1/17 - MBB ODU @ App 1pm

[AppFan11]

Also we were/are very lucky to have kept both our big men from last year….. probably won’t happen this season unless we pay them more.

[Stonewall]

The second half showed what could be , but isn’t. It takes two halves. As someone who puts a lot of time and money into the program, it’s frustrating to the point of making me have second thoughts. Just venting.

[ASUFan4863]

That is a pisser of a game to lose. Most college bball teams can play good for a half…. that’s what ODU did today. They smoking from 3 in first half… like 50% . I really wish we did a better job of playing 3 defense in the 2nd half. Dodd is a beast.. I remember people on here saying I thought Dodd would be a 6 man. He may be the best guard in the SunBelt. Also thought Kerns did a heck of a job in the last minute plus. It was a winnable game. I thought when the score was where we were down by two that the first option should have been for Dodd to take it inside. We would be saying something different if we had hit that three. ODU has good talent despite several close losses.

Dodd absolutely has improved. Been one of our best players. We’re essentially running a 7 man rotation now as it seems Clarke Njock and Brim are out of the rotation. Hopefully we don’t get worn out down the stretch.
Great 2nd half effort but we were asleep in all facets the 1st half.

As of now, Banks is the 6th man and Moodie in to spell Wilson/Marcus. Clarke will get 5-8 minutes usually. Njock and Brim may get minutes depending on situation, but think you are right about primarily a 7 man rotation. We’d probably only do 6 if all our guys had super endurance and stayed out of foul trouble.

Which is interesting because I thought Kerns said we had a legit 10 man rotation in the offseason. Wonder what changed.

[BambooRdApp]

That is a pisser of a game to lose. Most college bball teams can play good for a half…. that’s what ODU did today. They smoking from 3 in first half… like 50% . I really wish we did a better job of playing 3 defense in the 2nd half. Dodd is a beast.. I remember people on here saying I thought Dodd would be a 6 man. He may be the best guard in the SunBelt. Also thought Kerns did a heck of a job in the last minute plus. It was a winnable game. I thought when the score was where we were down by two that the first option should have been for Dodd to take it inside. We would be saying something different if we had hit that three. ODU has good talent despite several close losses.

Dodd absolutely has improved. Been one of our best players. We’re essentially running a 7 man rotation now as it seems Clarke Njock and Brim are out of the rotation. Hopefully we don’t get worn out down the stretch.
Great 2nd half effort but we were asleep in all facets the 1st half.

As of now, Banks is the 6th man and Moodie in to spell Wilson/Marcus. Clarke will get 5-8 minutes usually. Njock and Brim may get minutes depending on situation, but think you are right about primarily a 7 man rotation. We’d probably only do 6 if all our guys had super endurance and stayed out of foul trouble.

Which is interesting because I thought Kerns said we had a legit 10 man rotation in the offseason. Wonder what changed.

Well, Knock is not played well enough to be in rotation. Too slow on O and D. Brim needs more time to develop.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

That is a pisser of a game to lose. Most college bball teams can play good for a half…. that’s what ODU did today. They smoking from 3 in first half… like 50% . I really wish we did a better job of playing 3 defense in the 2nd half. Dodd is a beast.. I remember people on here saying I thought Dodd would be a 6 man. He may be the best guard in the SunBelt. Also thought Kerns did a heck of a job in the last minute plus. It was a winnable game. I thought when the score was where we were down by two that the first option should have been for Dodd to take it inside. We would be saying something different if we had hit that three. ODU has good talent despite several close losses.

Dodd absolutely has improved. Been one of our best players. We’re essentially running a 7 man rotation now as it seems Clarke Njock and Brim are out of the rotation. Hopefully we don’t get worn out down the stretch.
Great 2nd half effort but we were asleep in all facets the 1st half.

As of now, Banks is the 6th man and Moodie in to spell Wilson/Marcus. Clarke will get 5-8 minutes usually. Njock and Brim may get minutes depending on situation, but think you are right about primarily a 7 man rotation. We’d probably only do 6 if all our guys had super endurance and stayed out of foul trouble.

Which is interesting because I thought Kerns said we had a legit 10 man rotation in the offseason. Wonder what changed.

Well, Knock is not played well enough to be in rotation. Too slow on O and D. Brim needs more time to develop.

Think Vasser was figured in the 10. Guessing Njock, Moodie, Clarke and Moodie rounded out the 2nd 5.

[BambooRdApp]

Dodd absolutely has improved. Been one of our best players. We’re essentially running a 7 man rotation now as it seems Clarke Njock and Brim are out of the rotation. Hopefully we don’t get worn out down the stretch.
Great 2nd half effort but we were asleep in all facets the 1st half.

As of now, Banks is the 6th man and Moodie in to spell Wilson/Marcus. Clarke will get 5-8 minutes usually. Njock and Brim may get minutes depending on situation, but think you are right about primarily a 7 man rotation. We’d probably only do 6 if all our guys had super endurance and stayed out of foul trouble.

Which is interesting because I thought Kerns said we had a legit 10 man rotation in the offseason. Wonder what changed.

