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Re: 2022 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:52 pm

ViewCrew - Man it is so good to see your name "in lights" again!!!

And Hap - I never insinuated that the climate/locale precluded having a good season/s - just that it absolutely hurts recruiting ---
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Unread post by hapapp » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:57 pm

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ViewCrew - Man it is so good to see your name "in lights" again!!!

And Hap - I never insinuated that the climate/locale precluded having a good season/s - just that it absolutely hurts recruiting ---
Wasn’t directing it at you…that’s a common refrain and obviously some truth to it.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:01 pm

Two out Slam.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:08 pm

6-1 routine loss to a clearly superior team.Maybe we can steal one tomorrow.

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Unread post by AdoptedApp » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:50 pm

Honestly if this is the result of 6 years of Kermit’s leadership, I would think it may be time to try a different plan.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:59 pm

Another collapse.Another sweep.

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Unread post by WataugaMan » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:08 pm

Back to back to back Conference Sweeps. I really hope this team can turn things around and make something out of this season. However, it's looking bad, really really bad!

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:00 pm

This team can’t buy a break. Up 3-2 and the wind was blowing in all game. Then it shifts and is blowing hard out to right and Coastal hits 2 dingers that plate 4 runs. Then the wind shifts back to blowing in.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:53 pm

I emailed Doug Gillin two weeks ago and respectfully voiced my opinion on Kermit Smith’s tenure. If you’re fed up with getting drug at home by conference opponents. If you’re fed up with being a .300 program, I suggest you do the same.
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Unread post by hapapp » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:54 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:00 pm
This team can’t buy a break. Up 3-2 and the wind was blowing in all game. Then it shifts and is blowing hard out to right and Coastal hits 2 dingers that plate 4 runs. Then the wind shifts back to blowing in.
It’s amazing the rationalizations we find to explain our losses. Our 3-12 conference record is not a product of just some bad luck.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:55 pm

hapapp wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:54 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:00 pm
This team can’t buy a break. Up 3-2 and the wind was blowing in all game. Then it shifts and is blowing hard out to right and Coastal hits 2 dingers that plate 4 runs. Then the wind shifts back to blowing in.
It’s amazing the rationalizations we find to explain our losses. Our 3-12 conference record is not a product of just some bad luck.
Same conditions, same altitude, same everything. We’re just not very good and it all starts and finishes with the coach. The coach recruits, the coach leads practice, the coach makes game decisions.
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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:02 pm

hapapp wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:54 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:00 pm
This team can’t buy a break. Up 3-2 and the wind was blowing in all game. Then it shifts and is blowing hard out to right and Coastal hits 2 dingers that plate 4 runs. Then the wind shifts back to blowing in.
It’s amazing the rationalizations we find to explain our losses. Our 3-12 conference record is not a product of just some bad luck.
It isn’t rationalizing anything to justify anything. Just stating what I observed. The half inning prior ended with a player for the good guys tattooing a pitch that went to the right center wall with the wind blowing in. Next half inning, the wind shifted and two balls hit to the same spot left the yard. It changed the dynamic of the game. Period. Some of ya’ll just look for stuff to make you unhappy.
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Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:07 pm

I thought that perhaps we had turned the corner last year,and I mean to respectability in the conference.My expectations are frankly that we play .500 ball most of the time and make a run to the NCAA's a every 3-5 years.Is this asking too much?Coach told me when he was hired that the goal was regional contender sooner rather than later, then Omaha.I like the guy a lot and want him to be successful .I want us to be successful.He has to shake things up , and soon.He may not have another year.

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Unread post by hapapp » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:14 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:02 pm
hapapp wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:54 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:00 pm
This team can’t buy a break. Up 3-2 and the wind was blowing in all game. Then it shifts and is blowing hard out to right and Coastal hits 2 dingers that plate 4 runs. Then the wind shifts back to blowing in.
It’s amazing the rationalizations we find to explain our losses. Our 3-12 conference record is not a product of just some bad luck.
It isn’t rationalizing anything to justify anything. Just stating what I observed. The half any prior ended with a player for the good guys tattooing a pitch that went to the right center wall with the wind blowing in. Next half inning, the wind shifted and two balls hit to the same spot left the yard. It changed the dynamic of the game. Period. Some of ya’ll just look for stuff to make you unhappy.
I guess I just get tired of hearing after each loss, if this either happened or didn’t we would have won. We are 3-12 and have loss 9 straight conference games. But some just shrug as if to say “oh well.”

I’m not calling for heads to roll but my expectations are for us to better than cellar dwellers. We’re halfway through Belt play and the level of competition is a bit easier in the 2nd half. I’m hoping we find our groove.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:35 pm

hapapp wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:14 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:02 pm
hapapp wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:54 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:00 pm
This team can’t buy a break. Up 3-2 and the wind was blowing in all game. Then it shifts and is blowing hard out to right and Coastal hits 2 dingers that plate 4 runs. Then the wind shifts back to blowing in.
It’s amazing the rationalizations we find to explain our losses. Our 3-12 conference record is not a product of just some bad luck.
It isn’t rationalizing anything to justify anything. Just stating what I observed. The half any prior ended with a player for the good guys tattooing a pitch that went to the right center wall with the wind blowing in. Next half inning, the wind shifted and two balls hit to the same spot left the yard. It changed the dynamic of the game. Period. Some of ya’ll just look for stuff to make you unhappy.
I guess I just get tired of hearing after each loss, if this either happened or didn’t we would have won. We are 3-12 and have loss 9 straight conference games. But some just shrug as if to say “oh well.”

