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moehler · Unread post by **moehler** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:50 pm

said at the beginning of the year if we won more than 4 games it would have been a successful season, now we are looking at 6 maybe even 7 wins. Whats got me so excited is we absolutely dominated this game on both sides of the ball, 5 straight scoring drives, 4 tds, 1 field goal, and until the last 2 minutes of the game, they only had 1 drive over 70 yds for a td, the ENTIRE GAME. On the SBC board one of the Ark fans based the lost on preparation, and lack of focus, made the point that they had more talent than us, I totally disagree, overall, we have more talent than them, if it wasn't for special teams, we would have beaten them by 3 tds. Said at the beginning of the year on the SBC board that you better beat us now, because you will not beat us in a year or two....right now feel real @$#$ing good about my prediction!!!

Unread post by **Yosef** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:01 pm

moehler wrote:said at the beginning of the year if we won more than 4 games it would have been a successful season, now we are looking at 6 maybe even 7 wins. Whats got me so excited is we absolutely dominated this game on both sides of the ball, 5 straight scoring drives, 4 tds, 1 field goal, and until the last 2 minutes of the game, they only had 1 drive over 70 yds for a td, the ENTIRE GAME. On the SBC board one of the Ark fans based the lost on preparation, and lack of focus, made the point that they had more talent than us, I totally disagree, overall, we have more talent than them, if it wasn't for special teams, we would have beaten them by 3 tds. Said at the beginning of the year on the SBC board that you better beat us now, because you will not beat us in a year or two....right now feel real @$#$ing good about my prediction!!!

This is the second post I've seen from someone assuming we have 6 wins. I love where this team is headed but this is still the same team that lost to liberty. Idaho is not a shoe in and we should certainly not look past them. Let's not get too big too quick.

AppinATL · Unread post by **AppinATL** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:15 pm

Yosef wrote:
moehler wrote:said at the beginning of the year if we won more than 4 games it would have been a successful season, now we are looking at 6 maybe even 7 wins. Whats got me so excited is we absolutely dominated this game on both sides of the ball, 5 straight scoring drives, 4 tds, 1 field goal, and until the last 2 minutes of the game, they only had 1 drive over 70 yds for a td, the ENTIRE GAME. On the SBC board one of the Ark fans based the lost on preparation, and lack of focus, made the point that they had more talent than us, I totally disagree, overall, we have more talent than them, if it wasn't for special teams, we would have beaten them by 3 tds. Said at the beginning of the year on the SBC board that you better beat us now, because you will not beat us in a year or two....right now feel real @$#$ing good about my prediction!!!
This is the second post I've seen from someone assuming we have 6 wins. I love where this team is headed but this is still the same team that lost to liberty. Idaho is not a shoe in and we should certainly not look past them. Let's not get too big too quick.

I agree that we should still keep expectations in check and not count any wins until we actually get them but I have to wholeheartedly disagree that this is the same team that lost to Liberty.

moehler · Unread post by **moehler** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:16 pm

what the hell, I never said we would get 6 or 7 wins, I just made the point that we have a shot at it, sorry you misunderstood, as far as this team goes, this is not the same team that lost to Liberty, Woody finally has taught his defense to his players, and they are responding in a huge way, if we played liberty right now, this team would win by 4 tds. As far as the offense goes, SS and the staff had the intelligence to scrap the spread offense and go to a more power back running game, in midseason, dam smart, shows that him and his staff really know what they are doing, and are willing to make changes, something we didn't see the last 3 years before SS took over. Now, back to total number of wins, I don't expect to win next week, LLU is dam good, huge line on both sides, and we will get their best effort, they will not overlook us, but Idaho is another story, think we can win that game.

appbio91 · Unread post by **appbio91** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:29 pm

I am not in in the locker room or on the field but I can pretty much guarantee you no one that matters is looking past ULL or Idaho. This team is out prove that they are not as sorry as we all thought a few weeks ago. I promise you that even if we as fans are chalking another one up - the folks that matter have a rally big chip on their shoulder. That Liberty loss can not be under rated. It was a huge embarrassment....

moehler · Unread post by **moehler** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:51 pm

yes, losing to Liberty was embarrassing, but, it was 5 games ago, the last 4 games we are arguably playing the best football in the SBC, that's not luck, that's not bullshit, that's simply us out coaching, and out playing the competition, no one can argue that we didn't dominated this game, unexpected, you better believe it, but when I see a stat where we, from the mid second quarter to the last 2 minutes of the game, we outgained them 400 to 48, the defending SBC champions at their place, sorry, but that's great reason to get very excited about the future of the program, and to put the Liberty loss to bed.

appbio91 · Unread post by **appbio91** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:07 pm

moehler wrote:yes, losing to Liberty was embarrassing, but, it was 5 games ago, the last 4 games we are arguably playing the best football in the SBC, that's not luck, that's not bullshit, that's simply us out coaching, and out playing the competition, no one can argue that we didn't dominated this game, unexpected, you better believe it, but when I see a stat where we, from the mid second quarter to the last 2 minutes of the game, we outgained them 400 to 48, the defending SBC champions at their place, sorry, but that's great reason to get very excited about the future of the program, and to put the Liberty loss to bed.

