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2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:59 pm
by firemoose
After several trips through the list of the 40 rounds and 1215 players it appears that App did not have any players, current (including this years seniors) or incoming commits, drafted. I'm sure some of our graduating players will find a home somewhere but I thought you might want to see how our soon to be former conference and our new conference did. From counts it appears that the SoCon had 15 players taken and the Sun Belt had 24 players drafted. Of course this doesn't count the possible HS players that might have been committed to any of the Belt schools but listed below are the conferences and numbers. I included the one WKU player since they are still in the Belt until July 1st. Same thing with the one player from Elon.

SoCon: Ga. Sou-3, WCU-3, UNC-G-2, Samford-2, Citadel-2, Furman-2, Elon-1

82. Colorado, Sam Howard, LHP, Georgia Southern
102. Atlanta, Max Povse, RHP, UNC Greensboro
291. Seattle, Adam Martin, C, Western Carolina
371. Pittsburgh, Tyler Filliben, SS, Samford
392. N.Y. Yankees, Bo Thompson, 1B, The Citadel
439. Chicago Cubs, Jeremy Null, RHP, Western Carolina
557. Miami, Frederick Davis, 2B, The Citadel
594. Toronto, Aaron Attaway, SS, Western Carolina
666. Texas, Tripp Martin, 3B, Samford
667. Tampa Bay, Ryan Pennell, LHP, Elon
772. Philadelphia, Jacques De Gruy, RHP, Furman
915. St. Louis, Josh Wirsu, RHP, Georgia Southern
923. Colorado, Dylan Thompson, RHP, UNC Greensboro
1107. San Diego, Tyler Wood, RHP, Furman
1199. L.A. Angels, Eric Alonzo, RHP, Georgia Southern


Sun Belt: UL-L-7, UT-Arlington-6, TX St-4, Ga. St-2, Ark. St-1, WKU-1, UL-M-1, UALR-1, USA-1

138. Chicago White Sox, Zach Thompson, RHP, Texas-Arlington
184. Washington, Austen Williams, RHP, Texas State
208. San Francisco, Seth Harrison, CF, Louisiana-Lafayette
266. Milwaukee, Greg McCall, C, Texas-Arlington
292. Philadelphia, Matt Shortall, OF, Texas-Arlington
299. L.A. Angels, Caleb Adams, LF, Louisiana-Lafayette
307. Tampa Bay, Bradley Wallace, RHP, Arkansas State
346. Houston, Ryan Bottger, LF, Texas-Arlington
370. Detroit, Garrett Mattlage, SS, Texas State
397. Tampa Bay, Jace Conrad, 2B, Louisiana-Lafayette
423. Kansas City, Ian Tompkins, LHP, Western Kentucky
539. L.A. Angels, Austin Robichaux, RHP, Louisiana-Lafayette
618. Chicago White Sox, Ryan Leonards, 3B, Louisiana-Lafayette
704. Boston, Derek Miller, CF, Texas-Arlington
727. Tampa Bay, Nic Wilson, 1B, Georgia State
739. Chicago Cubs, Tyler Pearson, C, Texas State
773. Colorado, Taylor Black, RHP, Texas State
795. St. Louis, Tyler Bray, RHP, Louisiana-Monroe
811. Baltimore, Austin Pfeiffer, SS, UALR
821. Pittsburgh, Jess Amedee, RHP, Texas-Arlington
970. Detroit, Kenton St. John, LHP, South Alabama
999. L.A. Dodgers, Carson Baranik, RHP, Louisiana-Lafayette
1117. Tampa Bay, Matthew Plitt, RHP, Louisiana-Lafayette
1125. St. Louis, Chase Raffield, LF, Georgia State

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:11 am
by Saint3333
People typically only focus on football as a step up, but ALL sports will have to improve to compete in our new conference.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:38 am
by StumpyCulbreath
Sorry to see Whaley go undrafted, considering how hard he's worked to get there.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:02 pm
by AtlAppMan
Saint3333 wrote:People typically only focus on football as a step up, but ALL sports will have to improve to compete in our new conference.
I don't know about everybody else but I welcome the idea of raising the bar, across the board. If you do not set our goals high you will never achieve anything.

