Luke Combs

[AppWyo]

On the contractual idea, I am with Luke 100%.
Not sure how contractually it would work, my comment on a thread on YC a long time ago was related to multi year contracts. If I had enough funds to fund several players for nil, I would want a contract that would be multi-year. Player does not get all of the individual yearly amount. Some deferred. To get all, player has to stay 3 years or (based on eligibility left if they were a transfer). Forfeit if leave early or does something detrimental to get released from team, etc.

If we have learned anything from this fiasco, contracts aren’t worth the ink they are written in.

Under the current way of things they are not. Players need to unionize and have a CBA so we can have contracts. Going to have to be like the NFL.

If you get unions you get strikes. Do you really want strikes?

Not to mention organized crime.

[AppWyo]

On the contractual idea, I am with Luke 100%.
Not sure how contractually it would work, my comment on a thread on YC a long time ago was related to multi year contracts. If I had enough funds to fund several players for nil, I would want a contract that would be multi-year. Player does not get all of the individual yearly amount. Some deferred. To get all, player has to stay 3 years or (based on eligibility left if they were a transfer). Forfeit if leave early or does something detrimental to get released from team, etc.

If we have learned anything from this fiasco, contracts aren’t worth the ink they are written in.

Sure they do. They work in everyday life as well as the NFL, NBA and MLB. Although I am skeptical of the dog and pony show meeting in DC last week, maybe it is a start to getting some type of legislation at a federal to work and contracts follow that in some form or fashion. Someone will challenge it like everyone challenges any type of to law. If changes need to made out of litigation, so be it. Doing nothing is not the answer IMO

Basically, the reason people want congress involved is so the haves can keep on having and take everything the have nots have.

[pop5app]

On the contractual idea, I am with Luke 100%.
Not sure how contractually it would work, my comment on a thread on YC a long time ago was related to multi year contracts. If I had enough funds to fund several players for nil, I would want a contract that would be multi-year. Player does not get all of the individual yearly amount. Some deferred. To get all, player has to stay 3 years or (based on eligibility left if they were a transfer). Forfeit if leave early or does something detrimental to get released from team, etc.

If we have learned anything from this fiasco, contracts aren’t worth the ink they are written in.

Sure they do. They work in everyday life as well as the NFL, NBA and MLB. Although I am skeptical of the dog and pony show meeting in DC last week, maybe it is a start to getting some type of legislation at a federal to work and contracts follow that in some form or fashion. Someone will challenge it like everyone challenges any type of to law. If changes need to made out of litigation, so be it. Doing nothing is not the answer IMO

Yes, that “dog and pony show” probably can’t turn out good for us. I don’t believe that there was any G6 presence( maybe the AAC Commissioner).

[AppSt94]

On the contractual idea, I am with Luke 100%.
Not sure how contractually it would work, my comment on a thread on YC a long time ago was related to multi year contracts. If I had enough funds to fund several players for nil, I would want a contract that would be multi-year. Player does not get all of the individual yearly amount. Some deferred. To get all, player has to stay 3 years or (based on eligibility left if they were a transfer). Forfeit if leave early or does something detrimental to get released from team, etc.

If we have learned anything from this fiasco, contracts aren’t worth the ink they are written in.

Sure they do. They work in everyday life as well as the NFL, NBA and MLB. Although I am skeptical of the dog and pony show meeting in DC last week, maybe it is a start to getting some type of legislation at a federal to work and contracts follow that in some form or fashion. Someone will challenge it like everyone challenges any type of to law. If changes need to made out of litigation, so be it. Doing nothing is not the answer IMO

I was speaking in terms of the current landscape of college athletics and referencing the situation with the Duke QB that walked from a two year deal for a better deal at Miami.

[AppSt94]

On the contractual idea, I am with Luke 100%.
Not sure how contractually it would work, my comment on a thread on YC a long time ago was related to multi year contracts. If I had enough funds to fund several players for nil, I would want a contract that would be multi-year. Player does not get all of the individual yearly amount. Some deferred. To get all, player has to stay 3 years or (based on eligibility left if they were a transfer). Forfeit if leave early or does something detrimental to get released from team, etc.

If we have learned anything from this fiasco, contracts aren’t worth the ink they are written in.

