Davidson sucks game thread

[Cincy App]

Tough loss but a great effort by ASU tonight. As Saint said, solid finish to the season after the Citadel debacle. We should be a notably better team next season but Healy's intensity will be missed. Team and coaching showed improvement as this year went on. I at least see hope in the program. Time will tell.

[JTApps1]

Strong effort by the team but just not enough horses to keep up with the Cats. Our lack of a true center really hurt tonight. I loved the announcer saying Mckillop was begging for "every little bit of contact." We've seen that for years.

Imamoron was probably about have a heart attack thinking picturing someone other than DC representing the SoCon.

[Gonzo]

So ends the last SoCon BBall game for App State of all time.

[JCline0429]

18-9 App, team is shooting lights out, good defense, Capels is going nuts on the side lines coaching, (where has that been the last 2 years)

Caple lacked the experience to be a good head coach from day 1. That doesn't mean he'll never be good, it's just that learning on the job can be painful. In his profession, that pain is in full public view and shared by all fans. I'm willing to give him the chance to learn and, hopefully, succeed.

I am, too, 72. The only problem is that as soon as he does show a good record and success in the tournament, he will leave us in the dust just like our shyster, Buzz Peterson.

[JCline0429]

So ends the last SoCon BBall game for App State of all time.

You're assuming the Sun Belt will give us the spot. Has that been announced yet?

[Saint3333]

Either way next year we'll be a SoCon member, the earliest will be the 2014-2015 ball season.

[hapapp]

Interesting that both the men and women have solid games against the top seeds due in large measure to good PG play. Does show if we can find some consistency there we could be a decent ball club.

[87ASUgrad]

18-9 App, team is shooting lights out, good defense, Capels is going nuts on the side lines coaching, (where has that been the last 2 years)

Caple lacked the experience to be a good head coach from day 1. That doesn't mean he'll never be good, it's just that learning on the job can be painful. In his profession, that pain is in full public view and shared by all fans. I'm willing to give him the chance to learn and, hopefully, succeed.

I am, too, 72. The only problem is that as soon as he does show a good record and success in the tournament, he will leave us in the dust just like our shyster, Buzz Peterson.

BuckFuzz!!!

[HeffnerIV]

18-9 App, team is shooting lights out, good defense, Capels is going nuts on the side lines coaching, (where has that been the last 2 years)

Caple lacked the experience to be a good head coach from day 1. That doesn't mean he'll never be good, it's just that learning on the job can be painful. In his profession, that pain is in full public view and shared by all fans. I'm willing to give him the chance to learn and, hopefully, succeed.

I am, too, 72. The only problem is that as soon as he does show a good record and success in the tournament, he will leave us in the dust just like our shyster, Buzz Peterson.

BuckFuzz!!!

I don't really keep up with Buzz, but I did notice this weekend while at the beach watching WECT, that W finished with JUST FOUR WINS?!? What's the ROI on their investment in him?

[Kgfish]

We should be a notably better team next season

Have to disagree. We lose 30% of our scoring & 28% of our rebounds plus Healy's hustle plays that led to numerous turn overs and run out baskets. Sorry to say I didn't see anyone else on the floor lay it on the line like Nate did. Those are intangibles you can't put a figure on.

[cbarrier90]

We should be a notably better team next season

Have to disagree. We lose 30% of our scoring & 28% of our rebounds plus Healy's hustle plays that led to numerous turn overs and run out baskets. Sorry to say I didn't see anyone else on the floor lay it on the line like Nate did. Those are intangibles you can't put a figure on.

Jay Canty would like a word...

As much production as Healy provided, it will be replaced in the lineup by someone who steps up (my money's on the most talented player on the roster, Canty.)

When Sims left, Omar stepped up. When Omar left, Healy stepped up. Each time, we all wondered if the production would be replaced, and it was.

If Neal can have a full season and be consistent on the point, and Obacha continues his nice progression down low, we will be a tough out next season.

[JCline0429]

18-9 App, team is shooting lights out, good defense, Capels is going nuts on the side lines coaching, (where has that been the last 2 years)

Caple lacked the experience to be a good head coach from day 1. That doesn't mean he'll never be good, it's just that learning on the job can be painful. In his profession, that pain is in full public view and shared by all fans. I'm willing to give him the chance to learn and, hopefully, succeed.

I am, too, 72. The only problem is that as soon as he does show a good record and success in the tournament, he will leave us in the dust just like our shyster, Buzz Peterson.

BuckFuzz!!!

Are some of the MMB'ers going to say "Buck Capel" when he eventually leaves (providing he gets to stay long enough to have a winning season).....or Satterfield for that matter? I certainly hope not.

[WataugaMan]

[JCline0429]

You graduated from App, so I assume you can read well. Which part of that paragraph do you take issue with?

[ASUMountaineer]

18-9 App, team is shooting lights out, good defense, Capels is going nuts on the side lines coaching, (where has that been the last 2 years)

Caple lacked the experience to be a good head coach from day 1. That doesn't mean he'll never be good, it's just that learning on the job can be painful. In his profession, that pain is in full public view and shared by all fans. I'm willing to give him the chance to learn and, hopefully, succeed.

I am, too, 72. The only problem is that as soon as he does show a good record and success in the tournament, he will leave us in the dust just like our shyster, Buzz Peterson.

BuckFuzz!!!

Are some of the MMB'ers going to say "Buck Capel" when he eventually leaves (providing he gets to stay long enough to have a winning season).....or Satterfield for that matter? I certainly hope not.

No.

However, if one of them comes back for another stint as the HC in their respective sport and says things like "putting down roots," "being here for the long haul," and "wanting to be established like Jerry Moore at ASU" only to leave after one season, then yes we would.

