Jeff Capel on the David Glenn Show

[APPARJ]

Just a brother covering for an incompetent sibling. I'm not that surprised or offended, just annoyed to get the negative press from a radio show that is typically so good to us.

Anyone who doesn't attribute our basketball program's sharp decline to Jason Capel hasn't been paying attention. You know it, I know it, David Glenn knows it.

I have a few thoughts about that. I've never worked for CC but I know plenty that have and while Capel absolutely owns the majority of the blame, I don't buy for a second the program's decline rests solely on him.

After these last four miserable years, revisiting CC's decision to hire Capel who had only 10 months experience as a bottom rung assistant is borderline depressing and definitely disheartening. I mean, what kind of amateur, irresponsible, parks and rec hire is that? I can say it's irresponsible now because of the results. Plain and simple. Not just the W-L record, but the academic issues, behavior etc. Also, the App State basketball coach job in 2010 was 100x more attractive than it is today.

Again, I am NOT running to Capel's defense saying that he is getting a bad break. He took the job therefore he can take responsibility for the outcome. I just think it's extremely important to be objective about major decisions that affect our athletic programs. If we convince ourselves that when a coach fails it's 100% "them" not "us", we put ourselves at risk for complacency and becoming blind to the real problems that exist. If that does happen, one day WE (App State) will be the majority of the problem causing our failures but no one will see it. We'll be too busy blaming that coach that didn't pan out the way we wanted.

Wow - that was more than I intended to write.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with the new Chancellor regarding leadership in the athletic department. I think most University Chancellors/Presidents would've shown CC the door by now. But seeing as how I've never been in charge of a 17,500 student University, my knowledge is limited on the subject.

One thing is for sure... we won't have to wait too much longer for answers to the questions being asked on this forum.

[Old Wideout]

What if I told you that Terry Holland has recommend a winning 1A High School coach……?
And he is on his way for an interview……….

[HeffnerIV]

What if I told you that Terry Holland has recommend a winning 1A High School coach……?
And he is on his way for an interview……….

I'd tell you that this thread is about to get really interesting.

[Gonzo]

Just a brother covering for an incompetent sibling. I'm not that surprised or offended, just annoyed to get the negative press from a radio show that is typically so good to us.

Anyone who doesn't attribute our basketball program's sharp decline to Jason Capel hasn't been paying attention. You know it, I know it, David Glenn knows it.

I have a few thoughts about that. I've never worked for CC but I know plenty that have and while Capel absolutely owns the majority of the blame, I don't buy for a second the program's decline rests solely on him.

After these last four miserable years, revisiting CC's decision to hire Capel who had only 10 months experience as a bottom rung assistant is borderline depressing and definitely disheartening. I mean, what kind of amateur, irresponsible, parks and rec hire is that? I can say it's irresponsible now because of the results. Plain and simple. Not just the W-L record, but the academic issues, behavior etc. Also, the App State basketball coach job in 2010 was 100x more attractive than it is today.

Again, I am NOT running to Capel's defense saying that he is getting a bad break. He took the job therefore he can take responsibility for the outcome. I just think it's extremely important to be objective about major decisions that affect our athletic programs. If we convince ourselves that when a coach fails it's 100% "them" not "us", we put ourselves at risk for complacency and becoming blind to the real problems that exist. If that does happen, one day WE (App State) will be the majority of the problem causing our failures but no one will see it. We'll be too busy blaming that coach that didn't pan out the way we wanted.

Wow - that was more than I intended to write.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with the new Chancellor regarding leadership in the athletic department. I think most University Chancellors/Presidents would've shown CC the door by now. But seeing as how I've never been in charge of a 17,500 student University, my knowledge is limited on the subject.

One thing is for sure... we won't have to wait too much longer for answers to the questions being asked on this forum.

I agree 100%. I'd even go further and say Cobb should have fired him 1-2 years ago instead of honoring his contract.

This next coaching hire should and likely will determine whether Charlie keeps his job under the new chancellor.

[ASUMountaineer]

"I can easily think of a hundred things he could have said, that doesn't burn any bridges.

1) Yeah it just didn't work out the way he would have liked.
2) He learned a lot, and all and all, he thinks it was a positive experience for him.
3) He caught a few bad breaks, but you just have to pick yourself up and go on
...
100) Even the best coaches have had some tough years.

If I was hiring a coach, I certainly wouldn't want one that had his brother infer that there was something going on wrong/crooked at the last place he was at, unless he could back it up. I I'd stamp "skip and all cost" on his resume and move on."

