What's next for The Moose, AppGrad78 and 24/7?

[EastHallApp]

Oh, BTW, it was HBK999 who sent me a wake-up call with his post yesterday. In thinking about head coaching prospects who can teach, who can build and who can recruit, I had completely overlooked former ASU assistant coach Tony Pujol. Tony's the Miami, FL native who was on Houston Fancher's staff for two seasons before moving to VCU to work with Shaka Smart and then leaving VCU with Anthony Grant for Alabama. It would be tough to pry him away from Grant's staff, but to become a collegiate head coach--who knows what he might say with a nice, tidy compensation/perks package. And he'd be recruiting in the states he knows best--the "Sunbelt" states. Just a thought!

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-baskbl ... ony00.html

Considering Grant is currently 12-18 in his fifth year at Alabama, with a total NCAA Tournament record of 0-1 in his stint there, it might be easier than you think to pry one of his assistants away.

From Pujol's bio in that link, it doesn't appear he ever worked for (or with) Smart. Looks like he left App to join Grant's staff at VCU, then went with Grant to Bama.

[JCline0429]

He won't be talking to any coaches (unless he has consent from said coaches' AD) - I know some of you guys are anti-CC but the guy knows how the game is played --- there might be feelers thru 3rd or 4th parties but nothing direct until it is all on the up and up ---

As it should.

[asu66]

From Pujol's bio in that link, it doesn't appear he ever worked for (or with) Smart. Looks like he left App to join Grant's staff at VCU, then went with Grant to Bama.

I'm from Texas and never let facts ruin a good story. In other words, I messed up. Operating strictly from memory is sometimes dangerous. Correction made. Thanx.

[WVAPPeer]

Well it is easy to Monday Morning QB this - at this time - No one knows if it would have worked out a whole lot differently - I know of no AD who has ALWAYS hired the right guy/gal --- Look right down the road at WF - Wellman is very highly regarded and he has made some "questionable" decisions over the last couple of years --- It happens and I don't believe "swallowing his pride" has anything to do with this moving forward ---

[EastHallApp]

I don't think Wellman is very highly regarded by too many Wake fans. Most of them seem to want him and Bzdelik out of town yesterday.

[WVAPPeer]

I don't think Wellman is very highly regarded by too many Wake fans. Most of them seem to want him and Bzdelik out of town yesterday.

I was referring to nationally ---

[wataugan03]

Well it is easy to Monday Morning QB this - at this time - No one knows if it would have worked out a whole lot differently - I know of no AD who has ALWAYS hired the right guy/gal

I expect that some hires won't work out. That's fine as long as there are good reasons behind the initial decision. I won't blame Cobb if Satterfield turns out to be a bad hire because his history of running excellent offenses gives us a reason to believe can run a successful football team. There were no reasons to believe Capel would succeed. All the proponents have ever said in defense of his hire is that he was a young up and coming coach. The "young" part is true, but its not necessarily an advantage or disadvantage. The "up and coming" part was a conclusion backed by no evidence.

[ASUMountaineer]

He won't be talking to any coaches (unless he has consent from said coaches' AD) - I know some of you guys are anti-CC but the guy knows how the game is played --- there might be feelers thru 3rd or 4th parties but nothing direct until it is all on the up and up ---

As it should.

As we said.

[Appsolutley]

I don't think Wellman is very highly regarded by too many Wake fans. Most of them seem to want him and Bzdelik out of town yesterday.

I bet they feel a little different about things this morning.

[EastHallApp]

I don't think Wellman is very highly regarded by too many Wake fans. Most of them seem to want him and Bzdelik out of town yesterday.

I bet they feel a little different about things this morning.

Doubt it. They've had big wins before here and there. They're still not going to sniff the NCAA Tournament

[asu66]

I don't think Wellman is very highly regarded by too many Wake fans. Most of them seem to want him and Bzdelik out of town yesterday.

I bet they feel a little different about things this morning.

Doubt it. They've had big wins before here and there. They're still not going to sniff the NCAA Tournament

If you're a dyed-in-the-wool Wake fan, your heart probably goes into atrial fib when Bzdelik's record is called to your attention...4th Season at Wake Forest: 49-74 Overall (16-50 ACC) That's a winning percentage of .398. He'll be lucky to survive this spring's silly season. His long friendship with Wellman is the only thing keeping him employed. And even though Wellman has Bzdelik's back; it may put both of them in jeopardy.