Under the current way of things they are not. Players need to unionize and have a CBA so we can have contracts. Going to have to be like the NFL.

Yes. I understand that is how it would work. I don’t think that it will happen.

It's the only way this can be solved, and you're right, it can't happen. In many states, state employees are prohibited from unionizing. The end.

I think that point about state employees is crucial and gets lost in the position of creating unions and CBAs solves everything. Laws would have to change and that creates a whole new can of worms.

[T-Dog]

Now that my angry reaction is out of the way, here's my general thoughts.

Two-year contracts will only work with a firm structure in place. Right now there's not even a frame of good structure in place to regulate the NIL world. I'm leaning toward regulating the agents first and foremost and that could eliminate a lot of nonsense.

The FCS argument is dumb. Three and a half years ago Luke sat on College Gameday and said App State was ready for a power conference invite. Now his inner monologue is saying App should move back to FCS so we could dominate and win.

I remember the FCS Playoffs. I was there. And not that many more people showed up. App rarely filled the seats in the playoffs. Even some of the memorable ones.

Look at the Fargo Dome at 11:07 of the video below. NDSU fans no longer cared about the playoffs, and they would win it almost every year.

A G6 is going to upset a P4 in the CFB Playoff. Why not App State? Even making the CFB Playoff would be much better than playing in the FCS Playoffs again.

App State has the most passionate football fanbase in the Group of 5/6 and has one of the best Sun Belt men's basketball records in the last seven years. We're not falling behind our peers no matter what sales line Gillin might say.

If we go 11-2 or the like this fall and are in the conversation for a CFB Playoff bid because the American's top coaches just got raided again, ain't no one with a right mind should wish for App State to be playing Furman and Wofford in October/November.

[AppStFan1]

On the contractual idea, I am with Luke 100%.
Not sure how contractually it would work, my comment on a thread on YC a long time ago was related to multi year contracts. If I had enough funds to fund several players for nil, I would want a contract that would be multi-year. Player does not get all of the individual yearly amount. Some deferred. To get all, player has to stay 3 years or (based on eligibility left if they were a transfer). Forfeit if leave early or does something detrimental to get released from team, etc.

If we have learned anything from this fiasco, contracts aren’t worth the ink they are written in.

Under the current way of things they are not. Players need to unionize and have a CBA so we can have contracts. Going to have to be like the NFL.

If you get unions you get strikes. Do you really want strikes?

Not to mention organized crime.

We got unorganized crime going on now. Here is the advantage for schools with strikes. Players in the NFL make tons more money and they can't even last long on a strike. They rarely happen. College athletes won't be able to strike as much as the pros do. Also, remember that these guys are younger and more naive so they won't manage their money as well. They can't afford to have checks stop coming in. I don't think strikes will happen much at all in college.

[AppStFan1]

On the contractual idea, I am with Luke 100%.
Not sure how contractually it would work, my comment on a thread on YC a long time ago was related to multi year contracts. If I had enough funds to fund several players for nil, I would want a contract that would be multi-year. Player does not get all of the individual yearly amount. Some deferred. To get all, player has to stay 3 years or (based on eligibility left if they were a transfer). Forfeit if leave early or does something detrimental to get released from team, etc.

If we have learned anything from this fiasco, contracts aren’t worth the ink they are written in.

Under the current way of things they are not. Players need to unionize and have a CBA so we can have contracts. Going to have to be like the NFL.

Yes. I understand that is how it would work. I don’t think that it will happen.

It will eventually happen. I don't know if it will be like that for App but it will be at least for the power programs. ADs have been floating it around. It might take a little while but we will have to get there. Boosters and coaches have to be tired of not having players locked into contracts and the way to do it is have a CBA. If we had a CBA then we know of one big name booster that would donate to NIL after seeing the video of Luke.

[Seattleapp]

Now that my angry reaction is out of the way, here's my general thoughts.

Two-year contracts will only work with a firm structure in place. Right now there's not even a frame of good structure in place to regulate the NIL world. I'm leaning toward regulating the agents first and foremost and that could eliminate a lot of nonsense.

The FCS argument is dumb. Three and a half years ago Luke sat on College Gameday and said App State was ready for a power conference invite. Now his inner monologue is saying App should move back to FCS so we could dominate and win.

