Not defending Capel but he already has some commitments for next year. I'm not saying that is a reason to keep him but he has been busy to a degree on that front. It would be interesting to see who the administration would make as the interim coach if they did start the second half of the season without Capel as coach. I see arguments on both sides of the issue but I would find it highly unlikely that would actually happen here.PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:i say go ahead and fire capel...why? well, he's not going to recruit anyone if he sees the writing on the wall...so you can kiss next year goodbye too if we wait too long.. people talk about paying his salary out...well, last i checked, the numbers at the games arent too stellar and if you win, you generate income for the program...you keep him going, you're losing more money...drop the shoe...adios. then again, maybe we need to ask the caroilna fan who had him hired to see what he wants to do next. also, go after an older coach...we will be a doorstep for any young coach and three and done could be all we get from a good young coach leaving us in limbo yet again...i wonder what houston fancher is doing...whatever you do, get a coach with character and fire...
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I agree to an extent, Jerry. What well qualified candidate would take a job replacing a coach who was fired mid-season?hapapp wrote:Not defending Capel but he already has some commitments for next year. I'm not saying that is a reason to keep him but he has been busy to a degree on that front. It would be interesting to see who the administration would make as the interim coach if they did start the second half of the season without Capel as coach. I see arguments on both sides of the issue but I would find it highly unlikely that would actually happen here.PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:i say go ahead and fire capel...why? well, he's not going to recruit anyone if he sees the writing on the wall...so you can kiss next year goodbye too if we wait too long.. people talk about paying his salary out...well, last i checked, the numbers at the games arent too stellar and if you win, you generate income for the program...you keep him going, you're losing more money...drop the shoe...adios. then again, maybe we need to ask the caroilna fan who had him hired to see what he wants to do next. also, go after an older coach...we will be a doorstep for any young coach and three and done could be all we get from a good young coach leaving us in limbo yet again...i wonder what houston fancher is doing...whatever you do, get a coach with character and fire...
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I'm not really convinced that any of our three assistants would be much of an upgrade over Capel. I assume Kummer would get the nod, but I believe we're asking for even more trouble if we get rid of him mid-season.
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The word "Kummer" should be enough of a reason no to fire Capel during the season.567app wrote:I'm not really convinced that any of our three assistants would be much of an upgrade over Capel. I assume Kummer would get the nod, but I believe we're asking for even more trouble if we get rid of him mid-season.
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Rep point.567app wrote:I'm not really convinced that any of our three assistants would be much of an upgrade over Capel. I assume Kummer would get the nod, but I believe we're asking for even more trouble if we get rid of him mid-season.
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Personally, I choose not to take an active part in a discussion such as this one - However, I see nothing wrong with it since ESPN and other sports outlets are always speculating who might be the next coach in every sport/level --- they were talking Saban and Texas at least a month ago 

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Salaries of interest from UNC System database...
Jason Capel $158,732
Bobby Lutz $227,700
Buzz Peterson $420,000
Even if Lutz has mellowed on his distaste for ASU, it would cost $240,000 to $250,000 plus all moving expenses to bring him in. We do, however, need a guy with Lutz's experience; with great energy and youthful exuberance; and with the grit and determination to build a program to fit ASU's facilities. You can read into that recruiting better players; teaching winning basketball fundamentals; building sound, hard working teams that fans want to pay to watch; and putting forth a likable image that draws interest wherever he happens to be. In other words, we need to find a youthful Bobby Cremins "type." That's a tall order. I wish we could lure Bob McKillop away from Davidson--but he'll never leave for any amount of $$$. He and his wife have found their permanent home.
The new head coach's first job would be to hang on to Capel's two recent signees...Kedrick Flomo and Rasheed Worrell.
Jason Capel $158,732
Bobby Lutz $227,700
Buzz Peterson $420,000
Even if Lutz has mellowed on his distaste for ASU, it would cost $240,000 to $250,000 plus all moving expenses to bring him in. We do, however, need a guy with Lutz's experience; with great energy and youthful exuberance; and with the grit and determination to build a program to fit ASU's facilities. You can read into that recruiting better players; teaching winning basketball fundamentals; building sound, hard working teams that fans want to pay to watch; and putting forth a likable image that draws interest wherever he happens to be. In other words, we need to find a youthful Bobby Cremins "type." That's a tall order. I wish we could lure Bob McKillop away from Davidson--but he'll never leave for any amount of $$$. He and his wife have found their permanent home.
The new head coach's first job would be to hang on to Capel's two recent signees...Kedrick Flomo and Rasheed Worrell.
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Did I mention that Buzz is significantly overpaid?
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Do you have a link to the UNC database? ---asu66 wrote:Did I mention that Buzz is significantly overpaid?
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Here are two, but neither are current. They both claim to be "2013", but the links are clearly dated. For instance, neither shows Scott Satterfield as a head coach.WVAPPeer wrote:Do you have a link to the UNC database? ---asu66 wrote:Did I mention that Buzz is significantly overpaid?
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/24/ ... aries.html
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/0 ... qoyBPRDuSo
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Thanks - I have not found a 2013 update either ---
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I don't want to make the effort to find Lutz's last contract with us, but I can tell you that until March 2014 that is about what we pay him every year on top of what NCSU and Iowa State before paid him. Lutz's total package with us four years ago was over a half-million bucks. I do not belive that money will be the most important factor to him, but I can't imagine him taking a job for anything under the $300,000 he can make as a BCS Associate Head Coach.asu66 wrote:Salaries of interest from UNC System database...
Jason Capel $158,732
Bobby Lutz $227,700
Buzz Peterson $420,000
Even if Lutz has mellowed on his distaste for ASU, it would cost $240,000 to $250,000 plus all moving expenses to bring him in. We do, however, need a guy with Lutz's experience; with great energy and youthful exuberance; and with the grit and determination to build a program to fit ASU's facilities. You can read into that recruiting better players; teaching winning basketball fundamentals; building sound, hard working teams that fans want to pay to watch; and putting forth a likable image that draws interest wherever he happens to be. In other words, we need to find a youthful Bobby Cremins "type." That's a tall order. I wish we could lure Bob McKillop away from Davidson--but he'll never leave for any amount of $$$. He and his wife have found their permanent home.
The new head coach's first job would be to hang on to Capel's two recent signees...Kedrick Flomo and Rasheed Worrell.
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10-4...I forgot he was still "under contract" at UNCC. I don't really think he'd come to ASU if we wanted him ever-so-badly--even $400,000 badly. He has indicated in the past that he doesn't like cold weather--but he did go to Iowa and survived. 

