2023 Baseball Mega Thread

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by 311neers » Wed May 17, 2023 5:57 pm

We don’t really lose any senior/usage arms, that’s the good thing.

Hamilton
Tuttle (injury)
Cross (might be injured?)
Welch
Steensma
Brooks
Chirico
Sleeper
Wilson
Tujestch (is he injured?)
Beaty

All eligible to return I believe. Still work to do and can develop some of the above.

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed May 17, 2023 6:47 pm

My personal opinion, we need to pick up 2 to 3 position players in portal and 2 to 3 pitchers. We need at least one of hitters to hit with power in the clean-up or 5th spot
For pitching, we need a Saturday starter. Will be hard to win many series against good teams with ERA over 8 on Sat and Sun.
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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by JTApps1 » Wed May 17, 2023 7:04 pm

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Wed May 17, 2023 5:48 pm
Just hope we can retain our bats that are eligible to return: Boyd, Rodgers, Moronta, Xuereb. Anyone have an update on Cross injury? We will need a lot more than just Tut Cross and Hamilton next year, especially with all the bats leaving.

Edit: Retain ASL at all costs. We have to return those 5 bats.
Boyd, Hamilton and St. Laurent have all used their one time transfer so I don't think we have to worry about them going anywhere unless they're drafted.

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu May 18, 2023 5:58 am

It's hard to imagine any college baseball player getting what would be considered "huge" NIL money. I've read that a great majority of college baseball teams lose money. Even using a simple calculation of 13 scholarships at $30k per year that's about $400k then add in coaching salaries and travel costs and even an average team is at or over $1m per. I'm sure a major SEC school is easily double that. Gate receipts would need to run at 5,000 people at $10 each for 30 games to bring in $1.5m. I would think even a good G5 is less than half of that for gate. Corporate sponsors kick in some and I reckon the big conferences get some TV money from their networks.

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu May 18, 2023 7:28 am

The NIL money would not come from school. It is someone that wants to sponsor a kid. The financials of the school are somewhat irrelevant in the equation. If T Boone Pickens wants Okie State to be a national contender in baseball, he can research the top 50 high school kids and offer a million each to come to Okie State to play baseball through an endorsement for the kids he gets.... realize dummying down how NIL works..just an example.
Do I think someone would do that, probably not ...as the sport is not as popular as bball and football.
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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by Appmountaineers19 » Thu May 18, 2023 7:55 am

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The NIL money would not come from school. It is someone that wants to sponsor a kid. The financials of the school are somewhat irrelevant in the equation. If T Boone Pickens wants Okie State to be a national contender in baseball, he can research the top 50 high school kids and offer a million each to come to Okie State to play baseball through an endorsement for the kids he gets.... realize dummying down how NIL works..just an example.
Do I think someone would do that, probably not ...as the sport is not as popular as bball and football.
Reading some articles and it looks like quite a few teams are taking a different approach. Instead of "giving" money towards NIL, it's covering the rest of the tuition that the 11.7 scholarships don't cover. They can have up to 32 players on scholarship now. I'm sure you still have your upper tier player that makes more with the NIL but looks more team orientated in most cases related to baseball.

To your point highlighted. You are absolutely right and I bet MLB is not happy with this at all. (I highly doubt they were proactive about the NIL but going to 20 rounds for the draft will save MLB a ton of $$$) Some of the top tier HS players might opt to go to college instead.

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

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Thu May 18, 2023 5:58 am
It's hard to imagine any college baseball player getting what would be considered "huge" NIL money. I've read that a great majority of college baseball teams lose money. Even using a simple calculation of 13 scholarships at $30k per year that's about $400k then add in coaching salaries and travel costs and even an average team is at or over $1m per. I'm sure a major SEC school is easily double that. Gate receipts would need to run at 5,000 people at $10 each for 30 games to bring in $1.5m. I would think even a good G5 is less than half of that for gate. Corporate sponsors kick in some and I reckon the big conferences get some TV money from their networks.
NC State lost Tommy Tanks to LSU because of money. UGA NIL is going to to have to pony up to keep their freshman that just set the SEC homerun record. The top tier athletes whether it be football basketball or baseball are going to get paid because people want their teams to win that bad. Some of our players even have a value in my opinion, which is a tribute to Kermit and his portal/recruiting efforts, we’ve got some great players on this team!

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For those wondering why our ERA is so high…and why we hit so well.

The balls are JUICED, no doubt about it. Seams might be raised too to slow arms down and spin rate. Definitely makes for more excitement!

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

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For those wondering why our ERA is so high…and why we hit so well.

The balls are JUICED, no doubt about it. Seams might be raised too to slow arms down and spin rate. Definitely makes for more excitement!
You are right, balls are flying out. I think you meant flat seems. Raised seams reduces flight

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu May 18, 2023 8:51 am

And don't raised seams create more spin rate on pitches?
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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

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Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:29 am
311neers wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:10 am


For those wondering why our ERA is so high…and why we hit so well.

The balls are JUICED, no doubt about it. Seams might be raised too to slow arms down and spin rate. Definitely makes for more excitement!
You are right, balls are flying out. I think you meant flat seems. Raised seams reduces flight
I did see a ball recently and they are definitely flatter than previous balls. But, interesting pitching hasnt performed well across the board with flat seams, usually more speed and cut out of the arm with flat seams. Lack of quality pitching might be attributed to pitch clock/speed of game?

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by 311neers » Thu May 18, 2023 8:58 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:51 am
And don't raised seams create more spin rate on pitches?
I think raised seems slow the ball down and reduce speed and spin. Could be wrong here though, not too smart in the law of physics! Hahaha!