I remember the FCS Playoffs. I was there. And not that many more people showed up. App rarely filled the seats in the playoffs. Even some of the memorable ones.

Look at the Fargo Dome at 11:07 of the video below. NDSU fans no longer cared about the playoffs, and they would win it almost every year.

A G6 is going to upset a P4 in the CFB Playoff. Why not App State? Even making the CFB Playoff would be much better than playing in the FCS Playoffs again.

App State has the most passionate football fanbase in the Group of 5/6 and has one of the best Sun Belt men's basketball records in the last seven years. We're not falling behind our peers no matter what sales line Gillin might say.

If we go 11-2 or the like this fall and are in the conversation for a CFB Playoff bid because the American's top coaches just got raided again, ain't no one with a right mind should wish for App State to be playing Furman and Wofford in October/November.

My only quibble is you can look at Montana or Montana state and their stadiums were sold out all season to include the playoffs. The title game in Nashville was packed. Most bowl games didn’t come close to matching that atmosphere. And honestly our playoff games back in the day were a thousand times more exciting than our bowl games have been. I’m not saying drop down, but to say there is no excitement for the good fcs playoff games is not true.

[APPdiesel]

Luke can go put on baby blue for all I care now. He didn’t even graduate.

[AppGrad78]

This is why we can’t have nice things at App. It’s because we turn on our own at the slightest provocation.

[spacemonkey]

NIT in College Football is the answer. I don't blame Luke. NIL is a joke. NIT would be fun football and the games would matter a little more than bowl games.

I don't know the answer, but the school pride amongst players does seem to be zilch. I love the company I work for, but not enough to stay if another offered more money. I really don't blame anyone but the colleges. The players should try to get paid...the schools should have a little pride and make their own rules and invite teams that want to play by the rules. The SEC may want to stay with NIL. I wish the ACC/Big Ten would create a true college atheletes league. I think you would find that more interest is in the true college league. (I would hope App would choose the College athletes path)

[Seattleapp]

Luke can go put on baby blue for all I care now. He didn’t even graduate.

Well this is just a dumb take

[Seattleapp]

This is why we can’t have nice things at App. It’s because we turn on our own at the slightest provocation.

The insecurity on this board is staggering.

[scatman77]

Luke can go put on baby blue for all I care now. He didn’t even graduate.

That is the most assinine comment I've read in a long time. To ask anyone to put on uncheat colors is just nasty. Besides that I'd rather have a loyal popular fan who didn't graduate over a disloyal blue boot licking graduate who cheers against his alma mater.

[bcoach]

Luke can go put on baby blue for all I care now. He didn’t even graduate.

Of those who did graduate, how many are having as much fun and making as much money?

[APPdiesel]

Luke can go put on baby blue for all I care now. He didn’t even graduate.

Well this is just a dumb take

Why? App gave Eric turncoat Church every opportunity to be the celebrity face of the program, let him sell his merch line at KBS, and he defected to UNC…and he actually holds a degree from App. Why continue to support Luke when App gave him every chance to be the celebrity face of the program, put him on Game Day, then he has idiotic takes like “let’s go back to FCS?”

[bcoach]

It is hard for me to understand how anyone would look to the gonvernment for a solution.
Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, always will be a bad idea. It was based on a false assumption. " The schools are making millions off the backs of the players" so they need to be paid. Well folks if that is the case then we don't need LC to donate anything. Just use those millions that are being made.

[BambooRdApp]

Luke can go put on baby blue for all I care now. He didn’t even graduate.

Well this is just a dumb take

Why? App gave Eric turncoat Church every opportunity to be the celebrity face of the program, let him sell his merch line at KBS, and he defected to UNC…and he actually holds a degree from App. Why continue to support Luke when App gave him every chance to be the celebrity face of the program, put him on Game Day, then he has idiotic takes like “let’s go back to FCS?”

Making a comment on his thoughts around what he would like to see App do in terms of football is not even in the same stratosphere as Church supporting UNC on the daily. In the same interview above, he states that he loves App. St. etc. Seems strange that one would see these ideas as similar.

Side note, the Eric Church thing does not bother me at all. Root for whomever you want to be a fan of. If it were Stink-y, maybe my thoughts would change

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Who is Eric Church?