I’m not calling for heads to roll but my expectations are for us to better than cellar dwellers. We’re halfway through Belt play and the level of competition is a bit easier in the 2nd half. I’m hoping we find our groove.
I get it. But where did my comment come across as “oh well.” I was at the game and watched the flags and remarked on it.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:43 pm

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I thought that perhaps we had turned the corner last year,and I mean to respectability in the conference.My expectations are frankly that we play .500 ball most of the time and make a run to the NCAA's a every 3-5 years.Is this asking too much?Coach told me when he was hired that the goal was regional contender sooner rather than later, then Omaha.I like the guy a lot and want him to be successful .I want us to be successful.He has to shake things up , and soon.He may not have another year.
Those were the exact expectations I laid out on page 9 of this thread but was lambasted by AppSt94, WVAPPeer, spacemonkey, and Appgrad78 on various talking points for setting my expectations too high and DARING to hold the coaching staff accountable.
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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:15 pm

APPdiesel wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:43 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:07 pm
I thought that perhaps we had turned the corner last year,and I mean to respectability in the conference.My expectations are frankly that we play .500 ball most of the time and make a run to the NCAA's a every 3-5 years.Is this asking too much?Coach told me when he was hired that the goal was regional contender sooner rather than later, then Omaha.I like the guy a lot and want him to be successful .I want us to be successful.He has to shake things up , and soon.He may not have another year.
Those were the exact expectations I laid out on page 9 of this thread but was lambasted by AppSt94, WVAPPeer, spacemonkey, and Appgrad78 on various talking points for setting my expectations too high and DARING to hold the coaching staff accountable.
I’m sorry to be blunt but unless you have the ability to fund the program and as you posted on Twitter, “Call Chris Pollard and double his salary,”; Your insistence on holding coaches accountable are irrelevant. Gillin will do what he needs to do at the end of the season. If he thinks a change needs to be made, he will and you Sir will feel validated. If he doesn’t, will you acquiesce that you might not understand all that you need to understand or will you sit in the corner and hold your breath until you get what you want?

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Unread post by smokeshow » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:49 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:15 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:43 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:07 pm
I thought that perhaps we had turned the corner last year,and I mean to respectability in the conference.My expectations are frankly that we play .500 ball most of the time and make a run to the NCAA's a every 3-5 years.Is this asking too much?Coach told me when he was hired that the goal was regional contender sooner rather than later, then Omaha.I like the guy a lot and want him to be successful .I want us to be successful.He has to shake things up , and soon.He may not have another year.
Those were the exact expectations I laid out on page 9 of this thread but was lambasted by AppSt94, WVAPPeer, spacemonkey, and Appgrad78 on various talking points for setting my expectations too high and DARING to hold the coaching staff accountable.
I’m sorry to be blunt but unless you have the ability to fund the program and as you posted on Twitter, “Call Chris Pollard and double his salary,”; Your insistence on holding coaches accountable are irrelevant. Gillin will do what he needs to do at the end of the season. If he thinks a change needs to be made, he will and you Sir will feel validated. If he doesn’t, will you acquiesce that you might not understand all that you need to understand or will you sit in the corner and hold your breath until you get what you want?
I was here at App during our all world years! From 2010 to 2014 and let me tell you the funding was fat worse then. We had a great coach that recruited NC well and had a team that wanted to develop and win. It is 100% possible to still do this and the fact that some think Kemrit can do if have lost their minds. He was a budget hire from the beginning and has given us less than budget results. This state has too good a hs baseball culture to watch us suck this bad. It's time Gillan eats the Kermit sucks cookie and starts looking for someone that won't embarrass us as donors and alumni.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:55 pm

smokeshow wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:49 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:15 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:43 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:07 pm
I thought that perhaps we had turned the corner last year,and I mean to respectability in the conference.My expectations are frankly that we play .500 ball most of the time and make a run to the NCAA's a every 3-5 years.Is this asking too much?Coach told me when he was hired that the goal was regional contender sooner rather than later, then Omaha.I like the guy a lot and want him to be successful .I want us to be successful.He has to shake things up , and soon.He may not have another year.
Those were the exact expectations I laid out on page 9 of this thread but was lambasted by AppSt94, WVAPPeer, spacemonkey, and Appgrad78 on various talking points for setting my expectations too high and DARING to hold the coaching staff accountable.
I’m sorry to be blunt but unless you have the ability to fund the program and as you posted on Twitter, “Call Chris Pollard and double his salary,”; Your insistence on holding coaches accountable are irrelevant. Gillin will do what he needs to do at the end of the season. If he thinks a change needs to be made, he will and you Sir will feel validated. If he doesn’t, will you acquiesce that you might not understand all that you need to understand or will you sit in the corner and hold your breath until you get what you want?
I was here at App during our all world years! From 2010 to 2014 and let me tell you the funding was fat worse then. We had a great coach that recruited NC well and had a team that wanted to develop and win. It is 100% possible to still do this and the fact that some think Kemrit can do if have lost their minds. He was a budget hire from the beginning and has given us less than budget results. This state has too good a hs baseball culture to watch us suck this bad. It's time Gillan eats the Kermit sucks cookie and starts looking for someone that won't embarrass us as donors and alumni.
I have zero problem with folks being disappointed with results. My position is that being disappointed and demanding accountability for self imposed expectations is taking it too far. I’m sure that Kermit laid out his expectations to Gillin as I am sure Gillin did as well. Those are the only two sets of expectations that I care about and any staffing decisions that come about from those expectations will answer my questions.

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Re: 2022 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:08 pm

Has the landscape of college baseball really changed that much in tbe past 10 years especially for App? It’s hard to imagine that all of a sudden we can’t get mid level talent and at least be a top 3rd in the conference program. We had some top tier teams years ago in the SOCON and put some guys in the pros. I get that there are probably tougher programs in the Belt but we absolutely look like a different division at times.

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