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Potential Capel replacements

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Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:13 am

Figured I might as well go ahead and start this now, because I have been unable to motivate myself to discuss the current state of the program.

I wasn't around the board when Capel was hired, but I would guess Matt McMahon was considered the more likely choice by most back then and would still seem an obvious candidate today.

What is the general opinion of him, and who else would you like/hope for App to approach about the job?

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:18 am

I can't believe that unless something incredibly dramatic takes place, Capel is rehired at season's end. However, I don't think it kosher to be talking possible replacements before the season is half over.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by appst89 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:22 am

hapapp wrote:I can't believe that unless something incredibly dramatic takes place, Capel is rehired at season's end. However, I don't think it kosher to be talking possible replacements before the season is half over.
As miserably as this experiment has failed, I can't imagine that Capel harbors any illusions of an extension. I think it's fair to say he knows what's coming.

McMahon was the choice of a lot of people, but I doubt he considers coming back. I think Cobb burned the bridges between them.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:26 am

appst89 wrote:
hapapp wrote:I can't believe that unless something incredibly dramatic takes place, Capel is rehired at season's end. However, I don't think it kosher to be talking possible replacements before the season is half over.
As miserably as this nt has failed, I can't imagine that Capel harbors any illusions of an extension. I think it's fair to say he knows what's coming.

McMahon was the choice of a lot of people, but I doubt he considers coming back. I think Cobb burned the bridges between them.
I guess I just don't want to bury a body until it is completely dead. :|

Though, I agree with your comment on Matt McMahon.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:33 am

Sorry if this is premature. I actually don't mean to bash Capel. If he somehow turns it around this year and keeps his job, fantastic. Just seems hard to picture at this point. Unless a repeat of last year is considered sufficient (improvement, but still not good).

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by 567app » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:34 am

What do you guys think about Bobby Lutz? He makes $225,000 on Gott's bench at State, and from all reports is happy and content there. He had good success at a mid-major taking them to 5 NCAAT's and 3 NIT's in 12 years. He's 55, so would he want one more shot at a head job?

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:39 am

EastHallApp wrote:Sorry if this is premature. I actually don't mean to bash Capel. If he somehow turns it around this year and keeps his job, fantastic. Just seems hard to picture at this point. Unless a repeat of last year is considered sufficient (improvement, but still not good).
I guess one should never say never, but I find it hard to believe he will be renewed at season's end. And while it may be a fun exercise, it does seem a bit ghoulish to me. However, I obviously am just one voice, if others want to speculate, have at it. In truth, I would probably read what others think/hope. ;)

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by ASUGoose » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:47 am

Bruce Pearl or Seth Greenberg...

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Unread post by Goapps15 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:51 am

Two names I could very easily see App targeting are Josh Schertz from Lincoln Memorial University in Tennessee and Bobby Lutz is a possibility as well.

Schertz would be a nice option. He has won a lot on the Division II level and has turned the program around at LMU. They have been ranked for 45 consecutive weeks in the D2 poll and have won over 20 games for four consecutive years. It would be a very similar hire to Darcie Vincent. He has a 112-38 record going into his 6th year at LMU.

Lutz is the former UNCC coach and head assistant for Mark Gottfried at NC State right now. He is a possibility but I am not sure that I see it happening.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:59 am

I said it last year, and I'll restate it. This is the guy I want for next year. I saw him be the man that followed the man at Randolph-Macon (Hal Nunnally), and he did a great job, even with Nunnally constantly showing up at games before he died. He didn't leave R-MC because of a fall-off in the program -- far from it. He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.

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Of course, I will conclude my post with the "presently, there's no open basketball job at Appalachian State" line.
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by huskie3 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:50 pm

He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.
But can we afford him? What is his salary at VCU?
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:11 pm

huskie3 wrote: He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.
But can we afford him? What is his salary at VCU?
I'm not sure the money he would command, or if he would take a small cut in pay (maybe balanced with incentives) to become a D-I head coach. Whatever his salary, we can't afford another bad hire. Every 500 paying customers we have is $5,000 in ticket sales. $5,000 x 15 home games = $75,000.
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by wdhsbcsasu » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:16 pm

Look no further than the coach at DCCC! Outstanding!

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Unread post by Nugget49 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:22 pm

Goapps15 wrote:Two names I could very easily see App targeting are Josh Schertz from Lincoln Memorial University in Tennessee and Bobby Lutz is a possibility as well.

Schertz would be a nice option. He has won a lot on the Division II level and has turned the program around at LMU. They have been ranked for 45 consecutive weeks in the D2 poll and have won over 20 games for four consecutive years. It would be a very similar hire to Darcie Vincent. He has a 112-38 record going into his 6th year at LMU.

