Potential Capel replacements

[asu66]

http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=597&path=mbball


I'd like to see this guy get an offer. Bryan Lentz.

Good find

He has all kinds of roots in NC and has already done familiar with NC recruiting. He is young and has worked for successful teams. He has been coaching since he graduated from college. I really think we could get this guy if they went for him.

He might be a future hall of famer for all I know, but I don't see App replacing Capel with a guy who has never even been a D-1 assistant coach or a HC at any level.

Plus, not that it's his fault, but Texas basketball has fallen apart since he joined the staff.

When the time comes, our AD is going to be looking for a proven head coach with a reputation as a builder at some level or a top drawer assistant coach--a guy on the "up" elevator with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts.

If that responsibility was on my shoulders, I'd have a long talk with Matt McMahon. He's a guy with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts; and a guy who knows the value of hard work. Matt was a walk-on who earned a scholarship--then a starting position--then the leadership role of team captain. I believe he was completely excluded from consideration when Capel was hired. Matt may or may not be the right guy; and he may or may not harbor ill feelings toward Appalachian after the treatment he received four years ago--but I'd sure want to have a long conversation with him about the position and the situation that presently exists.

I'd also want to take a look at a few older head coaches who've been highly successful but may have worn out their welcome in their present jobs. The AD at Chattanooga is beginning to look like a genius for hiring former Ohio State head coach Jim Foster to coach the Moc women. The guy has won nearly 800 games in his long career and he's fallen in love with the city of Chattanooga. He's going to win a lot more games before he retires. There's a lesson to be learned from this hire.

Clearly, SUCCESSFUL EXPERIENCE should be qualifier #1 in seeking ASU's next head basketball coach. We've had quite enough of hiring "projects" to be our coach.

[MountainMan2020]

http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=597&path==

If that responsibility was on my shoulders, I'd have a long talk with Matt McMahon. He's a guy with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts; and a guy who knows the value of hard work. Matt was a walk-on who earned a scholarship--then a starting position--then the leadership role of team captain. I believe he was completely excluded from consideration when Capel was hired. Matt may or may not be the right guy; and he may or may not harbor ill feelings toward Appalachian after the treatment he received four years ago--but I'd sure want to have a long conversation with him about the position and the situation that presently exists.

Would love to see Matt back here Chuck but unfortunately I don't see it happening under the current circumstances.

[GoApps70]

Believe Bobby Lutz would be someone that could do a good job. He was a good coach and knows this area. He would love nothing better than out recruiting and having a better record than his old school at uncc.

[IGgreer]

lol at some of you thinking Bruce Pearl would ever come here.

Cobb isn't capable of making a home-run hire. Lutz would be a well-hit double though.

[Budman2154]

Ah yes, I remember the days when one would say, "Here comes Press and all his Vich's". I think Lutz would be a great hire if we could get him away from State.

[JTApps1]

http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=597&path=mbball


I'd like to see this guy get an offer. Bryan Lentz.

Good find

He has all kinds of roots in NC and has already done familiar with NC recruiting. He is young and has worked for successful teams. He has been coaching since he graduated from college. I really think we could get this guy if they went for him.

He might be a future hall of famer for all I know, but I don't see App replacing Capel with a guy who has never even been a D-1 assistant coach or a HC at any level.

Plus, not that it's his fault, but Texas basketball has fallen apart since he joined the staff.

When the time comes, our AD is going to be looking for a proven head coach with a reputation as a builder at some level or a top drawer assistant coach--a guy on the "up" elevator with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts.

If that responsibility was on my shoulders, I'd have a long talk with Matt McMahon. He's a guy with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts; and a guy who knows the value of hard work. Matt was a walk-on who earned a scholarship--then a starting position--then the leadership role of team captain. I believe he was completely excluded from consideration when Capel was hired. Matt may or may not be the right guy; and he may or may not harbor ill feelings toward Appalachian after the treatment he received four years ago--but I'd sure want to have a long conversation with him about the position and the situation that presently exists.

