wagner is liberty's offensive coordinator and you know he took great joy redeeming those ass whipping's he took while at western. he was really hands on last night...i watched him. excluding the campbell game, apps defense is giving up 42.4 points per game. lastly, winners attract winners who want to play for winning programs. watch for that...players see empty stands and the l's add up and our prospects want to head to greener pastures...it's all linked. IMAGE IS EVERYTHING!

our 4-8 season had no issues with getting Shaedon Meadors or Jaylan Barbour to come to App.

Winning accounts for a lot, but some players will want to go where they can make a difference too.

You are right. There is a reason teams like N Mexico st, Idaho, Kansas always stink on the field. Recruits that have a choice to go anywhere aren't gonna pick these teams and lose for 4 years. The Apps are at a critical time where we must turn this around or risk becoming a yearly cellar dweller

3timeapps wrote:You are right. There is a reason teams like N Mexico st, Idaho, Kansas always stink on the field. Recruits that have a choice to go anywhere aren't gonna pick these teams and lose for 4 years. The Apps are at a critical time where we must turn this around or risk becoming a yearly cellar dweller

If we're not careful the "it's going to take some time" way of thinking could turn into an acceptance of a "culture of losing"

My thoughts exactly watuaga man