So Much For That Excuse

[AppStFan1]

Ok guys you just need to understand something. Since 2020 we have become the only FBS football program that has had to or is currently dealing with the following issues, pre Covid, Covid, post Covid, NIL, the transfer portal, coaching changes, money issues, injured players, players quitting, climate change, inflation, stupid fans, crowded bathrooms, no cups and no ice and pretty much any other impediments to success you can think of. So keeping that in mind, sit down, shut up and be happy that we haven’t lost every game in the same fashion we lost to South Bama. When you look at all the things we have dealt with than none of our opponents have dealt with, this year have been a stunning success.

No one is happy with what has transpired on the field. Some of us just don’t feel that a change is needed.

So we don’t need to change anything?

Should have completed my sentence with at the HC position. I’m sure that adjustments are necessary and difficult decisions will be made. The question becomes is it enough for folks like yourself that want heads to roll.

We have been told before that a big problem for us has been lack of coaching continuity and shown the example of Satterfield how he kept his staff together. If Shawn stays, should we not keep the entire coaching staff to maintain continuity? Otherwise I feel like next year if we are 5-7 or 3-9 that we will hear that coaching continuity is a big part of it. I don't see how we can argue to keep Shawn and make major changes on the staff because of this.

I think Shawn will have a very hard time getting top level assistants who will want to take a job knowing there is a good chance they will be looking for a job in 11 months.

[Bootsy]

If App has a rocky start in 2025 like those in 2023-24, Clark won't last the entire season. Let's hope he gets some new blood on the staff, recruiting is strong and App gets back to its winning ways.

[311neers]

If App has a rocky start in 2025 like those in 2023-24, Clark won't last the entire season. Let's hope he gets some new blood on the staff, recruiting is strong and App gets back to its winning ways.

Shouldn’t even get the chance. 2022 we went 4-6 vs FBS. 3-5 vs FBS this year.

[NewApp]

Some of you are so adept at how to recruit….. why have you not gone into coaching? I mean, you have all the answers!

Translation: I can’t refute what you are saying with evidence from results so I will attack your credibility to have an opinion.

I recruit and development various teams at my place of employment. I am measured in part by their success.

Coaching is that on steroids with a KPI that everyone can see.

Saint, what does KPI mean?

[spacemonkey]

Ok guys you just need to understand something. Since 2020 we have become the only FBS football program that has had to or is currently dealing with the following issues, pre Covid, Covid, post Covid, NIL, the transfer portal, coaching changes, money issues, injured players, players quitting, climate change, inflation, stupid fans, crowded bathrooms, no cups and no ice and pretty much any other impediments to success you can think of. So keeping that in mind, sit down, shut up and be happy that we haven’t lost every game in the same fashion we lost to South Bama. When you look at all the things we have dealt with than none of our opponents have dealt with, this year have been a stunning success.

No one is happy with what has transpired on the field. Some of us just don’t feel that a change is needed.

I just can't see it. The play and coaching is so disappointing. I see nothing....and I truly mean nothing that excites me about next year.

[Stonewall]

Key performance indicators.

[Bootsy]

It will be interesting to see what the vibe is this weekend at KBS. If the team starts slow or (heaven forbid) doesn't play well, it could be a very long day.

[BurkeGrad]

At the end of the day, I really feel bad for Shawn. The amount of stress he's feeling must be off the charts. I hope the team makes a turn around, wins 3 more games to include a bowl. If he returns next season, I truly hope that it is "the season" and he succeeds. At the end of the day, what's going to happen will happen. I just want to be positive and hope for the best, as I feel most of us do. Yes, Shawn has made a lot of mistakes. But, to be honest, so have I. I think I've said a lot, and for me at this point, I believe I'll stay silent and fly under the radar for awhile.

Coaching dismissals are life changing for players, coaches, their families and also the football office/program staff that remain. All must be feeling stress along with facing the next challenges.
Coach Moore told his staff after the 6-5 2004 season ended with a loss to Western they had to turn the program around or they all would be looking for another job after next season. We know what happened then. Clark and staff are facing the same situation IF they get another season. Hopefully they can finish strong and bring about enough changes to be competitive in the SBC East in 2025. See Marshall and GSU.

[Kafarmer]

Some of you are so adept at how to recruit….. why have you not gone into coaching? I mean, you have all the answers!

Translation: I can’t refute what you are saying with evidence from results so I will attack your credibility to have an opinion.

I recruit and development various teams at my place of employment. I am measured in part by their success.

Coaching is that on steroids with a KPI that everyone can see.

I didn’t attack any one persons credibility to have an opinion. Seems, maybe, you did.

I appreciate and congratulate you on being good at your job. As a quality manager for a small textile company serving multiple industries including medical, automotive and aerospace, I fully understand the significance of six sigma and kpi. I also understand that in very few instances is it black or white. There’s a lot of gray area.if you try to live in black and white, it’s not a pleasant environment.

If our coaches base their recruiting on that black and white kpi basis, we’re in trouble. Most of the recruits, high school and portal that check all those statistics are hard catches for us. The bigger fish are after them and have more resources to attract them. We have to recruit as we always have, with that gut feeling that there is something of value in that player we may be able to develop. Much harder in the world of portal than it was for Moore or even Satterfield. Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m not defending our current coaches as doing a good job, only saying it’s a tough deal. Yes, I want them to do well and get frustrated when it seems we fail in that area.

My original post was aimed at the people who think they know who, what and how we should recruit….. and call plays, and practice, and build character. If you’re not doing it day in, day out, then no idea. I’m sure in your successful recruiting and hiring for your company, you have a benefits package from your company including good pay, 401K, insurance, vacation, etc. in addition to your skills as a recruiter, you can offer those for your candidates to consider. Just like our athletes consider our offerings. So, while what you do does translate somewhat, it’s not the same. If wins and losses are the ultimate kpi, then that’s fine.

[Saint3333]

Glad we agree they haven’t done well.

[Stonewall]

Just win Baby ! No excuses.