I think you are right on there were many better things he could have said - but again, he is his brother ---

Are we totally sure there is nothing to the inference that "something is wrong" at APP - personally I know nothing either way ---

I don't know, but wouldn't it be smarter to not say it? I don't blame him for looking out for his brother, but he was once a HC at a BCS school--he should know better than to say something like that. It's just not smart.

[ASUMountaineer]

Just a brother covering for an incompetent sibling. I'm not that surprised or offended, just annoyed to get the negative press from a radio show that is typically so good to us.

Anyone who doesn't attribute our basketball program's sharp decline to Jason Capel hasn't been paying attention. You know it, I know it, David Glenn knows it.

I have a few thoughts about that. I've never worked for CC but I know plenty that have and while Capel absolutely owns the majority of the blame, I don't buy for a second the program's decline rests solely on him.

After these last four miserable years, revisiting CC's decision to hire Capel who had only 10 months experience as a bottom rung assistant is borderline depressing and definitely disheartening. I mean, what kind of amateur, irresponsible, parks and rec hire is that? I can say it's irresponsible now because of the results. Plain and simple. Not just the W-L record, but the academic issues, behavior etc. Also, the App State basketball coach job in 2010 was 100x more attractive than it is today.

Again, I am NOT running to Capel's defense saying that he is getting a bad break. He took the job therefore he can take responsibility for the outcome. I just think it's extremely important to be objective about major decisions that affect our athletic programs. If we convince ourselves that when a coach fails it's 100% "them" not "us", we put ourselves at risk for complacency and becoming blind to the real problems that exist. If that does happen, one day WE (App State) will be the majority of the problem causing our failures but no one will see it. We'll be too busy blaming that coach that didn't pan out the way we wanted.

Wow - that was more than I intended to write.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with the new Chancellor regarding leadership in the athletic department. I think most University Chancellors/Presidents would've shown CC the door by now. But seeing as how I've never been in charge of a 17,500 student University, my knowledge is limited on the subject.

One thing is for sure... we won't have to wait too much longer for answers to the questions being asked on this forum.

I agree. But, I also haven't seen anyone give CC a pass for hiring Capel. Just saying...

[APPARJ]

Just a brother covering for an incompetent sibling. I'm not that surprised or offended, just annoyed to get the negative press from a radio show that is typically so good to us.

Anyone who doesn't attribute our basketball program's sharp decline to Jason Capel hasn't been paying attention. You know it, I know it, David Glenn knows it.

I have a few thoughts about that. I've never worked for CC but I know plenty that have and while Capel absolutely owns the majority of the blame, I don't buy for a second the program's decline rests solely on him.

After these last four miserable years, revisiting CC's decision to hire Capel who had only 10 months experience as a bottom rung assistant is borderline depressing and definitely disheartening. I mean, what kind of amateur, irresponsible, parks and rec hire is that? I can say it's irresponsible now because of the results. Plain and simple. Not just the W-L record, but the academic issues, behavior etc. Also, the App State basketball coach job in 2010 was 100x more attractive than it is today.

Again, I am NOT running to Capel's defense saying that he is getting a bad break. He took the job therefore he can take responsibility for the outcome. I just think it's extremely important to be objective about major decisions that affect our athletic programs. If we convince ourselves that when a coach fails it's 100% "them" not "us", we put ourselves at risk for complacency and becoming blind to the real problems that exist. If that does happen, one day WE (App State) will be the majority of the problem causing our failures but no one will see it. We'll be too busy blaming that coach that didn't pan out the way we wanted.

Wow - that was more than I intended to write.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with the new Chancellor regarding leadership in the athletic department. I think most University Chancellors/Presidents would've shown CC the door by now. But seeing as how I've never been in charge of a 17,500 student University, my knowledge is limited on the subject.

One thing is for sure... we won't have to wait too much longer for answers to the questions being asked on this forum.

I agree. But, I also haven't seen anyone give CC a pass for hiring Capel. Just saying...

Well, there are some people on the message boards defending him. Not that those people count at all (because they don't).

Didn't Peacock give CC an extension through 2017?? To me that's a form of being given a pass.

Regardless, I just want the best person for the job. (MATT MCMAHON! )

[APPARJ]

Just a brother covering for an incompetent sibling. I'm not that surprised or offended, just annoyed to get the negative press from a radio show that is typically so good to us.

Anyone who doesn't attribute our basketball program's sharp decline to Jason Capel hasn't been paying attention. You know it, I know it, David Glenn knows it.

