has the second best record, Ind. St. has one more win and same number of losses. Only Princeton has fewer losses. Let's do this!!!!

not to be the negative Nancy, but we also didn't play in the ACC, Big 12, SEC, etc
WF is uber talented and will pose multiple matchup issues. They have a 6'5" point guard who is one of the best players in the NCAA (Gonzaga transfer), a 7 footer down low (also Gonzaga transfer), a couple 6'11" dudes who can play, and 2 starting wings who are very talented. Every player in their starting 5 averages between 10 and 18 points per game.

I hope our strong defense will keep us in the game, along with disciplined offense to limit turnovers.

This will be a game where we won't have the size advantage inside. We are certainly a better team than last year but they are as well. They're 16-1 home. We'll have to play our best in this one, no repeat of our tournament performance.

[Captain Morgan]

kudo to those going! We're like 0 for 20 against them or something. Just found out we did beat Duke in 1981, which probably led them to hire K!

[biggie]

kudo to those going! We're like 0 for 20 against them or something. Just found out we did beat Duke in 1981, which probably led them to hire K!

0-21 and 2022 hurt just like our last game.

[hapapp]

I wonder how they did the match ups. It does appear that most of them are regional in nature, though some like Princeton-UNLV don't fit the mold. If the match ups were based on seeding, App playing a #1 seed suggests we were one of the last four teams in the tournament. Which begs the question, if all those P6 teams hadn't bailed would we be in the NIT?

[AppSt94]

Just took a closer look at the brackets. App has the second best record, Ind. St. has one more win and same number of losses. Only Princeton has fewer losses. Let's do this!!!!

not to be the negative Nancy, but we also didn't play in the ACC, Big 12, SEC, etc
WF is uber talented and will pose multiple matchup issues. They have a 6'5" point guard who is one of the best players in the NCAA (Gonzaga transfer), a 7 footer down low (also Gonzaga transfer), a couple 6'11" dudes who can play, and 2 starting wings who are very talented. Every player in their starting 5 averages between 10 and 18 points per game.

I hope our strong defense will keep us in the game, along with disciplined offense to limit turnovers.

They are loaded with talent among the starting five but they lack depth.

[hapapp]

kudo to those going! We're like 0 for 20 against them or something. Just found out we did beat Duke in 1981, which probably led them to hire K!

He was the coach. In was the 81-82 season.

[AppStFan1]

Just took a closer look at the brackets. App has the second best record, Ind. St. has one more win and same number of losses. Only Princeton has fewer losses. Let's do this!!!!

not to be the negative Nancy, but we also didn't play in the ACC, Big 12, SEC, etc
WF is uber talented and will pose multiple matchup issues. They have a 6'5" point guard who is one of the best players in the NCAA (Gonzaga transfer), a 7 footer down low (also Gonzaga transfer), a couple 6'11" dudes who can play, and 2 starting wings who are very talented. Every player in their starting 5 averages between 10 and 18 points per game.

I hope our strong defense will keep us in the game, along with disciplined offense to limit turnovers.

This is a game we could win but could lose by 10 or so as well. This is a big test for us. They are the best team we will have played this year next to Auburn.

[appgrad95&97]

We're also the second biggest underdogs based on betting lines at +8.5. Only Cornell / Ohio State are higher at 10.5.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/ncaab?tab=nit

I just had to go throw a little on us it was +7.5 on DraftKings.

Sucker, I got us +8

[biggie]

We're also the second biggest underdogs based on betting lines at +8.5. Only Cornell / Ohio State are higher at 10.5.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/ncaab?tab=nit

I just had to go throw a little on us it was +7.5 on DraftKings.

Sucker, I got us +8

If we win it won't matter.

[appgrad95&97]

We're also the second biggest underdogs based on betting lines at +8.5. Only Cornell / Ohio State are higher at 10.5.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/ncaab?tab=nit

I just had to go throw a little on us it was +7.5 on DraftKings.

Sucker, I got us +8

If we win it won't matter.

Lol, I'm waiting for the money line to open for just that reason!

[Captain Morgan]

kudo to those going! We're like 0 for 20 against them or something. Just found out we did beat Duke in 1981, which probably led them to hire K!

He was the coach. In was the 81-82 season.

well what do you know about that!