Luke Combs

[AppStFan1]

NIT in College Football is the answer. I don't blame Luke. NIL is a joke. NIT would be fun football and the games would matter a little more than bowl games.

I don't know the answer, but the school pride amongst players does seem to be zilch. I love the company I work for, but not enough to stay if another offered more money. I really don't blame anyone but the colleges. The players should try to get paid...the schools should have a little pride and make their own rules and invite teams that want to play by the rules. The SEC may want to stay with NIL. I wish the ACC/Big Ten would create a true college atheletes league. I think you would find that more interest is in the true college league. (I would hope App would choose the College athletes path)

Luke is smart about his money and we need more in his financial bracket to be that smart. He wants to see loyalty and a return on his investment and that is how it should be. There are a lot of people with more money than brains who will blindly give just to have a chance to be good. I really wish all rich alumni and fans of schools would stop giving to NIL because that would drive down prices and allow us to pay off our debt more instead of making kids rich who don't care anything about us. I just can't give money to help pay kids more money than I myself make all for them to leave the school I love in a year while I am loyal. I will never fuel this disloyalty.

[BallantyneApp]

Who is Eric Church?

I believe he is a mythical character in a libertarian fantasy novel.

[Bootsy]

Let’s all breathe in deeply…breathe out…and Relax.

The argument here is regarding one fan’s opinion. Even if he’s famous, he is still just one fan. He didn’t give money before, doesn’t give now and probably won’t give in the future. No big deal. Everyone is entitled to vote with their wallet.

Combs has been a tremendous ambassador for App State. That’s why I’m having a difficult time understanding the pearl clutching and outrage from some of you.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Who is Eric Church?

I believe he is an evil mythical character in a libertarian fantasy novel.

FIFY

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Let’s all breathe in deeply…breathe out…and Relax.

The argument here is regarding one fan’s opinion. Even if he’s famous, he is still just one fan. He didn’t give money before, doesn’t give now and probably won’t give in the future. No big deal. Everyone is entitled to vote with their wallet.

Combs has been a tremendous ambassador for App State. That’s why I’m having a difficult time understanding the pearl clutching and outrage from some of you.

As long as he doesn't say "Go 'Neers", he's alright with me.

[appdaze]

Chasing the dragon has spread a sickness amongst the App base.

[APPdiesel]

Look, I’m as frustrated as the rest of you about the state of CFB, but to suggest our school leave a conference that was purpose built to be perfect for US because you miss beating up on Elon and playing in front of 16,000 is lunacy.

We may end back up in a new look FCS anyway if the “G5 should have its own playoff” people get their way. Do we REALLY want our most famous alums saying we should drop down to a division below that?

Luke’s opinion is his opinion, it isn’t policy and it isn’t going to dictate policy.

[BambooRdApp]

And he shouldn't be excommunicated for an opinion...

[AtlAppMan]

I like Luke and understand his feeling BUT even if you move back to FCS you will still be poached if you get any quality players. That is not an insulation from the catastrophe of college football today. The system is broken and as long as you are fielding teams in college you will be subjected to the impact. FCS is not what it was 15 yrs ago. I don't want to go back to that model either even though you get a championship game opportunity. In life, as you mature and progress to higher levels of achievement, you really can't go back. It is just the way it is. I don't want to be the old guy that was the stud HS QB and try to keep living that moment.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Haven’t read all of this and that G5 playoff debate is brutal but I throw this out. How about the 4 highest rated G5’s who don’t get the playoff spot play for a mini championship? Play the “semifinal games” at the home of the higher ranked schools then the two winners square off in a nice bowl game to give those players a great trip. Play it in Florida. You get the potential of an extra game - say in Boone (packed house) before school gets out and whoever loses sort of got their bowl game.

[AppSt94]

Haven’t read all of this and that G5 playoff debate is brutal but I throw this out. How about the 4 highest rated G5’s who don’t get the playoff spot play for a mini championship? Play the “semifinal games” at the home of the higher ranked schools then the two winners square off in a nice bowl game to give those players a great trip. Play it in Florida. You get the potential of an extra game - say in Boone (packed house) before school gets out and whoever loses sort of got their bowl game.

Anything that could lead to justifying a separation of G6 from P4 is a slippery slope.

[AtlAppMan]

Haven’t read all of this and that G5 playoff debate is brutal but I throw this out. How about the 4 highest rated G5’s who don’t get the playoff spot play for a mini championship? Play the “semifinal games” at the home of the higher ranked schools then the two winners square off in a nice bowl game to give those players a great trip. Play it in Florida. You get the potential of an extra game - say in Boone (packed house) before school gets out and whoever loses sort of got their bowl game.

Anything that could lead to justifying a separation of G6 from P4 is a slippery slope.

Totally agree and really what is the difference in the above and a bowl? That mini whatever really doesn't mean any more than the players going to a bowl, does it? If you go that path you are repeating history.

[Saint3333]

Let he who has a more positive impact on the program cast the first stone.

