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MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:10 pm
by T-Dog
First, let's all calm down.



Ever since Saturday, there's a lot of whining about the 1-2 start, KenPom/NET rankings, beating teams by a certain amount and a good amount of "we should win comfortably" out there in the podcast university. And then we lost our ass in San Marcos. Now those things don't matter much. Did y'all translate "Juego de trampa" ? It means "trap game" in Spanish, or at least that's what Google Translate tells me. Lo siento, no habla español.

Had a bad feeling about this one when after Statesboro, Kerns said the team emptied the tank for that one. Empty the tank, bus to Boone, then turnaround and fly to southwest Texas. The trappings were there and were sprung. As such, App State is now 0-2 when trying to win a 9th game in a row, which is weird that it happened twice.



With Troy beating a Marshall team that refused to make shots, App State is in a tie for first place and right now would be a No. 2 seed in Pensacola, playing No. 3 JMU in the semis. The only good news is that with Marshall and Louisiana losing, the Top 4 is a bit separated from the rest, so the odds of that double bye are better. Always look up.

Now we take a detour into the Sun Belt/MAC Challenge, bringing back memories another not-good App performance back in November in Dekalb. Regardless of that, this game is No. 2 vs No. 2. This time, the Toledo Rockets come to Boone and Holmes Sweet Holmes.

Here's an amateur scouting report from last week on this very message board. Not in mood for a Holy Toledo.

It's a bit obvious looking at Toledo's scores that they score points. They lead the MAC in scoring at 79.7 points per game and have four players averaging 10+ points a game. FG% is 48%, tops in the MAC, but they give up 48.7%, 11th in the MAC. They're decent at 3-point % but don't actually make a ton of em. They do shoot from the line well, 76% as a team.

Defense is third from last in the MAC, are 11th in the MAC in rebounds, dead last in defensive rebounds and give up rebounds.

No common opponents, although they beat Louisiana and Marshall both at home. The Rockets are 6-3 on the road, with both their MAC losses on the road. Their 0-3 trip to Vegas doesn't look as bad now as both New Mexico and Indiana State are really damn good.

Also important is that they played Tuesday is Ypsilanti, pulling out a tough win before travelling southeast.

Does this game mean much in the grand scheme of things? Maybe not, but with Marshall and Louisiana coming to Boone next week and an undefeated home court record this season, it means something. Always does. Plus, we only are guaranteed eight more games (seven regular season, one Sun Belt tourney game) of hoping for greater glory. It's all still in reach. Just gotta take some stairs.

Buy tickets here. Only $15 per seat. Buy Buy Buy and Show Up Show Up Show Up.

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:25 pm
by biggie
I hope to make it up. Depends on kids soccer game time.

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:39 am
by BambooRdApp
App. St. by 3

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:50 am
by hapapp
Obviously a big game to begin with but, it takes greater significance now. Did the last two games display a chink in the armor? Or just reflective of a tiring road trip at this point of the season?

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:17 am
by Bigdaddyg1
The double bye is huge. Just win out!!

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:35 am
by mike87
20th win comes at Holmes. Big celebration, increased interest and future ticket sales. Kerns playing the long game. I'll be there.

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:20 am
by A2534
I'll be there! Look forward to seeing the 20th win!

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:12 pm
by Uoftoledofans
This should be a doozy. Toledo had a sleepy Tuesday night probably looking ahead here. I expect a close game like UTs vs. the other good midmajors on the schedule. App by 3 to 9 pts. Rebounding will be an issue for Toledo. But lots of points will be scored.

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:38 pm
by biggie
I do get to make my first game this season. Hopefully I’m not bad luck.

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:35 am
by spacemonkey
Looking back over the season....It seems we have trouble with teams that have good defensive guards. When we can't penetrate we seem to stall. (That's what she said).

Troy and Texas State have strong guard play. Tough guys that push through screens and play solid D!!!!!!!!!!

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:01 am
by BambooRdApp
I agree with that assessment. We have not been a true traditional idea of playing inside to outside in Kerns entire tenure at App. St. It has been more guard penetration...we pass when off guard/forward comes to help. With both Troy and Tx St, they did not have to help .There is much to love a out our center, however, he is not the passer out of the post....but he is still young..

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:27 am
by BambooRdApp
It's GameDay!! Let's Go App. St.!!

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:26 pm
by 311neers
Hope to see a good crowd today! Players deserve it. Although, I have a feeling that some might tune out until the conference tourney since it’s a 1 bid league.

Go 1-0, pack Holmes and make it tough for ToLLLLLLLLLedo!

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:09 pm
by 311neers
Abson 30’ away from the rim is no good. 2 turnovers to start- please put Tate in.

Edit- 3 turnovers. 4 possessions.

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:11 pm
by 311neers
Congrats to Abson! Single season block record. And still counting!

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:22 pm
by Bigdaddyg1
Sometimes it's ok to foul the other guys to prevent an easy layup

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:23 pm
by 311neers
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:22 pm
Sometimes it's ok to foul the other guys to prevent an easy layup
Excellent foul. I’m fine with the foul just to get to a timeout if Kerns isn’t going to call one, sheesh.

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:29 pm
by 311neers
MARSH MADNESS!

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:31 pm
by Bigdaddyg1
What a start with 2 key guys almost non-existent so far

Re: MBB vs Toledo, 1 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, Holmes Sweet Holmes, MAC/Sun Belt Challenge, be there

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:35 pm
by 311neers
Shooting 72% from the floor. Let’s keep that up, haha!