[ASUMountaineer]

I don't think Wellman is very highly regarded by too many Wake fans. Most of them seem to want him and Bzdelik out of town yesterday.

I bet they feel a little different about things this morning.

Doubt it. They've had big wins before here and there. They're still not going to sniff the NCAA Tournament

If you're a dyed-in-the-wool Wake fan, your heart probably goes into atrial fib when Bzdelik's record is called to your attention...4th Season at Wake Forest: 49-74 Overall (16-50 ACC) That's a winning percentage of .398. He'll be lucky to survive this spring's silly season. His long friendship with Wellman is the only thing keeping him employed. And even though Wellman has Bzdelik's back; it may put both of them in jeopardy.

Didn't Bzdelik have a losing record prior to taking the WF job? Wellman seemed to be the only person that thought it was a great hire.

[BeauFoster]

Yes, he had a losing record at Colorado. I have a good friend who is a huge WFU donor. He doesn't believe that bzdelik will be back

[JCline0429]

He won't be talking to any coaches (unless he has consent from said coaches' AD) - I know some of you guys are anti-CC but the guy knows how the game is played --- there might be feelers thru 3rd or 4th parties but nothing direct until it is all on the up and up ---

As it should.

As we said.

Some did. Some didn't.

[EastHallApp]

I don't think Wellman is very highly regarded by too many Wake fans. Most of them seem to want him and Bzdelik out of town yesterday.

I bet they feel a little different about things this morning.

Doubt it. They've had big wins before here and there. They're still not going to sniff the NCAA Tournament

If you're a dyed-in-the-wool Wake fan, your heart probably goes into atrial fib when Bzdelik's record is called to your attention...4th Season at Wake Forest: 49-74 Overall (16-50 ACC) That's a winning percentage of .398. He'll be lucky to survive this spring's silly season. His long friendship with Wellman is the only thing keeping him employed. And even though Wellman has Bzdelik's back; it may put both of them in jeopardy.

Didn't Bzdelik have a losing record prior to taking the WF job? Wellman seemed to be the only person that thought it was a great hire.

He's lost everywhere he's ever been except for a two-year stint at Air Force. His record in three years at Colorado - the job from which Wellman hired him - was 36-58.

But this might be the most incredible stat of all: In four years under Bzdelik, Wake's record in ACC road games is 2-30.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bzdel ... ing_record

[EastHallApp]

Sorry to derail the thread. In summary, Wake fans are justifiably disgusted with Bzdelik and Wellman.

Now, resume App coaching-related speculation.

[appst89]

He won't be talking to any coaches (unless he has consent from said coaches' AD) - I know some of you guys are anti-CC but the guy knows how the game is played --- there might be feelers thru 3rd or 4th parties but nothing direct until it is all on the up and up ---

As it should.

As we said.

Some did. Some didn't.

Nobody advocated talking to coaches currently under contract, at least no one that I can find. People did say, and I was one of them, that Cobb needs to be making contacts and gauging interest right now; not the same thing as talking directly to a coach under contract.. If he waits, we are even further behind the 8-ball than we are now.

[JCline0429]

He won't be talking to any coaches (unless he has consent from said coaches' AD) - I know some of you guys are anti-CC but the guy knows how the game is played --- there might be feelers thru 3rd or 4th parties but nothing direct until it is all on the up and up ---

As it should.

As we said.

Some did. Some didn't.

Nobody advocated talking to coaches currently under contract, at least no one that I can find. People did say, and I was one of them, that Cobb needs to be making contacts and gauging interest right now; not the same thing as talking directly to a coach under contract.. If he waits, we are even further behind the 8-ball than we are now.

"If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). "

[appst89]

He can go see Seth Greenberg anytime. I stand corrected on Lutz.

And it doesn't change the fact that if he isn't already making those contacts, he's way behind where he should be at this point.

[soconjohn]

Why not go after Mercer's Bob Hoffman...Just throwing that out there.