Roster/Staff Updates

[Bootsy]

Fans demand an OC.
Dowell hires an OC.

Fans still bitc*.

We are doomed.

If he hired an offensive coordinator who won’t be calling plays, then what’s he there for? It sure looks like DLO hired a figurehead but will still try and do it all himself. If that’s the case fans may have a right to be aggravated by this. I guess we’ll have to wait and see

Related to your first post - You are a toxic degenerate on this board. You love to twist people’s word, mainly mine, to fit whatever agenda you are pushing for. I try to explain things but you prove time and again that you simply don’t have the mental capacity to understand it. I truly feel sorry for you.

I don’t know if this is a good hire or not because I have no experience with the new hire. However, neither does anyone else who is calling it a bad hire.

Related to your second post - One huge benefit is having a guy in the booth specifically looking at how to adjust the offense during the game. DLo could hopefully spend less time on the iPad mid drives, and spend more time fulfilling his other duties.

You resort to ad hominem attacks because people disagree with you about DLO?

C’mon, man…you’re better than that. We’re seeing promising signs, but none of us know how this season will play out.

[AppSt94]

I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.

All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

[311neers]

I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.

All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

Here’s an idea…instead of saving money for a potential $1.4Mbuyout, why not use those funds this year for NIL?!

DLo is cooked if we’ve already raised future buyout money instead of spending it to win games now.

[ASUFan4863]

I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.

All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

You are the same guy who told everyone the program didn’t have enough money to fire Clark. Just so everyone is aware here.

[ASUFan4863]

Fans demand an OC.
Dowell hires an OC.

Fans still bitc*.

We are doomed.

If he hired an offensive coordinator who won’t be calling plays, then what’s he there for? It sure looks like DLO hired a figurehead but will still try and do it all himself. If that’s the case fans may have a right to be aggravated by this. I guess we’ll have to wait and see

Related to your first post - You are a toxic degenerate on this board. You love to twist people’s word, mainly mine, to fit whatever agenda you are pushing for. I try to explain things but you prove time and again that you simply don’t have the mental capacity to understand it. I truly feel sorry for you.

I don’t know if this is a good hire or not because I have no experience with the new hire. However, neither does anyone else who is calling it a bad hire.

Related to your second post - One huge benefit is having a guy in the booth specifically looking at how to adjust the offense during the game. DLo could hopefully spend less time on the iPad mid drives, and spend more time fulfilling his other duties.

You resort to ad hominem attacks because people disagree with you about DLO?

C’mon, man…you’re better than that. We’re seeing promising signs, but none of us know how this season will play out.

Just sick of Seattle App taking what I say and twisting it into something completely different. I don’t want to assume their gender, but this guy is obnoxious and needs to go.

[ASUFan4863]

Things are finally looking up on the mountain again. It’s been several years of poor recruiting, poor coaching, poor development, major mental health issues and just massive disappointment. The program was an undisciplined runaway train led by an incompetent coach. It is now back on tracks with a confident conductor!

[BambooRdApp]

Fans demand an OC.
Dowell hires an OC.

Fans still bitc*.

We are doomed.

If he hired an offensive coordinator who won’t be calling plays, then what’s he there for? It sure looks like DLO hired a figurehead but will still try and do it all himself. If that’s the case fans may have a right to be aggravated by this. I guess we’ll have to wait and see

Related to your first post - You are a toxic degenerate on this board. You love to twist people’s word, mainly mine, to fit whatever agenda you are pushing for. I try to explain things but you prove time and again that you simply don’t have the mental capacity to understand it. I truly feel sorry for you.

I don’t know if this is a good hire or not because I have no experience with the new hire. However, neither does anyone else who is calling it a bad hire.

Related to your second post - One huge benefit is having a guy in the booth specifically looking at how to adjust the offense during the game. DLo could hopefully spend less time on the iPad mid drives, and spend more time fulfilling his other duties.

You resort to ad hominem attacks because people disagree with you about DLO?

C’mon, man…you’re better than that. We’re seeing promising signs, but none of us know how this season will play out.