I've thrown both the NCAA raised seem ball and a flat seamed MLB ball. A lot more movement and run with the MLB flat seams ball, but if a hitter gets a hold of it, it's gone.

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

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311neers wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:55 am
Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:29 am
311neers wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:10 am


For those wondering why our ERA is so high…and why we hit so well.

The balls are JUICED, no doubt about it. Seams might be raised too to slow arms down and spin rate. Definitely makes for more excitement!
You are right, balls are flying out. I think you meant flat seems. Raised seams reduces flight
I did see a ball recently and they are definitely flatter than previous balls. But, interesting pitching hasnt performed well across the ball with flat seams, usually more speed and cut out of the arm with flat seams. Lack of quality pitching might be attributed to pitch clock/speed of game?
Have they changed the bats again? On Saturday what I thought routine flys kept carrying. It didn't even look like they hit it hard and were tracking to the fence. Granted wind was blowing out.

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Unread post by 311neers » Thu May 18, 2023 9:07 am

Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 9:02 am
311neers wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:55 am
Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:29 am
311neers wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:10 am


For those wondering why our ERA is so high…and why we hit so well.

The balls are JUICED, no doubt about it. Seams might be raised too to slow arms down and spin rate. Definitely makes for more excitement!
You are right, balls are flying out. I think you meant flat seems. Raised seams reduces flight
I did see a ball recently and they are definitely flatter than previous balls. But, interesting pitching hasnt performed well across the ball with flat seams, usually more speed and cut out of the arm with flat seams. Lack of quality pitching might be attributed to pitch clock/speed of game?
Have they changed the bats again? On Saturday what I thought routine flys kept carrying. It didn't even look like they hit it hard and were tracking to the fence. Granted wind was blowing out.
I'm not involved enough to know if they changed the bats but I feel like a new version/rules come out every year. At the Beav, most deep fly balls to LF turn into homers hahaha. 3700' elevation with 10+ MPH winds constantly. My guess is that it's more of a ball change than bats and I think you're right about it being flatter seams. Whatever it is, it's working for hitters and not pitchers! Haha

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

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WVAPPeer wrote:
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And don't raised seams create more spin rate on pitches?
For me I liked the raised seams. It felt I had more grip and more movement. ( I have small hands...don't judge) Flat seams felt slippery to me and less confident.

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Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 9:17 am
WVAPPeer wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:51 am
And don't raised seams create more spin rate on pitches?
For me I liked the raised seams. It felt I had more grip and more movement. ( I have small hands...don't judge) Flat seams felt slippery to me and less confident.
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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by hapapp » Thu May 18, 2023 12:12 pm

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Thu May 18, 2023 7:28 am
The NIL money would not come from school. It is someone that wants to sponsor a kid. The financials of the school are somewhat irrelevant in the equation. If T Boone Pickens wants Okie State to be a national contender in baseball, he can research the top 50 high school kids and offer a million each to come to Okie State to play baseball through an endorsement for the kids he gets.... realize dummying down how NIL works..just an example.
Do I think someone would do that, probably not ...as the sport is not as popular as bball and football.
That would be incredible, given he's dead. But, your point is valid.

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu May 18, 2023 12:58 pm

311neers wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:08 am
bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 5:58 am
It's hard to imagine any college baseball player getting what would be considered "huge" NIL money. I've read that a great majority of college baseball teams lose money. Even using a simple calculation of 13 scholarships at $30k per year that's about $400k then add in coaching salaries and travel costs and even an average team is at or over $1m per. I'm sure a major SEC school is easily double that. Gate receipts would need to run at 5,000 people at $10 each for 30 games to bring in $1.5m. I would think even a good G5 is less than half of that for gate. Corporate sponsors kick in some and I reckon the big conferences get some TV money from their networks.
NC State lost Tommy Tanks to LSU because of money. UGA NIL is going to to have to pony up to keep their freshman that just set the SEC homerun record. The top tier athletes whether it be football basketball or baseball are going to get paid because people want their teams to win that bad. Some of our players even have a value in my opinion, which is a tribute to Kermit and his portal/recruiting efforts, we’ve got some great players on this team!
Speaking of TT I just looked up his stats- holy cow he's batting .400 with 22 doubles, 18 bombs and 86 RBI. Clearly an example of a guy who should have gone pro.

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Re: 2023 Baseball Mega Thread

Unread post by 311neers » Thu May 18, 2023 1:12 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 12:58 pm
311neers wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:08 am
bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 5:58 am
It's hard to imagine any college baseball player getting what would be considered "huge" NIL money. I've read that a great majority of college baseball teams lose money. Even using a simple calculation of 13 scholarships at $30k per year that's about $400k then add in coaching salaries and travel costs and even an average team is at or over $1m per. I'm sure a major SEC school is easily double that. Gate receipts would need to run at 5,000 people at $10 each for 30 games to bring in $1.5m. I would think even a good G5 is less than half of that for gate. Corporate sponsors kick in some and I reckon the big conferences get some TV money from their networks.
NC State lost Tommy Tanks to LSU because of money. UGA NIL is going to to have to pony up to keep their freshman that just set the SEC homerun record. The top tier athletes whether it be football basketball or baseball are going to get paid because people want their teams to win that bad. Some of our players even have a value in my opinion, which is a tribute to Kermit and his portal/recruiting efforts, we’ve got some great players on this team!
Speaking of TT I just looked up his stats- holy cow he's batting .400 with 22 doubles, 18 bombs and 86 RBI. Clearly an example of a guy who should have gone pro.
I don't think he was eligible... HS or 3 years removed from high school. He was a freshman last year.
He didn't even get drafted out of HS which is absurd!

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