I'd also want to take a look at a few older head coaches who've been highly successful but may have worn out their welcome in their present jobs. The AD at Chattanooga is beginning to look like a genius for hiring former Ohio State head coach Jim Foster to coach the Moc women. The guy has won nearly 800 games in his long career and he's fallen in love with the city of Chattanooga. He's going to win a lot more games before he retires. There's a lesson to be learned from this hire.

Clearly, SUCCESSFUL EXPERIENCE should be qualifier #1 in seeking ASU's next head basketball coach. We've had quite enough of hiring "projects" to be our coach.

Cobb had his chance to hire Matt 4 years ago, but decided to go with "life experience" instead of basketball experience. It's a shame that we alienated one of our own to hire a guy that had no business even being considered.

[EastHallApp]

If that responsibility was on my shoulders, I'd have a long talk with Matt McMahon. He's a guy with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts; and a guy who knows the value of hard work. Matt was a walk-on who earned a scholarship--then a starting position--then the leadership role of team captain. I believe he was completely excluded from consideration when Capel was hired. Matt may or may not be the right guy; and he may or may not harbor ill feelings toward Appalachian after the treatment he received four years ago--but I'd sure want to have a long conversation with him about the position and the situation that presently exists.

I agree. I don't know all the back story, and maybe it's true that McMahon would be too upset at Cobb to consider the offer. But it's worth a shot if you think he's the right guy. A chance at advancing one's career has a way of helping people put their hurt feelings behind them.

[AppfaninCAALand]

I said it last year, and I'll restate it. This is the guy I want for next year. I saw him be the man that followed the man at Randolph-Macon (Hal Nunnally), and he did a great job, even with Nunnally constantly showing up at games before he died. He didn't leave R-MC because of a fall-off in the program -- far from it. He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information ... oades_Mike

Of course, I will conclude my post with the "presently, there's no open basketball job at Appalachian State" line.

When football season ends, we are a VCU household since the wife graduated from there and occasionally works there. I can't believe Rhoades hasn't gotten a head job yet - sadly, I suspect it will take a better job than App to get him to leave Richmond. He would be a great hire for sure, and could really turn the train wreck in Boone around.

It all depends on how happy he is being an assistant. It doesn't seem like that long ago when we walked out of the Siegel Center snickering after the 17-point comeback (73-70 win) and home-and-home sweep of the Rams a few years ago. Oh, but what's happened since December 30,2006.

That game still ranks as my favorite basketball experience I've ever attended. My school's best ever basketball team going back and forth with the one of the wife's best ever teams (up to that point, anyway) in a game that had everything you could ask for - I could be wrong but i think it was VCU's first every OOC lose in that building.

[AppinVA]

I said it last year, and I'll restate it. This is the guy I want for next year. I saw him be the man that followed the man at Randolph-Macon (Hal Nunnally), and he did a great job, even with Nunnally constantly showing up at games before he died. He didn't leave R-MC because of a fall-off in the program -- far from it. He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information ... oades_Mike

Of course, I will conclude my post with the "presently, there's no open basketball job at Appalachian State" line.

When football season ends, we are a VCU household since the wife graduated from there and occasionally works there. I can't believe Rhoades hasn't gotten a head job yet - sadly, I suspect it will take a better job than App to get him to leave Richmond. He would be a great hire for sure, and could really turn the train wreck in Boone around.

It all depends on how happy he is being an assistant. It doesn't seem like that long ago when we walked out of the Siegel Center snickering after the 17-point comeback (73-70 win) and home-and-home sweep of the Rams a few years ago. Oh, but what's happened since December 30,2006.

That game still ranks as my favorite basketball experience I've ever attended. My school's best ever basketball team going back and forth with the one of the wife's best ever teams (up to that point, anyway) in a game that had everything you could ask for - I could be wrong but i think it was VCU's first every OOC lose in that building.

I saw App beat Nebraska one night in Varsity, but I agree. I rank that as my best in-person App basketball memory.

