Ifs and Buts

[asu7]

So this is an IF but I would like to know what ya'll think ...

IF Clark wins out ... does he keep his job? Do we say okay it's okay for us to just coast the first of the year then when the seats get hot and we win?

Do we think Clark does not get renewed from here? Maybe he finishes one more year after this and we just do not renew his contract.

I hate to see us so bad at the beginning of the year. This can't become our tradition.

[CharlotteApp05]

I’ll play.

Yes.

Winning record 7-4, bowl game.

But has to have a concrete plan to have a better start next year. And positional coaches or coordinators will be impacted.

[kornegaylw]

Hot take

Clark is retained unless ALL 3 of the remaining games look like the SBAMA game...

[BTK2000]

You can’t have a lame duck coach on the last year of their contract. They can’t recruit or hire staff effectively. It’s either extend this year to buy out the last year. There is no In between

[Saint3333]

We appear to have a chance to salvage an average season and have a team that is watchable the last two games.

However I’ve gone from being concerned about the results to process that has led to those results. I question if this staff can assess and develop talent. Making a bowl game isn’t going to change that ability.

That said making a bowl game makes it difficult to move on.

We should beat CCU that team is struggling lately, then it comes down to upsetting JMU or GS. Lose both of those and that will be the end of this era.

Tough to extend given this year and as noted quite the conundrum.

[falcoapp]

We appear to have a chance to salvage an average season and have a team that is watchable the last two games.

However I’ve gone from being concerned about the results to process that has led to those results. I question if this staff can assess and develop talent. Making a bowl game isn’t going to change that ability.

That said making a bowl game makes it difficult to move on.

We should beat CCU that team is struggling lately, then it comes down to upsetting JMU or GS. Lose both of those and that will be the end of this era.

Tough to extend given this year and as noted quite the conundrum.

This is exactly where I'm at.

I felt confident we'd win yesterday.

Am also feeling confident we can go best Coastal as both these teams seem like they are going opposite directions.

JMU will be the winnable game to get us into a bowl. At home, and if we beat Coastal we are going to have extra long week of rest and a full head of momentum.

[BeauFoster]

I’m still on the OUT train. The fact that we’ve had this convo several seasons in a row is the reason. I don’t accept mediocrity, and that’s exactly what we’ve become. At best, average.

Average is for losers and anyone who accepts it, especially after where we've been for so many years is…well…fill in the blank.

[ncman071]

I really like Clark...great man..loves App...but..even if we win our and win our bowl...at best we are 8-4...with a team expected to compete for a Sunbelt title and possible playoff...I fear if we continue with him we will seep into mediocrity ..not a bad team...but we will be like an NC state and that's just not the standard here at App. I think he gets one more year and regardless is on the hot seat

[Stonewall]

Yes. No. No.

[Saint3333]

Another year feels like delaying the inevitable. I’ve been wrong many times, but the sample size seems large enough at this stage.

[WASU 93]

I think Sloan has to go regardless. There are no line shifts, no stunts, etc in the first half. The offense basically stares us down for 25 seconds, we sit there motionless and they know where to block, run, throw. The goal of defense in today’s game is to take away the first option and to force mistakes. We don’t scheme for that to happen.

Clark was solid in game yesterday with clock management, knowing when to challenge, etc and the players are giving effort. Not defending, just putting it out there.

I agree with the lame duck comment in traditional times. But, that horse has left the barn. Recruiting/player management/transfers/NIL is a current time situation. There is no building for the future. That’s why there’s zero talk on The Cabin about redshirts. Even two years ago, that would have been a hot topic this time of year.

[appdaze]

Win out gets a 2 year extension with lots of contractual boxes to check for future success and a school friendly buyout.

[hapapp]

If we finish 7-4, no way he is let go but I think it reasonable to require personnel changes.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I’m still on the OUT train. The fact that we’ve had this convo several seasons in a row is the reason. I don’t accept mediocrity, and that’s exactly what we’ve become. At best, average.

Average is for losers and anyone who accepts it, especially after where we've been for so many years is…well…fill in the blank.

Best predictor of the future is history. What happened last season and what is happening this season? Why will next season be different?

[APP93]

SC should remain HC next year because he has earned it, no matter the outcome of final 3 games and potential bowl game.

If team wins out and ends up 8-4 with a win at GS and a bowl win people on this board still think he should be fired??? That is kind of nuts.

[Saint3333]

Stating he should be retained if he loses the last three and goes 4-7 is more “nuts”.

Would love to hear how he’s earned a 6th year if he goes 4-7.

[spacemonkey]

I think Sloan has to go regardless. There are no line shifts, no stunts, etc in the first half. The offense basically stares us down for 25 seconds, we sit there motionless and they know where to block, run, throw. The goal of defense in today’s game is to take away the first option and to force mistakes. We don’t scheme for that to happen.

Clark was solid in game yesterday with clock management, knowing when to challenge, etc and the players are giving effort. Not defending, just putting it out there.

I agree with the lame duck comment in traditional times. But, that horse has left the barn. Recruiting/player management/transfers/NIL is a current time situation. There is no building for the future. That’s why there’s zero talk on The Cabin about redshirts. Even two years ago, that would have been a hot topic this time of year.

This is a good take above. The redshirt has me both ways. In todays world with transfer portal, redshirt doesn't mean much to the team. The other side if you are doing what is right for the young man, an extra year of strength training is crucial in college football at the level we hope to play. It almost comes down to do we do the right thing for the school no matter what or do the right thing for our student. Are they students or are they paid athletes??

[AppWyo]

I think Sloan has to go regardless. There are no line shifts, no stunts, etc in the first half. The offense basically stares us down for 25 seconds, we sit there motionless and they know where to block, run, throw. The goal of defense in today’s game is to take away the first option and to force mistakes. We don’t scheme for that to happen.

Clark was solid in game yesterday with clock management, knowing when to challenge, etc and the players are giving effort. Not defending, just putting it out there.

I agree with the lame duck comment in traditional times. But, that horse has left the barn. Recruiting/player management/transfers/NIL is a current time situation. There is no building for the future. That’s why there’s zero talk on The Cabin about redshirts. Even two years ago, that would have been a hot topic this time of year.

This is a good take above. The redshirt has me both ways. In todays world with transfer portal, redshirt doesn't mean much to the team. The other side if you are doing what is right for the young man, an extra year of strength training is crucial in college football at the level we hope to play. It almost comes down to do we do the right thing for the school no matter what or do the right thing for our student. Are they students or are they paid athletes??

When do colleges start trading players like professional teams do?

[WataugaMan]

In a nutshell, regardless of how the rest of the season plays out, no extension. But, win a bowl game he'll be back for another season. No bowl or bowl loss and the fat lady signs.

[huskie3]

Strength and conditioning should be on the athlete! Do colleges no longer send workout schedules to the high school once they commit? I remember having to send in weights and time weekly and then having to meet them first day of summer camp.
Yes Clark should receive another year - defensive coaches No.