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Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:16 am
by bigdaddyg
appdaze wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 am
At this point you can't really think of college bball in four year time frames. It's down to two. You have two years with an athlete before they transfer for pt, declare/,go pro, get lured by any nil, or don't pan it and get relegated to the bench as you bring in new recruits and transfers. So to me, every two years is a rebuild now. This goes for everyone top to bottom, not just mid majors.
You are probably right. For Kerns he had to rebuild the roster after the 5-6 year dudes finally had no more PT. Those Covid years are about to be done everywhere. We lost all of those guys during the year and who knows which of the others will hang around. He might have to "rebuild " again this offseason.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:44 pm
by Stonewall
bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:41 am
Is there even such a thing as a "rebuilding year" anymore? To me that would mean you bring in 4-6 recruits, they either play a little, redshirt or sit. Then as sophomores they either crack the lineup or play big minutes off the bench. You hope that the veteran guys have stayed and the team develops. In reality you hope the good young guys don't get a big head and look to immediately transfer to a better deal where they expect immediate playing time. If your program is solid and your coach somehow brought in 3-4 studs those guys probably vamoose and coach has to reload from the portal. Wash, rinse and repeat. No rebuild except in terms of one year at a time.
That's the size of it .One year at a time and oh yeah ,USM,lAlA and MU are paying out big bucks in NIL .Look at the top of the standings ...
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
by AppSt12
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
by scatman77
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:59 pm
by AppStateNews
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
They don't have any Intel. Simply a troll.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:33 pm
by Saint3333
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
Or, hear me out, have the capacity to have more than one subject you’re able to discuss.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
by AppSt12
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac. His first 3 seasons he was given teams loaded with experience...and he went 4-12 vs teams that we were +/- 5pts favorite/underdog. Lost our first bowl game in a slaughter, 0 fer in the conference title department, failed to make a bowl in 2022 and hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Did beat Texas A&M and coached a GREAT game vs Coastal in 2021....outside of that....pathetic.
Where on Earth have you been. I dont have any inside intel? You dont need inside intel...just look at the results.
Good lord dude. Are you even a fan? Do you have dementia? This isnt revolutionary stuff....this is just what shawn clark has done. Everyone knows this. I was just saying dont get torn up over basketball. We are doing how we do...football however....lord help us.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:45 pm
by Saint3333
Whelp I guess that answers my statement.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:04 pm
by T-Dog
FWIW, No. 8 South Alabama just walloped No. 1 Southern Miss 78-61 to advance to the semis.
The Sun Belt regular season champion is now 0-3 in the conference tourney since it moved to Pensacola.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:11 pm
by hapapp
T-Dog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:04 pm
FWIW, No. 8 South Alabama just walloped No. 1 Southern Miss 78-61 to advance to the semis.
The Sun Belt regular season champion is now 0-3 in the conference tourney since it moved to Pensacola.
Actually a closer game than their regular season match up.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:13 pm
by AppStateNews
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac.
hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Clark was given the keys to a Cadillac with a pretty paint job but a failing engine. So, yes, while it's easy to see the pretty paint job, that's not what runs the Cadillac. It's the internal pieces that need a tune up and it's happening. Just needed the money to make it happen and he's getting more of it (still not enough, but enough for now).
Hasn't recruiting anyone? The top 6 highest rated recruits ever in program history have come from his recruiting. And all but one took a redshirt year to help balance the classes. It's almost there and we'll start seeing the talent this upcoming season. We have more individual talent than we've ever had.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:56 pm
by scatman77
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac. His first 3 seasons he was given teams loaded with experience...and he went 4-12 vs teams that we were +/- 5pts favorite/underdog. Lost our first bowl game in a slaughter, 0 fer in the conference title department, failed to make a bowl in 2022 and hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Did beat Texas A&M and coached a GREAT game vs Coastal in 2021....outside of that....pathetic.
Where on Earth have you been. I dont have any inside intel? You dont need inside intel...just look at the results.
Good lord dude. Are you even a fan? Do you have dementia? This isnt revolutionary stuff....this is just what shawn clark has done. Everyone knows this. I was just saying dont get torn up over basketball. We are doing how we do...football however....lord help us.