[AppinVA]

If that responsibility was on my shoulders, I'd have a long talk with Matt McMahon. He's a guy with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts; and a guy who knows the value of hard work. Matt was a walk-on who earned a scholarship--then a starting position--then the leadership role of team captain. I believe he was completely excluded from consideration when Capel was hired. Matt may or may not be the right guy; and he may or may not harbor ill feelings toward Appalachian after the treatment he received four years ago--but I'd sure want to have a long conversation with him about the position and the situation that presently exists.

I agree. I don't know all the back story, and maybe it's true that McMahon would be too upset at Cobb to consider the offer. But it's worth a shot if you think he's the right guy. A chance at advancing one's career has a way of helping people put their hurt feelings behind them.

It all depends on how much McMahon wants to be a head coach at the Division I level. If we're the only ones offering, and it's Cobb doing the offering, I imagine he'd still listen.

[appst89]

I said it last year, and I'll restate it. This is the guy I want for next year. I saw him be the man that followed the man at Randolph-Macon (Hal Nunnally), and he did a great job, even with Nunnally constantly showing up at games before he died. He didn't leave R-MC because of a fall-off in the program -- far from it. He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information ... oades_Mike

Of course, I will conclude my post with the "presently, there's no open basketball job at Appalachian State" line.

When football season ends, we are a VCU household since the wife graduated from there and occasionally works there. I can't believe Rhoades hasn't gotten a head job yet - sadly, I suspect it will take a better job than App to get him to leave Richmond. He would be a great hire for sure, and could really turn the train wreck in Boone around.

It all depends on how happy he is being an assistant. It doesn't seem like that long ago when we walked out of the Siegel Center snickering after the 17-point comeback (73-70 win) and home-and-home sweep of the Rams a few years ago. Oh, but what's happened since December 30,2006.

That game still ranks as my favorite basketball experience I've ever attended. My school's best ever basketball team going back and forth with the one of the wife's best ever teams (up to that point, anyway) in a game that had everything you could ask for - I could be wrong but i think it was VCU's first every OOC lose in that building.

I saw App beat Nebraska one night in Varsity, but I agree. I rank that as my best in-person App basketball memory.

I was at that game. Nebraska was ranked about 17th at the time. That was a great game.

[wataugan03]

If that responsibility was on my shoulders, I'd have a long talk with Matt McMahon. He's a guy with proven recruiting capabilities and contacts; and a guy who knows the value of hard work. Matt was a walk-on who earned a scholarship--then a starting position--then the leadership role of team captain. I believe he was completely excluded from consideration when Capel was hired. Matt may or may not be the right guy; and he may or may not harbor ill feelings toward Appalachian after the treatment he received four years ago--but I'd sure want to have a long conversation with him about the position and the situation that presently exists.

I agree. I don't know all the back story, and maybe it's true that McMahon would be too upset at Cobb to consider the offer. But it's worth a shot if you think he's the right guy. A chance at advancing one's career has a way of helping people put their hurt feelings behind them.

It all depends on how much McMahon wants to be a head coach at the Division I level. If we're the only ones offering, and it's Cobb doing the offering, I imagine he'd still listen.

Its very hard to go from being a mid-major assistant to a D-1 coach. I think he would have to jump at the chance. He could go his entire career and never get another shot. That said, its odd that we have so many people interested in bringing back a guy who spent 10 years (the vast majority of his coaching career) working as an assistant for a guy we fired. Then again, the Fancher era is looking pretty good right now.

Murray State was great in McMahon's first year as an assistant, and good his second year, but its hard to say if he was much of a factor in that success. Its not like he recruited any of those players. He certainly didn't have much time to help develop them.

[huskie3]

Any of the assistants at Virginia Tech would be fine with me. They know the area and seem to have good contacts with the HS coaches. One of them is from Roanoke area.

[fjblair]

Add me to te Bruce Pearl fanclub. He would bring the energy and excitement our entire program desperately needs.

Bruce Pearl is not going to happen.