Lutz is the former UNCC coach and head assistant for Mark Gottfried at NC State right now. He is a possibility but I am not sure that I see it happening.
Getting rid of Bobby Lutz was really difficult for us because he is family, is a really good man, and our all-time winningest coach. It is generally believed that when he did not get the Tennessee job (Bruce Pearl did), and we joined the A-10, he lost his enthusiasm and recruiting went to hell. I think he had a bad mix of assistants but he is a very loyal man and I do not think he could bring himself to change that.

I would recommend him for several reasons. I feel certain that he wants to be a head coach again. Assuming he is successful I could see him retiring there in 10-12 years (he is 55). At this point in his career I do not think he is looking for a stepping stone. He plays a fun brand of basketball. It is live or die by the 3 point shot, but when it works it is the kind of game that draws a crowd. Bobby is a small town NC boy. He doesn't need the big city lights. He wants a nice place to play golf and a Bojangles. Boone would probably be a good fit for him. The kids that play in the SunBelt are the kids he wants to recruit. Bobby said too many times that nobody in the South cared about playing in the A-10. I do not think that is true, but he believed it and it killed our program.

Lutz is not our leftover. He is a successful coach that worked himself into a bad situation and everyone needed a fresh start. He is really smart and I am sure he learned from the experience. You should expect more out of him than we got our last few years.

I am not a Mountaineer so I will go ahead and say it. Capel has to go.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:54 pm

AppinVA wrote:I said it last year, and I'll restate it. This is the guy I want for next year. I saw him be the man that followed the man at Randolph-Macon (Hal Nunnally), and he did a great job, even with Nunnally constantly showing up at games before he died. He didn't leave R-MC because of a fall-off in the program -- far from it. He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information ... oades_Mike

Of course, I will conclude my post with the "presently, there's no open basketball job at Appalachian State" line.
When football season ends, we are a VCU household since the wife graduated from there and occasionally works there. I can't believe Rhoades hasn't gotten a head job yet - sadly, I suspect it will take a better job than App to get him to leave Richmond. He would be a great hire for sure, and could really turn the train wreck in Boone around.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by MountainMan » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:12 pm

Not sure why it wouldn't be kosher to discuss Capel replacements and/or why one would say it's not relevant since there is no opening for a coach, but maybe that's just me. If discussion on this board were limited to proven facts and all conjecture, opinion, rumor, and possible future events were removed, then go ahead and shut the board down.

I hope our athletic administration does not wait until after the season is over to think about Capel's replacement.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:23 pm

MountainMan wrote:Not sure why it wouldn't be kosher to discuss Capel replacements and/or why one would say it's not relevant since there is no opening for a coach, but maybe that's just me. If discussion on this board were limited to proven facts and all conjecture, opinion, rumor, and possible future events were removed, then go ahead and shut the board down.

I hope our athletic administration does not wait until after the season is over to think about Capel's replacement.
I had my tongue planted firmly in my cheek when I typed it (though true). Kind of like when people talk about NCAA Tournament pool sheets being "for amusement purposes only".
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:28 pm

AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote:I said it last year, and I'll restate it. This is the guy I want for next year. I saw him be the man that followed the man at Randolph-Macon (Hal Nunnally), and he did a great job, even with Nunnally constantly showing up at games before he died. He didn't leave R-MC because of a fall-off in the program -- far from it. He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information ... oades_Mike

Of course, I will conclude my post with the "presently, there's no open basketball job at Appalachian State" line.
When football season ends, we are a VCU household since the wife graduated from there and occasionally works there. I can't believe Rhoades hasn't gotten a head job yet - sadly, I suspect it will take a better job than App to get him to leave Richmond. He would be a great hire for sure, and could really turn the train wreck in Boone around.
It all depends on how happy he is being an assistant. It doesn't seem like that long ago when we walked out of the Siegel Center snickering after the 17-point comeback (73-70 win) and home-and-home sweep of the Rams a few years ago. Oh, but what's happened since December 30,2006.
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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by appgrouch » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:31 pm

AppinVA wrote:I said it last year, and I'll restate it. This is the guy I want for next year. I saw him be the man that followed the man at Randolph-Macon (Hal Nunnally), and he did a great job, even with Nunnally constantly showing up at games before he died. He didn't leave R-MC because of a fall-off in the program -- far from it. He's ready to become a head coach at the Division I level, and I'm surprised he's not one already.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information ... oades_Mike

Of course, I will conclude my post with the "presently, there's no open basketball job at Appalachian State" line.
Unless someone wants there to be an opening.
That's what I do. I gripe and I know things.

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Re: Potential Capel replacements

Unread post by Gonzo » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:39 pm

How about Buzz Peterson? :D

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