Luke is a great ambassador of App State.

[AppStFan1]

And he shouldn't be excommunicated for an opinion...

Agreed. Especially not an opinion that is sick and vile and something to condemn. It is okay he has it. It is not policy and won't be with our current admin. As for him not giving to NIL I don't think anyone can blame him. He has worked very hard for his money and is choosing not to throw it down a rabbit hole. Luke has been a vocal supporter of App State and we should all appreciate that.

[fjblair]

Many App State fans feel much like he does. Get over it.

[kornegaylw]

I agree with Luke on all points...I'll say that rather than FCS as it exisit today though I think being at the "Teir II" level of football like we were back in the original FCS days is were we will fit best. I bet if we had a chance to speak with Luke he would agree.

Competing against peers on a national stage at a level where we are relevant and competitive.

Let the Top 30-50 teams be Teir 1, the remaining teams in Div 1 make up Teir II and the current FCS can be Teir III.

[Bigdaddyg1]

I know I’ve asked this question before but I don’t know if anyone ever really provided a clear answer so I’ll ask again. First it’s easy to see and understand the difference in D3, D2 and FCS levels of football- scholarship numbers and other predetermined factors. I get that there is also a general divide between levels of programs based on athletic budgets but who officially decided that there are P4 (or whatever label we go by) and Group of 5, G6, etc?

I’ve never understood why the “highest” level (D1) football is allowed to be broken into basically another level. At the FCS level there isn’t a segregation of schools. Did the NCAA actually officially determine this? I’m stunned that the presidents of the lower level (G5) allow this to exist. Even though the reality exists that for the most part schools at our level struggle to compete with larger budget schools that has never made any sense to me.

[bcoach]

I know I’ve asked this question before but I don’t know if anyone ever really provided a clear answer so I’ll ask again. First it’s easy to see and understand the difference in D3, D2 and FCS levels of football- scholarship numbers and other predetermined factors. I get that there is also a general divide between levels of programs based on athletic budgets but who officially decided that there are P4 (or whatever label we go by) and Group of 5, G6, etc?

I’ve never understood why the “highest” level (D1) football is allowed to be broken into basically another level. At the FCS level there isn’t a segregation of schools. Did the NCAA actually officially determine this? I’m stunned that the presidents of the lower level (G5) allow this to exist. Even though the reality exists that for the most part schools at our level struggle to compete with larger budget schools that has never made any sense to me.

The presidents have no say in the matter and neither does the NCAA. ESPN runs that show.

[t4pizza]

I know I’ve asked this question before but I don’t know if anyone ever really provided a clear answer so I’ll ask again. First it’s easy to see and understand the difference in D3, D2 and FCS levels of football- scholarship numbers and other predetermined factors. I get that there is also a general divide between levels of programs based on athletic budgets but who officially decided that there are P4 (or whatever label we go by) and Group of 5, G6, etc?

I’ve never understood why the “highest” level (D1) football is allowed to be broken into basically another level. At the FCS level there isn’t a segregation of schools. Did the NCAA actually officially determine this? I’m stunned that the presidents of the lower level (G5) allow this to exist. Even though the reality exists that for the most part schools at our level struggle to compete with larger budget schools that has never made any sense to me.

It was part of the negotiations during the initial football playoff committee discussions, the other schools agreed that that the (P5 at the time) would be allowed greater control over making rules for themselves (the other schools could follow if they wanted) and the NCAA agreed to this. Here is an older article from back then that basically explains it.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... -autonomy/

[Bigdaddyg1]

I know I’ve asked this question before but I don’t know if anyone ever really provided a clear answer so I’ll ask again. First it’s easy to see and understand the difference in D3, D2 and FCS levels of football- scholarship numbers and other predetermined factors. I get that there is also a general divide between levels of programs based on athletic budgets but who officially decided that there are P4 (or whatever label we go by) and Group of 5, G6, etc?

I’ve never understood why the “highest” level (D1) football is allowed to be broken into basically another level. At the FCS level there isn’t a segregation of schools. Did the NCAA actually officially determine this? I’m stunned that the presidents of the lower level (G5) allow this to exist. Even though the reality exists that for the most part schools at our level struggle to compete with larger budget schools that has never made any sense to me.

It was part of the negotiations during the initial football playoff committee discussions, the other schools agreed that that the (P5 at the time) would be allowed greater control over making rules for themselves (the other schools could follow if they wanted) and the NCAA agreed to this. Here is an older article from back then that basically explains it.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... -autonomy/

I scanned through that article but how was it officially decided or adopted that within D1 football that there are certified power schools and non-power schools? Perhaps I’m just missing something but at some point different levels were set based upon set criteria and that makes sense to me. We existed at the FCS level based upon number of scholarships and I guess some other things. I believe D3 and maybe D2 do not formally give athletic scholarships. The basic question is who is as given the authority to decide D1 football programs like this? As far as I can tell no other college athletics is separated like football. I do get the reality it really seems as if the larger conferences simply decided it’s going to be this way.