Well, Knock is not played well enough to be in rotation. Too slow on O and D. Brim needs more time to develop.

Think Vasser was figured in the 10. Guessing Njock, Moodie, Clarke and Moodie rounded out the 2nd 5.

What a great season it could have been if Vasser healthy and Banks has of played at preseason 2nd team level .

[spacemonkey]

We need to spend the rest of the season getting banks comfortable for a three. If he were to find his stroke we could win the tournament...without him we dont have enough scorers. He has to find his stroke.

[app97]

Dodd absolutely has improved. Been one of our best players. We’re essentially running a 7 man rotation now as it seems Clarke Njock and Brim are out of the rotation. Hopefully we don’t get worn out down the stretch.
Great 2nd half effort but we were asleep in all facets the 1st half.

As of now, Banks is the 6th man and Moodie in to spell Wilson/Marcus. Clarke will get 5-8 minutes usually. Njock and Brim may get minutes depending on situation, but think you are right about primarily a 7 man rotation. We’d probably only do 6 if all our guys had super endurance and stayed out of foul trouble.

Which is interesting because I thought Kerns said we had a legit 10 man rotation in the offseason. Wonder what changed.

Well, Knock is not played well enough to be in rotation. Too slow on O and D. Brim needs more time to develop.

Think Vasser was figured in the 10. Guessing Njock, Moodie, Clarke and Moodie rounded out the 2nd 5.

I was thinking Neal would have been in rotation as well. Still have no idea what happened with him.

[PoplarHillApp]

Make free throws = win at least 4 more games a season.

Today was one of those games

[WASU 93]

We need to spend the rest of the season getting banks comfortable for a three. If he were to find his stroke we could win the tournament...without him we dont have enough scorers. He has to find his stroke.

Unless it is an injury, how does a player who shot 39% from three in each of his first two seasons become at 21% three point shooter?

[BambooRdApp]

We need to spend the rest of the season getting banks comfortable for a three. If he were to find his stroke we could win the tournament...without him we dont have enough scorers. He has to find his stroke.

Unless it is an injury, how does a player who shot 39% from three in each of his first two seasons become at 21% three point shooter?

Personally, I believe some of it is the offense we run. Not enough movement by the guards..not enough screens all around the court.. we seem to primarily have Bigs come out to top of key, etc. I just do not believe our offense is the best matchup for Banks. Our guards do not drive to basket with intent to dish out to the an open guard at the 3. When the opponents D rotates to help with the penetrating guard. The option to dish out to open wing is like the 3rd or 4th option.

[Bootsy]

We need to spend the rest of the season getting banks comfortable for a three. If he were to find his stroke we could win the tournament...without him we dont have enough scorers. He has to find his stroke.

Unless it is an injury, how does a player who shot 39% from three in each of his first two seasons become at 21% three point shooter?

Personally, I believe some of it is the offense we run. Not enough movement by the guards..not enough screens all around the court.. we seem to primarily have Bigs come out to top of key, etc. I just do not believe our offense is the best matchup for Banks. Our guards do not drive to basket with intent to dish out to the an open guard at the 3. When the opponents D rotates to help with the penetrating guard. The option to dish out to open wing is like the 3rd or 4th option.

There is truth in this. The Offensive sets frequently look like a hot mess…regardless of if App wins or loses.

[asu2000]

We need to spend the rest of the season getting banks comfortable for a three. If he were to find his stroke we could win the tournament...without him we dont have enough scorers. He has to find his stroke.

Unless it is an injury, how does a player who shot 39% from three in each of his first two seasons become at 21% three point shooter?

Personally, I believe some of it is the offense we run. Not enough movement by the guards..not enough screens all around the court.. we seem to primarily have Bigs come out to top of key, etc. I just do not believe our offense is the best matchup for Banks. Our guards do not drive to basket with intent to dish out to the an open guard at the 3. When the opponents D rotates to help with the penetrating guard. The option to dish out to open wing is like the 3rd or 4th option.

There is truth in this. The Offensive sets frequently look like a hot mess…regardless of if App wins or loses.

Another agreeing party here - our offense is slow - we never look to run a fast break - its always get into the half court make a move on one side of the court with a few guys if the play is open then great otherwise its stand around and pass the ball until 10 seconds left on shot clock and then its isolation for one and hopefully we make the shot. Its very role oriented and not free flowing, like each player does or doesn't get the ball. Especially in Isolation all players are not equal, maybe its game film and matchups, but banks/tot for example are not isolation ball getters and others. I doubt Banks will be here next year because of the offense we run. I also think it will be another big turnover year for the team. Really seems to me in my chair that Kerns wants to develop players instead of just letting them play and in the age of NIL - you will loose players on both accounts, Development takes to long for guys and guys that free play show what the have, so you loose them on both accounts. Have to pick your poison I guess. Maybe an assistant can give him a new playbook idea and it turn into a Jerry Moore football championship run. Kerns is a great guy and I hope he can find a formula that works, I just don't think defense first and half court offense only is where it needs toe be.