ACC

[BallantyneApp]

just a reminder with the AAC came calling we didn't even meet the minimum level in athletic money to get in. I'm glad we didn't jump, all the good teams left.

However I do like the idea of regional conference with ECU, Marshall, etc. Would make for great rivalries. The question is, where do dook and Wake go?

FYI we had a bigger budget than fau, UTSA and uab in 2023 so I’m not sure about that.

[AppinVA]

just a reminder with the AAC came calling we didn't even meet the minimum level in athletic money to get in. I'm glad we didn't jump, all the good teams left.

However I do like the idea of regional conference with ECU, Marshall, etc. Would make for great rivalries. The question is, where do dook and Wake go?

FYI we had a bigger budget than fau, UTSA and uab in 2023 so I’m not sure about that.

I’m not saying Captain Morgan is one, actually I don’t think he is, but we have a large “we can’t” populous among us.

[Pikapp79]

The ACC will be a shell of its current self in 4-5 years. The top programs will bolt and be replaced with lesser options.

[Mjohn1988]

Wake not dropping to G5 because of basketball...? They haven't been good in basketball in 20 years or so.

But they have been good and they won’t let go of that. Think about it, if we had not moved up to FBS and had like 10 mediocre years in FCS would you have been willing to move down to division 2 ?

[BambooRdApp]

Wake not dropping to G5 because of basketball...? They haven't been good in basketball in 20 years or so.

But they have been good and they won’t let go of that. Think about it, if we had not moved up to FBS and had like 10 mediocre years in FCS would you have been willing to move down to division 2 ?

They may not have an option. If another Power conference does not see value, they will be relegated.
Vandy is just lucky they were in SEC before all this realignment started. Otherwise, they may be looking for a new lesser conference.

[Mjohn1988]

Wake not dropping to G5 because of basketball...? They haven't been good in basketball in 20 years or so.

But they have been good and they won’t let go of that. Think about it, if we had not moved up to FBS and had like 10 mediocre years in FCS would you have been willing to move down to division 2 ?

They may not have an option. If another Power conference does not see value, they will be relegated.
Vandy is just lucky they were in SEC before all this realignment started. Otherwise, they may be looking for a new lesser conference.

I actually think Wake simply based on athletics belongs in the G5. Without basketball Duke could fit in the G5 too. But due to the degrees they offer both would have a big advantage in any G5 conference. MD’s and lawyers have money to donate.

[AppSt94]

There were more parameters for joining the AAC than budget.

[ASUFan4863]

One of the “we cant” above me

[AppSt94]

If we could, we would. It’s not that hard to comprehend.

[appdaze]

Wake has a 1.8 billion dollar endowment. Duke has a 12.7 billion dollar endowment. Both have s8gnificant medical schools known nation wide. Yall are nuts if you think a lower p4/p5 whatever happens wouldn't pick these schools up for their money and their academic profiles.

[BallantyneApp]

Wake has a 1.8 billion dollar endowment. Duke has a 12.7 billion dollar endowment. Both have s8gnificant medical schools known nation wide. Yall are nuts if you think a lower p4/p5 whatever happens wouldn't pick these schools up for their money and their academic profiles.

Duke is not going below P4

Wake might have a problem. They don’t have the national fan base that duke does. They don’t have a large following locally either. They could very well find themselves in an OSU-WSU situation.

The good news for wake is if there’s a mass exodus of like 10 schools there will be a minimum of $750MM to rebuild the ACC.

[BallantyneApp]

If we could, we would. It’s not that hard to comprehend.

One of the barriers was just removed with our new designation.

One of the barriers will never be removed with our location.

One of the barriers is the tv partner which may or may not change.

[bcoach]

Even as bad as the ACC has become in Basketball you really think we would fit? You really think this fan base could live with 2-3 wins a year?

[BambooRdApp]

We would not be playing UNC, FSU, Clemson, Ville or The U...they all gone
I like our odds in the revised conference if we get more TV money...in football anyway...not confident in other sports..the conference becomes a higher level g5

[AppSt94]

If we could, we would. It’s not that hard to comprehend.

One of the barriers was just removed with our new designation.

One of the barriers will never be removed with our location.

One of the barriers is the tv partner which may or may not change.

That is true about the the new designation and that might be enough to move the needle now. But it wasn’t in play during the last overture. My understanding is that the location was a big issue and the lack of a full service hotel in Boone was a large part of that.

[AppSt94]

We would not be playing UNC, FSU, Clemson, Ville or The U...they all gone
I like our odds in the revised conference if we get more TV money...in football anyway...not confident in other sports..the conference becomes a higher level g5

What makes you so sure that we would get more money? The next round of reshuffling is more likely to bring the majority of teams back to our current situation than it would elevate us.

[Stonewall]

We aren’t exactly tearing up the Sunbelt.

[BambooRdApp]

We would not be playing UNC, FSU, Clemson, Ville or The U...they all gone
I like our odds in the revised conference if we get more TV money...in football anyway...not confident in other sports..the conference becomes a higher level g5

What makes you so sure that we would get more money? The next round of reshuffling is more likely to bring the majority of teams back to our current situation than it would elevate us.

Not sure we would. That is an assumption that I would think that if our athletics dept ever considers a move ..that more money would be in a TV contract. If not, we should stay where we are....or just move to a regional conference like we are in with maybe a few different players involved (EasyU, etc.)
Money is driving the bus...even more so than the past....and we need as much as we can get to compete....as such, If we want to stay at D1 and compete in a better conference, on paper, we probably need more money.
Otherwise, stay where we are.
There can be a variety of reasons Tx. St. is considering a move (if true there are discussions going on)..but high on that list is getting more money to compete....and more TV money is one of the sources for funding...

[AppSt94]

We would not be playing UNC, FSU, Clemson, Ville or The U...they all gone
I like our odds in the revised conference if we get more TV money...in football anyway...not confident in other sports..the conference becomes a higher level g5

What makes you so sure that we would get more money? The next round of reshuffling is more likely to bring the majority of teams back to our current situation than it would elevate us.

Not sure we would. That is an assumption that I would think that if our athletics dept ever considers a move ..that more money would be in a TV contract. If not, we should stay where we are....or just move to a regional conference like we are in with maybe a few different players involved (EasyU, etc.)
Money is driving the bus...even more so than the past....and we need as much as we can get to compete....as such, If we want to stay at D1 and compete in a better conference, on paper, we probably need more money.
Otherwise, stay where we are.
There can be a variety of reasons Tx. St. is considering a move (if true there are discussions going on)..but high on that list is getting more money to compete....and more TV money is one of the sources for funding...

Agree with all of this. Apologies if my comment sounded contentious. It wasn’t meant to be. I think some folks feel like there is more money to be had by switching conferences but like you stated. It’s not a guarantee.

[Saint3333]

Switching conferences isn’t going to get our fanbase to give more money and no conference we join is going to be a windfall in regards to TV money.