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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:49 pm

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Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:28 pm
I threw this together, as I think this sort of revamp of Miller Hill would be great.

Instead of one big slope, I'd suggest terracing it out to be four or five larger steps, maybe 3 or 4 feet wide a piece. That way we can limit the amount of sliding on the hill itself, while still maximizing the amount of people we can fit there. Then, leave the middle of the hill and portions of the curved sides free for people to use as aisles, or still stand on, should they so choose. This would leave us the actual hill while allowing us to keep people much safer without ruining their line of sight.

Also, this would allow us to either lay turf down on the hill or keep it grassed.

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And this is still not official seating so we can brag about 115% attendance.
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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by NewApp » Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:57 pm

Pikapp79 wrote:
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The first lawsuit will force a change.
If there hasn't been a law suit in the past 54 years, there's not going to be one that sticks . Surely Gonzo could help us find the right attorneys or law firm. He's an attorney,
Leave the d##n hill alone. It seats far more with just grass than we could put students on concrete.
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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:55 pm

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I would like to figure a way to get the fans a little closer to the end zone. Enough room for pass plays to not be an issue...but closer so crowd noise is even louder for visitors if trying to score on that end of the stadium..
When ready, blow both concrete concourses up and move them 10-15 yards closer to the field. We’ve got plenty of room on the sidelines. This would also create more concourse room and alleviate food and bev traffic, ingress and egress and other safety concerns. Would help trap in noise as well and get fans closer to the action and scoreboard/speaker system.
Can do 1 side at a time to help save on cost.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:23 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:38 pm
I would terrace it….no seating
Hot dang, me you and Mcclainsville actually like the same idea. I suggested this to Doug a couple of years ago. I added in a special recent grads section in the lower middle of the hill.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:25 pm

If nothing else we should look at a more durable grass. I think there would be enough sun in the spring and summer months to sod it with Bermuda or something similar. It would brown out at the first frost but would be much more durable.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:30 pm

Some of y'all are proof insurance mindsets have ruined the world.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by AppDub » Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:22 pm

Leave a little bit of grass and bowl the stadium in. Goodbye Miller Hill, hello Miller Patch.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by Bootsy » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:01 am

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:25 pm
If nothing else we should look at a more durable grass. I think there would be enough sun in the spring and summer months to sod it with Bermuda or something similar. It would brown out at the first frost but would be much more durable.
I like the way you're thinking, but Bermuda doesn't do well in the cold. So, it's likely they could end up having to re-sod each spring/summer. That would be an expensive proposition.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by AppWyo » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:13 am

311neers wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:55 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:34 pm
I would like to figure a way to get the fans a little closer to the end zone. Enough room for pass plays to not be an issue...but closer so crowd noise is even louder for visitors if trying to score on that end of the stadium..
When ready, blow both concrete concourses up and move them 10-15 yards closer to the field. We’ve got plenty of room on the sidelines. This would also create more concourse room and alleviate food and bev traffic, ingress and egress and other safety concerns. Would help trap in noise as well and get fans closer to the action and scoreboard/speaker system.
Can do 1 side at a time to help save on cost.
Moving the fans closer would make it easier to throw snowballs as well. Having the stands where they are gives the teams and the band more room to get off the field. It also helps protect them from the fans.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:17 am

AppWyo wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:13 am
311neers wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:55 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:34 pm
I would like to figure a way to get the fans a little closer to the end zone. Enough room for pass plays to not be an issue...but closer so crowd noise is even louder for visitors if trying to score on that end of the stadium..
When ready, blow both concrete concourses up and move them 10-15 yards closer to the field. We’ve got plenty of room on the sidelines. This would also create more concourse room and alleviate food and bev traffic, ingress and egress and other safety concerns. Would help trap in noise as well and get fans closer to the action and scoreboard/speaker system.
Can do 1 side at a time to help save on cost.
Moving the fans closer would make it easier to throw snowballs as well. Having the stands where they are gives the teams and the band more room to get off the field. It also helps protect them from the fans.
There are not many games where snowballs actually come into play. That is a non-issue for this idea. The band is on the field for a very small part of the entire day and not when action is in play. Other schools deal with the band and fans that are much closer to the field as well as in the sidelines with somewhat larger bands.
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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by NewApp » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:53 am

The band should be on the field more of the time instead of the electronic DJ stuff. They practice hard to do formations and play like the old Band of Distinction to have just the opening formations and Nat Anthem then on the field at half time while the announcements and DJ music is sometimes blaring over them.
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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:55 am