Just sick of Seattle App taking what I say and twisting it into something completely different. I don’t want to assume their gender, but this guy is obnoxious and needs to go.

1. SeattleApp replied to 311..not you.
2. What the freak does gender got to do with it?
3. Got to go ..it's a message board. Maybe you need a break.

[pop5app]

I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.

All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

Man, I hope that’s a joke! If not, then it will be another pathetic athletic decision.

[hapapp]

Things are finally looking up on the mountain again. It’s been several years of poor recruiting, poor coaching, poor development, major mental health issues and just massive disappointment. The program was an undisciplined runaway train led by an incompetent coach. It is now back on tracks with a confident conductor!

Do just like to bait people? I think we all hope that things are on track but given this year's results no one, not even you, know whether we go 1-11 or 11-1. Maybe everyone just needs to be patient and see how things work out. Moreover, there's not a thing that anyone here can do about any way.

[AppStFan1]

I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.

All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

I would normally agree but that is no guarantee. The same thing happened with Clark a year before we let him go and many others, you included, were still defending that you did not think we would let him go. Even when I told you the day before it was official that I was hearing he was gone you still did not think it would happen. Not trashing on you but you never know. Loggains obviously knows this and these are the moves he is making. We just have to wait and see. I have never fully said my opinion on him other than I am being open minded and giving him a chance. I feel like those who were against or for him right off the bat without letting things play out usually just want to be able to say "I told you so". I gave Clark 4 years before I said for certain we need to move on and I feel like I would be unfair to not give Loggains at least 2 years, preferably 3 years, before making that determination. This is definitely a "prove it" year for Loggains after the failure to improve the record though.

[AppSt94]

All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

Here’s an idea…instead of saving money for a potential $1.4Mbuyout, why not use those funds this year for NIL?!

DLo is cooked if we’ve already raised future buyout money instead of spending it to win games now.

I imagine if they thought that was the solution, that would have been done.

[AppSt94]

All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

I would normally agree but that is no guarantee. The same thing happened with Clark a year before we let him go and many others, you included, were still defending that you did not think we would let him go. Even when I told you the day before it was official that I was hearing he was gone you still did not think it would happen. Not trashing on you but you never know. Loggains obviously knows this and these are the moves he is making. We just have to wait and see. I have never fully said my opinion on him other than I am being open minded and giving him a chance. I feel like those who were against or for him right off the bat without letting things play out usually just want to be able to say "I told you so". I gave Clark 4 years before I said for certain we need to move on and I feel like I would be unfair to not give Loggains at least 2 years, preferably 3 years, before making that determination. This is definitely a "prove it" year for Loggains after the failure to improve the record though.

I’m not interested in being right nor am I interested in saying I told you so if I’m right. I’ve provided my rationale for my opinion. I’ve been around long enough and interviewed enough people to identify character. His body language and sound bites were concerning from the get go. I’ve talked to enough people with different insights to the program that it’s pretty evident that he is not fostering a culture for success. As much as folks want to believe, these decisions aren’t made solely on records. Clark wasn’t fired for his on field performance and DLo’s fate won’t be sealed by the same. There are way more factors to these decisions that occur between Sunday and Friday than people realize. Like I said, if the money has been secured, that tells you all you need to know the mood on Jack Branch.

[311neers]

Too early for a hot take coaching board for Dec. 2026?

[ASUFan4863]

And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

It is my understanding that the money to payout the contract has been secured if needed. And if that isn’t a telling sign about the program under DLo then I don’t know what to tell them.

I would normally agree but that is no guarantee. The same thing happened with Clark a year before we let him go and many others, you included, were still defending that you did not think we would let him go. Even when I told you the day before it was official that I was hearing he was gone you still did not think it would happen. Not trashing on you but you never know. Loggains obviously knows this and these are the moves he is making. We just have to wait and see. I have never fully said my opinion on him other than I am being open minded and giving him a chance. I feel like those who were against or for him right off the bat without letting things play out usually just want to be able to say "I told you so". I gave Clark 4 years before I said for certain we need to move on and I feel like I would be unfair to not give Loggains at least 2 years, preferably 3 years, before making that determination. This is definitely a "prove it" year for Loggains after the failure to improve the record though.