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gonna have to hit the hip as they say...mcliiop...happy??? why not...hes settled in...we need an experienced coach who is ready to put down roots...yes, i know thats what buck fuzz said...and ps....buck fuzz!
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Pearl is a crook, Petrino just made some bad personal choices.AppDawg wrote:It may not, but the way I look at it, if we ever have a legitimate thought of having a strong And relevant B-Ball program we have to think outside the state of NC box. If we don't we are no better than the 'ol Dannyboy and former WDDITWAA line of thinking. I look at Pearl as someone who needs a door opened for him to get back on the bench... it worked for Petrino at WKU, why not Pearl at App?fjblair wrote:AppDawg wrote:Add me to te Bruce Pearl fanclub. He would bring the energy and excitement our entire program desperately needs.
Bruce Pearl is not going to happen.
From a financial standpoint, I would hope we have been pocketing and saving the difference in dollars that were earmarked for "his name who shall not be mentioned" and Capel. Those funds should have been building over the last 4 years for the day we need to hire a real d1 B-ball coach.
All of that said, I do realize a Pearl probably would not be a long term solution, but at this point all I am looking for is someone to come in and lay 2 or 3 courses of a foundation.

I certainly hope App isn't desperate enough to hire someone as tainted as Pearl.
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Seriously? No way...Kgfish wrote: Pearl is a crook, Petrino just made some bad personal choices.
I'd put Pearl wayyyy above Petrino.
Pearl lied to NCAA investigators about a damn cookout at his house.
Petrino hired a a former volleyball player he was having an affair with as a student development coordinator... and then crashed a motorcycle they were both riding.
Hardly even comparable,imo... and Pearl looks better to me.
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skjellyfetti wrote:Seriously? No way...Kgfish wrote: Pearl is a crook, Petrino just made some bad personal choices.
I'd put Pearl wayyyy above Petrino.
Pearl lied to NCAA investigators about a damn cookout at his house.
Petrino hired a a former volleyball player he was having an affair with as a student development coordinator... and then crashed a motorcycle they were both riding.
Hardly even comparable,imo... and Pearl looks better to me.

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WHICH SCHOOL WITH A VISION WILL HIRE BRUCE PEARLskjellyfetti wrote:Seriously? No way...Kgfish wrote: Pearl is a crook, Petrino just made some bad personal choices.
I'd put Pearl wayyyy above Petrino.
Pearl lied to NCAA investigators about a damn cookout at his house.
Petrino hired a a former volleyball player he was having an affair with as a student development coordinator... and then crashed a motorcycle they were both riding.
Hardly even comparable,imo... and Pearl looks better to me.
Interesting article from CBSsports.com about Pearl's re-entry into collegiate basketball. Clearly that school would have to make a huge commitment to its basketball program...I don't recommend anyone holding their breath until he's relocated to ASU...but...I think he could right the ship in short order. He probably wouldn't want to get a reputation for following Buzz around.

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If we go the DII route, here is a someone that may be worth taking a look at - Josh Shertz.
http://lmurailsplitters.com/profile.asp?playerID=73
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Agreed 78 and anyone who actually thinks he would come to APP really seriously needs to get out of the house a little moreAppGrad78 wrote:Bruce Pearl is a snake oil salesman. We should expect better.

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