2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:08 am
by Blackandgold
Saint3333 wrote:People typically only focus on football as a step up, but ALL sports will have to improve to compete in our new conference.
During the Lafayette super regional the other night they said the sun belt was 10th best conference this year. Not sure what socon was this year, but in the past it's been around 5 or 6 (before losing c of c). Also, socon had 28 guys drafted in 2012, if I remember correctly. So it's really hard to compare the leagues, and say the sun belt is better. I don't think so. It may be a lateral move for baseball.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:50 pm
by JTApps1
Blackandgold wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:People typically only focus on football as a step up, but ALL sports will have to improve to compete in our new conference.
During the Lafayette super regional the other night they said the sun belt was 10th best conference this year. Not sure what socon was this year, but in the past it's been around 5 or 6 (before losing c of c). Also, socon had 28 guys drafted in 2012, if I remember correctly. So it's really hard to compare the leagues, and say the sun belt is better. I don't think so. It may be a lateral move for baseball.
The Southern finished 13th this year, and I believe the highest it has finished the past 5 or 6 years is 8th. Both leagues have been pretty similar in RPI most years, but the fan support the Belt schools receive is much better overall. The SoCon is taking a big hit losing CofC, Elon, GSU, and App.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:52 pm
by Blackandgold
JTApps1 wrote:
Blackandgold wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:People typically only focus on football as a step up, but ALL sports will have to improve to compete in our new conference.
During the Lafayette super regional the other night they said the sun belt was 10th best conference this year. Not sure what socon was this year, but in the past it's been around 5 or 6 (before losing c of c). Also, socon had 28 guys drafted in 2012, if I remember correctly. So it's really hard to compare the leagues, and say the sun belt is better. I don't think so. It may be a lateral move for baseball.
The Southern finished 13th this year, and I believe the highest it has finished the past 5 or 6 years is 8th. Both leagues have been pretty similar in RPI most years, but the fan support the Belt schools receive is much better overall. The SoCon is taking a big hit losing CofC, Elon, GSU, and App.
The socon is definitely taking a HUGE hit.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:59 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
One website has some RPI data going back 1990s or so for baseball. I'll try and find the link. But what I remember is the that SoCon was mid-teens mostlyor even lower, and in the last decade moved up a few sports as a whole conference but mostly low double digits. Maybe for a few weeks here and there we were 5-6 in conf RPI but the post about finishing 8 is also about the highest I remember, and even that year it seems the SB was a spot or two higher than the Socon. We are not moving up that much, but I would call a 2-3 step up in conf RPI not a complete lateral move either.

BB Conf RPI

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:16 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
I renamed the subject line since this was off topic of the MLB Draft. I guess that will make a new thread. We shall find out.

Conf RPI for SoCon and SB which is what the discussion was about on the end of the thread on MLB draft.

1997 SoCon 19 SB 4
1998 SC 18 SB 8
1999 SC 19 SB 10
2000 SC 18 SB 6
2001 SC 18 SB 7
2002 SC 18 SB 6
2003 SC 17 SB 5
2004 SC 15 SB 8
2005 SC 9 SB 16
2006 SC 8 SB 7
2007 SC 11 SB 7
2008 SC 9 SB 10
2009 SC 9 SB 8
2010 SC 10 SB 6
2011 SC 14 SB 7
2012 SC 7 SB 16
2013 SC 12 SB 5
2014 SC 12 SB 9

Average SC 14.3 which is near the bottom of the top 1/2 of 32 confs.
Average SB 8.1 which is right at the top 1/4. I would call that an upgrade.

Source: http://www.boydsworld.com/baseball/rpi/confrpi.html
http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2013/conferencerpi

And check my math for the averages. I edited 2013 but did not cross reference any other years between the two sites.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:15 pm
by BurlingtonApp
I'm not saying the data is off, but I don't see how the SB could have been ranked 30th in 2013. They had four NCAA tournament teams, which had to be in the top 5 or 6 conferences.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:45 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
BurlingtonApp wrote:I'm not saying the data is off, but I don't see how the SB could have been ranked 30th in 2013. They had four NCAA tournament teams, which had to be in the top 5 or 6 conferences.
they may have had 4 really good teams and everyone else sucked it up, though it would be hard to have 4 good RPI teams and then 8 really bad teams that were really bad and not bring the whole conf down. Warren nolen also has yearly RPI or pseudo-RPI going back to 2004 or so but I could not get it to load, so I was not able to check both sites. 2013 may be a mistake. I don't remember the SoCon being that bad either.

Warren Nolen is now loading and the SB was 5 in 2013 and the SC was 12. That looks better.

Re: 2014 MLB Draft

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:31 am
by Blackandgold
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:I renamed the subject line since this was off topic of the MLB Draft. I guess that will make a new thread. We shall find out.

Conf RPI for SoCon and SB which is what the discussion was about on the end of the thread on MLB draft.

1997 SoCon 19 SB 4
1998 SC 18 SB 8
1999 SC 19 SB 10
2000 SC 18 SB 6
2001 SC 18 SB 7
2002 SC 18 SB 6
2003 SC 17 SB 5
2004 SC 15 SB 8
2005 SC 9 SB 16
2006 SC 8 SB 7
2007 SC 11 SB 7
2008 SC 9 SB 10
2009 SC 9 SB 8
2010 SC 10 SB 6
2011 SC 14 SB 7
2012 SC 7 SB 16
2013 SC 12 SB 5
2014 SC 12 SB 9

Average SC 14.3 which is near the bottom of the top 1/2 of 32 confs.
Average SB 8.1 which is right at the top 1/4. I would call that an upgrade.

Source: http://www.boydsworld.com/baseball/rpi/confrpi.html
http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2013/conferencerpi

And check my math for the averages. I edited 2013 but did not cross reference any other years between the two sites.
Seems about right. 2012 was my main point and memory, but obviously socon has dropped of since then.