I have a few thoughts about that. I've never worked for CC but I know plenty that have and while Capel absolutely owns the majority of the blame, I don't buy for a second the program's decline rests solely on him.

After these last four miserable years, revisiting CC's decision to hire Capel who had only 10 months experience as a bottom rung assistant is borderline depressing and definitely disheartening. I mean, what kind of amateur, irresponsible, parks and rec hire is that? I can say it's irresponsible now because of the results. Plain and simple. Not just the W-L record, but the academic issues, behavior etc. Also, the App State basketball coach job in 2010 was 100x more attractive than it is today.

Again, I am NOT running to Capel's defense saying that he is getting a bad break. He took the job therefore he can take responsibility for the outcome. I just think it's extremely important to be objective about major decisions that affect our athletic programs. If we convince ourselves that when a coach fails it's 100% "them" not "us", we put ourselves at risk for complacency and becoming blind to the real problems that exist. If that does happen, one day WE (App State) will be the majority of the problem causing our failures but no one will see it. We'll be too busy blaming that coach that didn't pan out the way we wanted.

Wow - that was more than I intended to write.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with the new Chancellor regarding leadership in the athletic department. I think most University Chancellors/Presidents would've shown CC the door by now. But seeing as how I've never been in charge of a 17,500 student University, my knowledge is limited on the subject.

One thing is for sure... we won't have to wait too much longer for answers to the questions being asked on this forum.

I agree 100%. I'd even go further and say Cobb should have fired him 1-2 years ago instead of honoring his contract.

This next coaching hire should and likely will determine whether Charlie keeps his job under the new chancellor.

I'm pretty sure firing him before his contract expired meant having to pay him the money he was owed. Capel was very cheap (150K) compared to other coaches we could've hired but there is no way we would have (or could have) dropped 150-300K to have Capel stay at home.

The good news, a great hire has to be made. No more appeasing the crowd or experimenting.

[ASUMountaineer]

Just a brother covering for an incompetent sibling. I'm not that surprised or offended, just annoyed to get the negative press from a radio show that is typically so good to us.

Anyone who doesn't attribute our basketball program's sharp decline to Jason Capel hasn't been paying attention. You know it, I know it, David Glenn knows it.

I have a few thoughts about that. I've never worked for CC but I know plenty that have and while Capel absolutely owns the majority of the blame, I don't buy for a second the program's decline rests solely on him.

After these last four miserable years, revisiting CC's decision to hire Capel who had only 10 months experience as a bottom rung assistant is borderline depressing and definitely disheartening. I mean, what kind of amateur, irresponsible, parks and rec hire is that? I can say it's irresponsible now because of the results. Plain and simple. Not just the W-L record, but the academic issues, behavior etc. Also, the App State basketball coach job in 2010 was 100x more attractive than it is today.

Again, I am NOT running to Capel's defense saying that he is getting a bad break. He took the job therefore he can take responsibility for the outcome. I just think it's extremely important to be objective about major decisions that affect our athletic programs. If we convince ourselves that when a coach fails it's 100% "them" not "us", we put ourselves at risk for complacency and becoming blind to the real problems that exist. If that does happen, one day WE (App State) will be the majority of the problem causing our failures but no one will see it. We'll be too busy blaming that coach that didn't pan out the way we wanted.

Wow - that was more than I intended to write.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with the new Chancellor regarding leadership in the athletic department. I think most University Chancellors/Presidents would've shown CC the door by now. But seeing as how I've never been in charge of a 17,500 student University, my knowledge is limited on the subject.

One thing is for sure... we won't have to wait too much longer for answers to the questions being asked on this forum.

I agree. But, I also haven't seen anyone give CC a pass for hiring Capel. Just saying...

Well, there are some people on the message boards defending him. Not that those people count at all (because they don't).

Didn't Peacock give CC an extension through 2017?? To me that's a form of being given a pass.

Regardless, I just want the best person for the job. (MATT MCMAHON! )

I'm not sure getting an extension for one bad coaching hire is a "pass." But, it does leave open that possibility. Of course people are defending him, it's natural to take care of your own (see Jeff Capel), but I think most everyone with any knowledge of the program know CC and JC share blame.

[wataugan03]

This next coaching hire should and likely will determine whether Charlie keeps his job under the new chancellor.

