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AppDawg
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by AppDawg » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:48 pm
Saint3333 wrote:What is our record if games ended in the 7th inning? Unbelievable.
These stats are before today's game:
After 6 leading 6-4
... trailing 0-9
... tied 0-2
After 7 leading 4-3
... trailing 0-11
... tied 0-1
After 8 leading 4-2
... trailing 0-13
... tied 0-0
Record when leading after: Innning
1: 3-2
2: 3-2
3: 5-3
4: 5-3
5: 6-1
6: 6-4
7: 4-3
8: 4-2
Record when tied after: Innning
1: 3-5
2: 2-3
3: 1-4
4: 1-4
5: 0-5
6: 0-2
7: 0-1
8: 0-0
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3rd
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by 3rd » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:50 pm
JTApps1 wrote:3rd wrote:JTApps1 wrote:Even if he left Springs in for 1 batter too long it's hard to say that decision is completely responsible for all of the damage. GSU got 7 runs on 3 singles, catcher interference, an error, 2 walks, and a wild pitch that all came after Springs was pulled. We have to get someone who can come in and shut the door. Every really good team has a guy in the pen just for that, but nobody on our roster has been able to do it consistently. Leaving Springs in too long should have cost us 1 or 2 runs at most not 7. I agree that Billy has made bad decisions but he is probably scareed to take the starters out knowing what we have in the pen.
Did you not see who he brought it?
Yep, DeVrieze who worked a perdect inning yesterday. Who else should he go to? Thurber got through yesterday, but nearly blew the save. Whaley has struggled a ton lately, Joyce blew the lead Friday, and Farmer still isn' t healthy. Who do you suggest?
Didn't mind the first move, but still would have trusted Thurber for at least one inning nothing more. The move to Brill really surprised me didn't like it. But you can't tell me we don't have other arms in the pin who have not blows leads. Sending Springs out again set us up for failure. It has happened time and time again ND games come to mind. I mean as others have said, its the same thing over and over. One more thing we need a closer we haven't had a true closer since 2012. But then again we were spoiled that year.
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JTApps1
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by JTApps1 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:51 pm
AppDawg wrote:JTApps1 wrote:Even if he left Springs in for 1 batter too long it's hard to say that decision is completely responsible for all of the damage. GSU got 7 runs on 3 singles, catcher interference, an error, 2 walks, and a wild pitch that all came after Springs was pulled. We have to get someone who can come in and shut the door. Every really good team has a guy in the pen just for that, but nobody on our roster has been able to do it consistently. Leaving Springs in too long should have cost us 1 or 2 runs at most not 7. I agree that Billy has made bad decisions but he is probably scareed to take the starters out knowing what we have in the pen.
Springs should have never started the 8th. 113 pitches at that point. Finished with 121. He pitched great. Put us in solid position to win. Pat him on back and let the bullpen save it. Let them start with a clean slate rather than running the risk of having them enter in trouble. As I eluded to in my prior post, I am afraid Jones has created a bullpen full of headcases. They are pressing so hard due to the situations they are being put into that they can't do the simple things that got them where they are in the first place. Its the only logical explanation I can think of for the large number of wild pitches and 4 or 5 pitch walks.
Baseball is managing risks and thus far, Jones has proven to me he doesn't do that very well after the 7th inning. I noticed it last year, but thought he would learn (man were we spoiled with Pollard!). Halfway into year 2 its still the same. We have a team that if managed right, could be making noise nationally. As Saint just asked, how many games would we have won if we only played through 7 innings. It is a bad trend that has developed and I am not sure what is going to fix it. Harsh words I know, but something has to give.
I don't completely disagree, but the bullpen has come in to start innings and still blew the lead. We need someone out there to step up and become a go to guy. At this point its a coin flip.
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ViewCrew87
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by ViewCrew87 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:06 pm
Don't discount what over scheduling in Feb. has done to the confidence of this young team. They don't know how to finish with a lead. More on the job learnings for Jones is costing us this year.
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MountainMan2020
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by MountainMan2020 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:37 am
ViewCrew87 wrote:Don't discount what over scheduling in Feb. has done to the confidence of this young team. They don't know how to finish with a lead. More on the job learnings for Jones is costing us this year.
Bingo... Agree 100%. The schedule is a total disaster. Confidence is huge (both individually and as a team) in this game. All this talk about "it will pay off during the conference season" doesn't bear out over a 50 game season if you're not winning them.