I’m not interested in being right nor am I interested in saying I told you so if I’m right. I’ve provided my rationale for my opinion. I’ve been around long enough and interviewed enough people to identify character. His body language and sound bites were concerning from the get go. I’ve talked to enough people with different insights to the program that it’s pretty evident that he is not fostering a culture for success. As much as folks want to believe, these decisions aren’t made solely on records. Clark wasn’t fired for his on field performance and DLo’s fate won’t be sealed by the same. There are way more factors to these decisions that occur between Sunday and Friday than people realize. Like I said, if the money has been secured, that tells you all you need to know the mood on Jack Branch.

Clark was fired for his on field performance and the lack of discipline off the field. Clark thought he was safe by beating JMU and firing both coordinators and then told people he was blindsided. This is likely the version you were told given your allegiance and connections.

In reality, the decision was made after the Coastal Carolina debacle. This has been well documented. His emotions got the best of him and the firing got extremely nasty between him and the BOT. That is the version you likely weren’t told.

Now the same people who spread the lies of Clark being blindsided are spreading information that DLo is a bad fit, toxic coach and doesn’t want to be here. Be careful what you believe.

[BambooRdApp]

I guess we will find out in December 26 which scenario is more reasonable.
App. St. goes 8-4 or 9-3 and DLo is not with program in mid-December. The off-field issues will be the deciding factor.
If retained, apparently not.

We go 6-6/7-5, DLo retains most of this recruiting class and has another great recruiting class...if retained, off field issues are not great than performance or apparent direction of performance.

We will all know in December 26.

[311neers]

I guess we will find out in December 26 which scenario is more reasonable.
App. St. goes 8-4 or 9-3 and DLo is not with program in mid-December. The off-field issues will be the deciding factor.
If retained, apparently not.

We go 6-6/7-5, DLo retains most of this recruiting class and has another great recruiting class...if retained, off field issues are not great than performance or apparent direction of performance.

We will all know in December 26.

Do you think DLo knows the buyout money has been raised?
If I’m staring at $1.4M, I don’t think I care how this season goes, just get me to Dec 2026 and don’t do anything stupid.

[BambooRdApp]

I guess we will find out in December 26 which scenario is more reasonable.
App. St. goes 8-4 or 9-3 and DLo is not with program in mid-December. The off-field issues will be the deciding factor.
If retained, apparently not.

We go 6-6/7-5, DLo retains most of this recruiting class and has another great recruiting class...if retained, off field issues are not great than performance or apparent direction of performance.

We will all know in December 26.

Do you think DLo knows the buyout money has been raised?
If I’m staring at $1.4M, I don’t think I care how this season goes, just get me to Dec 2026 and don’t do anything stupid.

I have zero clue.
I am a simple guy when it comes to these situations. If a majority of people "inside the building" believe he is "rat poison/culture killer/insert whatever descriptive term", then stand by your convictions inside the building. We seem it have a world where convictions seem to migrate based upon wins/losses...

On a side note, my estimate is that we are 7-5 or 8-4, at best...as freshmen or not many freshmen are dominant. They need at least a year. If you look at pre-covid, some of our players that are in the pros were not great players on the field until junior or senior year. Will we have exceptions, sure. In an NIL world, maybe that changes with our good players leaving early so freshmen get more playing time.
If we are 9-3, that is an outstanding year with all the roster turnover. That is why I put first scenario as a 9-3 scenario above

[Saint3333]

DL's buyout is about as fully funded today as the East Tower has been for the last three years.

This is dudes shooting their mouths off around a tailgate or hotel bar.

Pulling for him and the staff this year, just like every other coach before him.

[fjblair]

DL's buyout is about as fully funded today as the East Tower has been for the last three years.

This is dudes shooting their mouths off around a tailgate or hotel bar.

Pulling for him and the staff this year, just like every other coach before him.

I agree with all of the above.

[ASU07]

If DL’s buyout money has already been raised then no coach in their right mind should want to come here.