I have never been a big fan of his basketball decisions, but being an AD is about more than hiring coaches - which involves a lot of luck. Its about getting donations and good press. Its about running a functional sports information/media department. Its about compliance. Its about budgeting and marketing; and many more things I don't even know about. I'm not prepared to rate CC on any of those things.

[PhillyApp1]

Just a brother covering for an incompetent sibling. I'm not that surprised or offended, just annoyed to get the negative press from a radio show that is typically so good to us.

Anyone who doesn't attribute our basketball program's sharp decline to Jason Capel hasn't been paying attention. You know it, I know it, David Glenn knows it.

I have a few thoughts about that. I've never worked for CC but I know plenty that have and while Capel absolutely owns the majority of the blame, I don't buy for a second the program's decline rests solely on him.

After these last four miserable years, revisiting CC's decision to hire Capel who had only 10 months experience as a bottom rung assistant is borderline depressing and definitely disheartening. I mean, what kind of amateur, irresponsible, parks and rec hire is that? I can say it's irresponsible now because of the results. Plain and simple. Not just the W-L record, but the academic issues, behavior etc. Also, the App State basketball coach job in 2010 was 100x more attractive than it is today.

Again, I am NOT running to Capel's defense saying that he is getting a bad break. He took the job therefore he can take responsibility for the outcome. I just think it's extremely important to be objective about major decisions that affect our athletic programs. If we convince ourselves that when a coach fails it's 100% "them" not "us", we put ourselves at risk for complacency and becoming blind to the real problems that exist. If that does happen, one day WE (App State) will be the majority of the problem causing our failures but no one will see it. We'll be too busy blaming that coach that didn't pan out the way we wanted.

Wow - that was more than I intended to write.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with the new Chancellor regarding leadership in the athletic department. I think most University Chancellors/Presidents would've shown CC the door by now. But seeing as how I've never been in charge of a 17,500 student University, my knowledge is limited on the subject.

One thing is for sure... we won't have to wait too much longer for answers to the questions being asked on this forum.

I agree. But, I also haven't seen anyone give CC a pass for hiring Capel. Just saying...

Well, there are some people on the message boards defending him. Not that those people count at all (because they don't).

Didn't Peacock give CC an extension through 2017?? To me that's a form of being given a pass.

Regardless, I just want the best person for the job. (MATT MCMAHON! )

We can all blame CC,Chancellor Peacock, and JCapel for the mistake.....and the things behind the scenes that are at most schools Jeff can stick it. Jeff scewed his brother with those comments. Now Jason will be asked what behind the scenes things will he tell his brother about the next job?

Just stupid on Jeffies part

[Kgfish]

What if I told you that Terry Holland has recommend a winning 1A High School coach……?
And he is on his way for an interview……….

Cobb did say head coaching experience regardless of level.

[wataugan03]

What if I told you that Terry Holland has recommend a winning 1A High School coach……?
And he is on his way for an interview……….

I'd tell you Terry Holland doesn't like us very much and Cobb is a lot dumber than anyone imagined.

[MAD Doctor]

Old Wideout wrote:
What if I told you that Terry Holland has recommend a winning 1A High School coach……?
And he is on his way for an interview……….


I'd expect CC to announce a basketball home and home with ECU for the next four years.

[huskie3]

Old Wideout wrote:
What if I told you that Terry Holland has recommend a winning 1A High School coach……?
And he is on his way for an interview……….


I'd expect CC to announce a basketball home and home with ECU for the next four years.

If it is East Carteret coach, he would make a good assistant. If the Winston Salem Prep, no thank you but at least he is used to recruiting.

[asutrnr81]

Old Wideout wrote:
What if I told you that Terry Holland has recommend a winning 1A High School coach……?
And he is on his way for an interview……….


I'd expect CC to announce a basketball home and home with ECU for the next four years.

If it is East Carteret coach, he would make a good assistant. If the Winston Salem Prep, no thank you but at least he is used to recruiting.

Now that is funny right there!

[asutrnr81]

Well, there are some people on the message boards defending him. Not that those people count at all (because they don't).

Didn't Peacock give CC an extension through 2017?? To me that's a form of being given a pass.

Regardless, I just want the best person for the job. (MATT MCMAHON! )

1, 2, 3, 4,.....And neither would all knowing 10 post opinions if I were to generalize. CC has not been perfect and what leader has.

I guess time will tell.

I'd be hAPPy with Matt, or any other good coach who can come in and build a winner!

[Rekdiver]

I'd say if the new HC wants a 1a coach for an assistant that is fine especially if he brings a 6'9" power forward with him.