1) "Are you even a fan?" Yes, stood on the sidelines 1973-1978 and 81-82 as a student trainer. YC member, AFAA member, and unlike you I will not criticize our staff or players and especially not on a public forum. I'm not qualified to even question a college coach and his decisions/philosophy.
2) "Do you have dementia?" Bad question and in poor taste; I've had family members with that dreaded ailment. Not funny.
3) The bowl game loss: did you watch it or was there? The opposing QB had a Super Bowl Tom Brady day.
4) "...and hasn't recruited anyone." I suggest you check out appstatesports.com and look at the recruits and portal transfers.
5) Lastly if you're not for us you're against us.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:55 pm
by mountaineerman
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac. His first 3 seasons he was given teams loaded with experience...and he went 4-12 vs teams that we were +/- 5pts favorite/underdog. Lost our first bowl game in a slaughter, 0 fer in the conference title department, failed to make a bowl in 2022 and hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Did beat Texas A&M and coached a GREAT game vs Coastal in 2021....outside of that....pathetic.
Where on Earth have you been. I dont have any inside intel? You dont need inside intel...just look at the results.
Good lord dude. Are you even a fan? Do you have dementia? This isnt revolutionary stuff....this is just what shawn clark has done. Everyone knows this. I was just saying dont get torn up over basketball. We are doing how we do...football however....lord help us.
What if 12 is right? All his points are valid .
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:27 pm
by Stonewall
USA looked pretty good against number 1 and we were right there with them.Semis will be interesting today .
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:14 pm
by pop5app
mountaineerman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:55 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac. His first 3 seasons he was given teams loaded with experience...and he went 4-12 vs teams that we were +/- 5pts favorite/underdog. Lost our first bowl game in a slaughter, 0 fer in the conference title department, failed to make a bowl in 2022 and hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Did beat Texas A&M and coached a GREAT game vs Coastal in 2021....outside of that....pathetic.
Where on Earth have you been. I dont have any inside intel? You dont need inside intel...just look at the results.
Good lord dude. Are you even a fan? Do you have dementia? This isnt revolutionary stuff....this is just what shawn clark has done. Everyone knows this. I was just saying dont get torn up over basketball. We are doing how we do...football however....lord help us.
What if 12 is right? All his points are valid .
Great point! What if he’s right? He might have been a tad harsh in some aspects but he didn’t state anything that wasn’t pretty much true. I would not go as far to say he’s driven the program into the ground. But everything is not rainbows and butterflies either. The good news is the season will come and go and we will see!
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:23 pm
by AppStateNews
pop5app wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:14 pm
mountaineerman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:55 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:49 pm
Guys...this is normal for us. Dont think we are something we arnt just because we won 1 sun belt tournament during the covid year with no fans.
Dont let this distract you from how shawn clark has devestated our program into the ground.
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac. His first 3 seasons he was given teams loaded with experience...and he went 4-12 vs teams that we were +/- 5pts favorite/underdog. Lost our first bowl game in a slaughter, 0 fer in the conference title department, failed to make a bowl in 2022 and hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Did beat Texas A&M and coached a GREAT game vs Coastal in 2021....outside of that....pathetic.
Where on Earth have you been. I dont have any inside intel? You dont need inside intel...just look at the results.
Good lord dude. Are you even a fan? Do you have dementia? This isnt revolutionary stuff....this is just what shawn clark has done. Everyone knows this. I was just saying dont get torn up over basketball. We are doing how we do...football however....lord help us.
What if 12 is right? All his points are valid .
Great point! What if he’s right? He might have been a tad harsh in some aspects but he didn’t state anything that wasn’t pretty much true. I would not go as far to say he’s driven the program into the ground. But everything is not rainbows and butterflies either. The good news is the season will come and go and we will see!
Didn't say anything that wasn't true? You mean other than Shawn Clark did this? Or he hasn't recruited anyone and we don't have anything? Hmm... seems like there are quite a few farces in their post...
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:15 pm
by pop5app
AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:23 pm
pop5app wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:14 pm
mountaineerman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:55 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
scatman77 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 pm
I need you to very precisely, accurately, and with full research disclosure explain that last statement. I also would like to know your intel as to how you came to that conclusion.