[Kgfish]

We should be a notably better team next season

Have to disagree. We lose 30% of our scoring & 28% of our rebounds plus Healy's hustle plays that led to numerous turn overs and run out baskets. Sorry to say I didn't see anyone else on the floor lay it on the line like Nate did. Those are intangibles you can't put a figure on.

Jay Canty would like a word...

As much production as Healy provided, it will be replaced in the lineup by someone who steps up (my money's on the most talented player on the roster, Canty.)

When Sims left, Omar stepped up. When Omar left, Healy stepped up. Each time, we all wondered if the production would be replaced, and it was.

If Neal can have a full season and be consistent on the point, and Obacha continues his nice progression down low, we will be a tough out next season.

Omar was supposed to step in and fill Donald's void but the preseason POY wasn't even starting by the end of the year and averaging just over 11 ppg & 5 rebounds.

[WataugaMan]

You graduated from App, so I assume you can read well. Which part of that paragraph do you take issue with?

I'm willing to stick my neck out and state your possible assumption for SS will not happen, how's that?

[appst89]

18-9 App, team is shooting lights out, good defense, Capels is going nuts on the side lines coaching, (where has that been the last 2 years)

Caple lacked the experience to be a good head coach from day 1. That doesn't mean he'll never be good, it's just that learning on the job can be painful. In his profession, that pain is in full public view and shared by all fans. I'm willing to give him the chance to learn and, hopefully, succeed.

I am, too, 72. The only problem is that as soon as he does show a good record and success in the tournament, he will leave us in the dust just like our shyster, Buzz Peterson.

BuckFuzz!!!

Are some of the MMB'ers going to say "Buck Capel" when he eventually leaves (providing he gets to stay long enough to have a winning season).....or Satterfield for that matter? I certainly hope not.

There is no comparison between the Capel situation and the Buzz situation. Buzz was shopping for a job the whole time he was at App. Took the Missouri St. job then backed out. Tulsa for one year and bolted. To even imply similarity is to intentionally misrepresent the situations.

[asumike83]

We should be a notably better team next season

Have to disagree. We lose 30% of our scoring & 28% of our rebounds plus Healy's hustle plays that led to numerous turn overs and run out baskets. Sorry to say I didn't see anyone else on the floor lay it on the line like Nate did. Those are intangibles you can't put a figure on.

Maybe I'm putting too much stock into the strong play over the last 3 games but I tend to think we will be better next season. Healy is certainly a huge loss and Trice came on strong at the end of the season as well but compared to the last few years, the turnover is relatively light.

After 2012, we lost 55% of our scoring, which does not account for Rodey Milum, who left mid-season while putting up just over 8/game off the bench. We also lost 67% of our rebounding and 3 of our 5 starters. Even with all that turnover, I'd say we were a better team at the end of 2013 than we were at the end of 2012.

We will bring back 4 of our 5 starters and 6 of our regular 8-man rotation. The incoming class looks like it could be one of our best in recent years and if just 1 or 2 of those guys can contribute early and Jonathan Frye gets in the mix, I like our chances to get better.

Replacing Healy will be a tall task but I see it as one that can be done by committee. Tevin Baskin is a very talented player and I think he can pick up his scoring as a starter. Canty and Neal will also have to help pick up the scoring. As far as an energy guy, I really like Obacha to fill that role. I think Michael improved a lot throughout the year and plays with great hustle.

It is do or die for Capel in 2014. If nothing else, I think we finished a very inconsistent season with the best 3-game stretch we played all year. Hopefully, that momentum will carry over.

[Kgfish]

We should be a notably better team next season

Have to disagree. We lose 30% of our scoring & 28% of our rebounds plus Healy's hustle plays that led to numerous turn overs and run out baskets. Sorry to say I didn't see anyone else on the floor lay it on the line like Nate did. Those are intangibles you can't put a figure on.

Maybe I'm putting too much stock into the strong play over the last 3 games but I tend to think we will be better next season. Healy is certainly a huge loss and Trice came on strong at the end of the season as well but compared to the last few years, the turnover is relatively light.

After 2012, we lost 55% of our scoring, which does not account for Rodey Milum, who left mid-season while putting up just over 8/game off the bench. We also lost 67% of our rebounding and 3 of our 5 starters. Even with all that turnover, I'd say we were a better team at the end of 2013 than we were at the end of 2012.

We will bring back 4 of our 5 starters and 6 of our regular 8-man rotation. The incoming class looks like it could be one of our best in recent years and if just 1 or 2 of those guys can contribute early and Jonathan Frye gets in the mix, I like our chances to get better.

Replacing Healy will be a tall task but I see it as one that can be done by committee. Tevin Baskin is a very talented player and I think he can pick up his scoring as a starter. Canty and Neal will also have to help pick up the scoring. As far as an energy guy, I really like Obacha to fill that role. I think Michael improved a lot throughout the year and plays with great hustle.

It is do or die for Capel in 2014. If nothing else, I think we finished a very inconsistent season with the best 3-game stretch we played all year. Hopefully, that momentum will carry over.

It's more complicated than just who you bring back. Have to look at how the ones you lost forced the opposition to play you. I agree Basking is a talented player but he is nowhere near the 3 point threat of Nate. Healy did so many things that drew attention and opened things up for other guys. The focus was on Donald so much it freed up Carter to make plays. Once Omar was the focus of opposing defenses the results spoke for themselves. Nate's 3 point shot had to be guarded and that brought a front court player away from the basket giving guys inside better rebound opportunities. Obacha has to learn to play within himself. He fouls way to much getting into your bench. Canty has shown a lot of skills but very little drive. We don't have a true point guard and I'd hate to depend on a freshmen to stabilize this team. Just my .02 worth but we'll see starting next December.