As far as the appropriateness of this topic...

This is a fan forum/message board and this discussion is not only okay, but to be expected in my opinion. This coaching change is a big opportunity that we cannot afford to botch again but Cobb's past performance makes me nervous.

[fjblair]

You say you go all the way back to Jerry Steele. How long did he stay before he went back to High Point...two weeks?

Steele came to town in very early March '72--still in the dead of winter in The High Country. Acting ASU AD Roy Clogston (of NC State fame...then living in semi-retirement at Hound Ears Resort) arranged for Steele to use a spartanly furnished "flat" in the old Faculty Apartments building adjacent to old North Hall (the women's dorm that was scheduled to be razed that spring). Steele stayed there for just under three weeks apparently spending most of his time pacing the floor and trying to convince his wife. Kitty, to join him. She came up to visit overnight in the middle of the third week, saw where and how he'd been living and gave him an ultimatum--pack and go with her back to Guilford County or get a divorce lawyer. They left together that same afternoon. He wasn't on campus long enough for his new contract to be completed and approved by the BOT.

As we all know, Clogston's next call went to his ol' NC State buddy, Press Maravich, who had been fired by LSU. It wasn't meant to be. Clogston was gone two full years before Maravich resigned. Jim Jones took over all athletics--not just the business side that he had been managing for years.

Dang 66 you are a treasure trove of ASU sports trivia!

[AppDawg]

Add me to te Bruce Pearl fanclub. He would bring the energy and excitement our entire program desperately needs.

Bruce Pearl is not going to happen.

It may not, but the way I look at it, if we ever have a legitimate thought of having a strong And relevant B-Ball program we have to think outside the state of NC box. If we don't we are no better than the 'ol Dannyboy and former WDDITWAA line of thinking. I look at Pearl as someone who needs a door opened for him to get back on the bench... it worked for Petrino at WKU, why not Pearl at App?

From a financial standpoint, I would hope we have been pocketing and saving the difference in dollars that were earmarked for "his name who shall not be mentioned" and Capel. Those funds should have been building over the last 4 years for the day we need to hire a real d1 B-ball coach.

All of that said, I do realize a Pearl probably would not be a long term solution, but at this point all I am looking for is someone to come in and lay 2 or 3 courses of a foundation.

[PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY]

i say go ahead and fire capel...why? well, he's not going to recruit anyone if he sees the writing on the wall...so you can kiss next year goodbye too if we wait too long.. people talk about paying his salary out...well, last i checked, the numbers at the games arent too stellar and if you win, you generate income for the program...you keep him going, you're losing more money...drop the shoe...adios. then again, maybe we need to ask the caroilna fan who had him hired to see what he wants to do next. also, go after an older coach...we will be a doorstep for any young coach and three and done could be all we get from a good young coach leaving us in limbo yet again...i wonder what houston fancher is doing...whatever you do, get a coach with character and fire...

[AppGrad78]

Bruce Pearl is a snake oil salesman. We should expect better.

[JCline0429]

Believe Bobby Lutz would be someone that could do a good job. He was a good coach and knows this area. He would love nothing better than out recruiting and having a better record than his old school at uncc.

Didn't someone on here remark that Lutz is bringing in 300 G's at NCSU as an assistant or did I misremember as Hillary says?

[JCline0429]

i say go ahead and fire capel...why? well, he's not going to recruit anyone if he sees the writing on the wall...so you can kiss next year goodbye too if we wait too long.. people talk about paying his salary out...well, last i checked, the numbers at the games arent too stellar and if you win, you generate income for the program...you keep him going, you're losing more money...drop the shoe...adios. then again, maybe we need to ask the caroilna fan who had him hired to see what he wants to do next. also, go after an older coach...we will be a doorstep for any young coach and three and done could be all we get from a good young coach leaving us in limbo yet again...i wonder what houston fancher is doing...whatever you do, get a coach with character and fire...

If I'm not mistaken, Houston is an assistant under Buzz at UNC-W along with Eddie Biedenbach.