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac. His first 3 seasons he was given teams loaded with experience...and he went 4-12 vs teams that we were +/- 5pts favorite/underdog. Lost our first bowl game in a slaughter, 0 fer in the conference title department, failed to make a bowl in 2022 and hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Did beat Texas A&M and coached a GREAT game vs Coastal in 2021....outside of that....pathetic.
Where on Earth have you been. I dont have any inside intel? You dont need inside intel...just look at the results.
Good lord dude. Are you even a fan? Do you have dementia? This isnt revolutionary stuff....this is just what shawn clark has done. Everyone knows this. I was just saying dont get torn up over basketball. We are doing how we do...football however....lord help us.
What if 12 is right? All his points are valid .
Great point! What if he’s right? He might have been a tad harsh in some aspects but he didn’t state anything that wasn’t pretty much true. I would not go as far to say he’s driven the program into the ground. But everything is not rainbows and butterflies either. The good news is the season will come and go and we will see!
Didn't say anything that wasn't true? You mean other than Shawn Clark did this? Or he hasn't recruited anyone and we don't have anything? Hmm... seems like there are quite a few farces in their post...
BOTH of you are stating an opinion. You think Shawn Clark is not the cause and he says he is. As far as recruitment, he says Shawn Clark hasn’t recruited producers you say he has recruited potential. We will see. Just because you say something is a farce does not make it so.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:15 pm
by AppStateNews
pop5app wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:15 pm
AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:23 pm
pop5app wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:14 pm
mountaineerman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:55 pm
AppSt12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:34 am
Shawn Clark was given the keys to the cadillac. His first 3 seasons he was given teams loaded with experience...and he went 4-12 vs teams that we were +/- 5pts favorite/underdog. Lost our first bowl game in a slaughter, 0 fer in the conference title department, failed to make a bowl in 2022 and hasnt recruited anyone....next year will be clarks recruits as everyone else has graduated...and we got nothing.
Did beat Texas A&M and coached a GREAT game vs Coastal in 2021....outside of that....pathetic.
Where on Earth have you been. I dont have any inside intel? You dont need inside intel...just look at the results.
Good lord dude. Are you even a fan? Do you have dementia? This isnt revolutionary stuff....this is just what shawn clark has done. Everyone knows this. I was just saying dont get torn up over basketball. We are doing how we do...football however....lord help us.
What if 12 is right? All his points are valid .
Great point! What if he’s right? He might have been a tad harsh in some aspects but he didn’t state anything that wasn’t pretty much true. I would not go as far to say he’s driven the program into the ground. But everything is not rainbows and butterflies either. The good news is the season will come and go and we will see!
Didn't say anything that wasn't true? You mean other than Shawn Clark did this? Or he hasn't recruited anyone and we don't have anything? Hmm... seems like there are quite a few farces in their post...
BOTH of you are stating an opinion. You think Shawn Clark is not the cause and he says he is. As far as recruitment, he says Shawn Clark hasn’t recruited producers you say he has recruited potential. We will see. Just because you say something is a farce does not make it so.
Anybody with any knowledge of the program knows what happened last year has been manifesting for years. That's a fact -- not an opinion.
Anybody with common sense knows the players Clark has recruited are the highest ranked we've ever had. That's a fact -- not an opinion.
The only opinion is if those recruits will pan out. But to say Clark caused this and hasn't recruited anybody is 100% false.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:30 pm
by pop5app
Just because YOU say it’s a fact does not make it so. We can blame last year on everyone else all we want too. Like I said, we will see. Hope we don’t have to assign blame next year if we go 4-8. Have your opinion all you want. Seems a little childish to dismiss someone else’s opinion because it’s different than yours.
Re: SBC Tournament - MBB vs South Alabama
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:32 pm
by AppStateNews
pop5app wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:30 pm
Just because YOU say it’s a fact does not make it so. We can blame last year on everyone else all we want too. Like I said, we will see. Hope we don’t have to assign blame next year if we go 4-8. Have your opinion all you want. Seems a little childish to dismiss someone else’s opinion because it’s different than yours.
I am not dismissing opinions. I am stating facts refuting the opinions. Big difference.
I fully expect next season to be better than last but still not as good as we are used to. 2024 is the season I expect to contend for NY6 again.