Agree 100%, my point was the Liberty loss was a wake up call. We are for real no doubt. Two legit conference wins in a row. The great thing about next week is that it is our biggest conference challenge. No chance for a let down loss, nothing to lose go get it boys!!!

appbio91 · Unread post by **appbio91** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:15 pm

With App ,GaSo, Ull, Troy, UlM , AState and USA this conference is looking very good to me. I am so excited about the future. If some of the other teams can step up we could have a dog fight every week. How awesome would that be.

moehler · Unread post by **moehler** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:19 pm

sorry, misunderstood your point about Liberty, just think its totally pointless for some fans after a big win, to immediately use the "Liberty card", as a way to throw cold water on a win, at a time when we should be celebrating a huge, and unexpected victory.

MountainMan2020 · Unread post by **MountainMan2020** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:16 am

appbio91 wrote:With App ,GaSo, Ull, Troy, UlM , AState and USA this conference is looking very good to me. I am so excited about the future. If some of the other teams can step up we could have a dog fight every week. How awesome would that be.

Totally agree. This season has been so much more fun to watch week-in and week-out. Next few years are going to be a fun ride. Great home conference schedule next year as well.

EastHallApp · Unread post by **EastHallApp** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:50 am

Saying you lost because of lack of focus or effort or preparation is one of those cop outs people use to avoid admitting the other team was just better. Teams that aren't focused don't jump all over their opponent for a two-TD lead midway through the 1st quarter.

A-State gave us their best haymaker, and we absorbed it and kicked their asses. Never would have believed that would happen, but it did.

As far as "looking past" Idaho, I agree with the sentiment, but we're fans, we can look past whoever we want and it makes no difference.

diehardapp18 · Unread post by **diehardapp18** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:06 am

MountainMan2020 wrote:
appbio91 wrote:With App ,GaSo, Ull, Troy, UlM , AState and USA this conference is looking very good to me. I am so excited about the future. If some of the other teams can step up we could have a dog fight every week. How awesome would that be.
Totally agree. This season has been so much more fun to watch week-in and week-out. Next few years are going to be a fun ride. Great home conference schedule next year as well.

I'm being 100% serious when I say I wouldn't be surprised if this team put up a legitimate fight in Death Valley next September. This team is clearly playing with some kind of new passion and love they found in that bye week after the Liberty game. Against USA and Liberty... guys didn't seem to care that much at times. Just some nonchalant effort at times. Now they look completely different out there, everyone is flying around making plays and playing till they hear the whistle. They look so much more like a TEAM. Whatever attitude Scott & co. have instilled in these guys they have to keep it all offseason and BRING IT to Death Valley. Great finishes are all for naught if you don't start the season the right way.

AppAttack · Unread post by **AppAttack** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:07 am

This is so exciting to be a part of. The coaches and players have really turned things around the last 4 weeks and seem to be getting better and better. The running game is clicking on all cylinders which takes some pressure off our freshman QB (who is improving every week in his own right). The sky is the limit over the next few years. We just dominated a perennial Sun Belt power at their place. I'm excited to see what happens at ULL. I'm not counting any wins, but 6-6 would be a very successful first year especially since we would have been two kicks from 8-4. Proud Mountaineer here!

Unread post by **Yosef** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:49 am

moehler wrote:what the hell, I never said we would get 6 or 7 wins, I just made the point that we have a shot at it, sorry you misunderstood, as far as this team goes, this is not the same team that lost to Liberty, Woody finally has taught his defense to his players, and they are responding in a huge way, if we played liberty right now, this team would win by 4 tds. As far as the offense goes, SS and the staff had the intelligence to scrap the spread offense and go to a more power back running game, in midseason, dam smart, shows that him and his staff really know what they are doing, and are willing to make changes, something we didn't see the last 3 years before SS took over. Now, back to total number of wins, I don't expect to win next week, LLU is dam good, huge line on both sides, and we will get their best effort, they will not overlook us, but Idaho is another story, think we can win that game.

You said we are now looking at 6 maybe 7 wins, implying a 6th win is guaranteed. Don't mistake me, I'm more excited about this app team than I have been in several years and love the direction we are going. We are playing much better than before but this is exactly the same team that played liberty. We don't have any new recruits who joined the team mid season that I am aware of. Should we walk over Idaho? Yep. But records are thrown out the door at kickoff. Let's not pull a Michigan and look past an opponent we should crush.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:07 am

I agree that you shouldn't look at any opponent and count the game in the win column before kickoff. I understand that as fans we are afforded the ability to do this but it sets us up for a meltdown when the actual game doesn't go our way. I love to see fans apply geometry to football outcomes. If A is greater than B and B is greater than C, then A is greater than C. I saw where a GS fan was expecting victory over Navy because they lost to Rutgers. Well today he wakes up to the realization that his team got rolled by a team that lost to Rutgers.

I think that we stand a good chance for wins in our next two games to come away with a victory and here's why. Louisiana is bigger up front on both sides of the ball but we do have some advantages that can be exploited with preparation and game planning. Louisiana's secondary isn't all that great so if we can use the run to set up the pass then we can move the ball. On the other side of the ball. The 3-4 defense is like the TO version on offense. You don't see it week in and week out so you don't have alot of tie to figure out blocking protection for the different blitz packages. As for Idaho, they are traveling across country to finish out a miserable season and I don't see them playing for 60 minutes. It is Senior day and we OWE it to this group to send them out as winners.

kiddbrewer · Unread post by **kiddbrewer** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:12 pm

MountainMan2020 wrote:Great home conference schedule next year as well.

I'm excited about the home schedule next year, but I am also excited about the 3 very drive able away games, for me that is.

appvette · Unread post by **appvette** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:22 pm

With so many starters returning, I think this team has to be a candidate for winning the conference next year and a chance to be the top G5 team in a couple years. Think of all these guys with two additional years of experience with a few extra stud recruits... Exciting times!