So, you want 50 to 75 band members to run out onto the field and play during the 3 minute timeouts?😂😂😂
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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:56 am

Does anyone have a photo of the aftermath from Saturday of the hill? I need to see what that thing looks like today.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:02 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:17 am
AppWyo wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:13 am
311neers wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:55 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:34 pm
I would like to figure a way to get the fans a little closer to the end zone. Enough room for pass plays to not be an issue...but closer so crowd noise is even louder for visitors if trying to score on that end of the stadium..
When ready, blow both concrete concourses up and move them 10-15 yards closer to the field. We’ve got plenty of room on the sidelines. This would also create more concourse room and alleviate food and bev traffic, ingress and egress and other safety concerns. Would help trap in noise as well and get fans closer to the action and scoreboard/speaker system.
Can do 1 side at a time to help save on cost.
Moving the fans closer would make it easier to throw snowballs as well. Having the stands where they are gives the teams and the band more room to get off the field. It also helps protect them from the fans.
There are not many games where snowballs actually come into play. That is a non-issue for this idea. The band is on the field for a very small part of the entire day and not when action is in play. Other schools deal with the band and fans that are much closer to the field as well as in the sidelines with somewhat larger bands.
And you could add a few more seats by doing this. Don't see any reason why this shouldn't be the long term plan for KBS. We got rid of the track, now lets use the space for highest and best use. We're getting an indoor, so we don't need the extra 10 yards of sideline/black track thing anymore for practice space.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:33 pm

311neers wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:02 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:17 am
AppWyo wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:13 am
311neers wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:55 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:34 pm
I would like to figure a way to get the fans a little closer to the end zone. Enough room for pass plays to not be an issue...but closer so crowd noise is even louder for visitors if trying to score on that end of the stadium..
When ready, blow both concrete concourses up and move them 10-15 yards closer to the field. We’ve got plenty of room on the sidelines. This would also create more concourse room and alleviate food and bev traffic, ingress and egress and other safety concerns. Would help trap in noise as well and get fans closer to the action and scoreboard/speaker system.
Can do 1 side at a time to help save on cost.
Moving the fans closer would make it easier to throw snowballs as well. Having the stands where they are gives the teams and the band more room to get off the field. It also helps protect them from the fans.
There are not many games where snowballs actually come into play. That is a non-issue for this idea. The band is on the field for a very small part of the entire day and not when action is in play. Other schools deal with the band and fans that are much closer to the field as well as in the sidelines with somewhat larger bands.
And you could add a few more seats by doing this. Don't see any reason why this shouldn't be the long term plan for KBS. We got rid of the track, now lets use the space for highest and best use. We're getting an indoor, so we don't need the extra 10 yards of sideline/black track thing anymore for practice space.
I think it could be done fairly easily on the east side with the height difference between the top of the lower section and the bottom of the upper section...just build on top of the lower and extend it out. Not sure it would work very well with the west side. But it would also require a lot of earth and equipment moving to relocate the concourse, hill, and scoreboard. Not to mention it'd leave that shiny new NEZ facility badly off-center.
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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by MrCraig » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:31 pm

Possibly unpopular opinion, but I’m not a fan of the students sliding down the hill in the mud. Kinda feeds into the hillbilly stereotype.

I think it would be cool to replace the hill with general admission grandstands. Kind of a miniature “Yellow Wall” like at Borussia Dortmund.

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:42 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:31 pm
Possibly unpopular opinion, but I’m not a fan of the students sliding down the hill in the mud. Kinda feeds into the hillbilly stereotype.

I think it would be cool to replace the hill with general admission grandstands. Kind of a miniature “Yellow Wall” like at Borussia Dortmund.
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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:59 pm

NEVER concrete Miller!!!! Terracing with REAL Grass is cheap and provides a better student platform. Snowballs be damned….if we want to stop it put all those police cadets there with cameras, otherwise I’m not worried about the 50 that get thrown every 5 years….

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by teller » Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:43 am

appfanjj wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:56 pm
This has surely been discussed here before but why not put permanent seating on Miller Hill and make it a student only section? It basically is one now. Or at least cover it with artificial turf with App State on it.
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Nope, never discussed, never ever.

Hahaha, just kidding. You’re the lucky number 777th person to start a thread on it. 😄

Jokes aside, was it that muddy before the snow? Never seen it look that bad before

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Re: Miller Hill

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:36 am

That tiered seating with turf looks pretty good. My son typically ends up there for games and says it’s terrible. It might be time to move on from the mudslide.

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