I am with you Coach Clark

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:49 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:32 pm
You cannot teach speed. Either you’re born with it or not.
Coaching on angles can happen to a certain degree, but it is largely intuitive.

If App has players who lack speed or can’t grasp angles, how can Greenhalgh be blamed?
But you can improve speed and angles.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Stonewall » Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:04 pm

And you can recruit….or not.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppDawg » Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:39 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:22 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:49 am
also I hope we make a change at S&C. I think everyone has noticed all year our guys look slow and unable to match the physicality of our opponents.

Not to mention our numerous season ending injuries.
I don't know the answer to this but, How many of our players have been with this S&C coach more than 1 year. I would think it would take 2 and maybe 3 years for the S&C coach to really show up on some of these guys. I don't know anything about this subject, so I am genuinely curious what others think. It seems it would take at least 2 years to turn a high school kid or transfer kid into an SBC offensive linemen or Defensive Linemen with enough strength to matter in the game.
If I recall my count earlier this season, 60% of our upper classmen… True Juniors through super-seniors… are Transfers in.

Very hard to have a “player-led” / “chip on your shoulder” program with numbers like that. I think this is similar to your point, how long does a S&C coach need to work with someone to get the most out of them?
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Bootsy » Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:40 pm

bcoach wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:49 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:32 pm
You cannot teach speed. Either you’re born with it or not.
Coaching on angles can happen to a certain degree, but it is largely intuitive.

If App has players who lack speed or can’t grasp angles, how can Greenhalgh be blamed?
But you can improve speed and angles.
You may be able to improve it; track & field athletes frequently do. But you cannot take someone who doesn’t have the innate ability to run fast and make them a high-level sprinter.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:54 pm

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Pikapp79 wrote:
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If he stays a lot fans will depart.
Only if we lose. If a game day experience like yesterday is delivered consistently, fans aren’t going anywhere.

And the students will still be there having a blast, as they always do
Of course a good bit of the game day experience was the WINNING over JMU.
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by JTApps1 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:33 am

AppDawg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:39 pm
spacemonkey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:22 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:49 am
also I hope we make a change at S&C. I think everyone has noticed all year our guys look slow and unable to match the physicality of our opponents.

Not to mention our numerous season ending injuries.
I don't know the answer to this but, How many of our players have been with this S&C coach more than 1 year. I would think it would take 2 and maybe 3 years for the S&C coach to really show up on some of these guys. I don't know anything about this subject, so I am genuinely curious what others think. It seems it would take at least 2 years to turn a high school kid or transfer kid into an SBC offensive linemen or Defensive Linemen with enough strength to matter in the game.
If I recall my count earlier this season, 60% of our upper classmen… True Juniors through super-seniors… are Transfers in.

Very hard to have a “player-led” / “chip on your shoulder” program with numbers like that. I think this is similar to your point, how long does a S&C coach need to work with someone to get the most out of them?
Those upper classmen are all from the 2019 -2021 classes which took place during coaching changes and Covid. I hope we'll see more stability going forward, or at least as much as can be expected in the portal and unlimited transfer era.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by bcoach » Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:58 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:40 pm
bcoach wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:49 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:32 pm
You cannot teach speed. Either you’re born with it or not.
Coaching on angles can happen to a certain degree, but it is largely intuitive.

If App has players who lack speed or can’t grasp angles, how can Greenhalgh be blamed?
But you can improve speed and angles.
You may be able to improve it; track & field athletes frequently do. But you cannot take someone who doesn’t have the innate ability to run fast and make them a high-level sprinter.
Well of course not but you can get better. If you can't grasp angles I have no idea on earth how you got here. It is not rocket science. Maybe the position coach just does not know how to help.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Rekdiver » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:10 pm

I been around long enough to here these same comments for 50 years…..

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by spacemonkey » Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:11 pm

Georgia Tech....running quarterback. This is the college offense we should be running. It is tough to stop. Too many options with easy passes that a 2nd or 3rd string quarterback should be able to complete. Athletes running all over.the place

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:27 pm

Well, it is decent..but they have only scored 20 points..

With that said. Ga. Tech version of H. King is better than Texas A&M version of H. King ...or it was the App. St. D
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:41 pm

Should Georgia lose tonight which it looks like they will, and A&M beats Texas; the winner of the SEC may not be ranked high enough to get a first round bye.

Edit: WOW!
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:00 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:27 pm
Well, it is decent..but they have only scored 20 points..

With that said. Ga. Tech version of H. King is better than Texas A&M version of H. King ...or it was the App. St. D
Prime example of what good coaching will get you. He is running a system meant for him and they are getting the most out of him.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by BTK2000 » Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:22 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:10 pm
I been around long enough to here these same comments for 50 years…..
Proud of you

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:35 am

What a great game. I really wanted another SEC team to have three losses.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:30 am

Hopefully all the Georgia Stink fans went to the Georgia game and are hungover and won’t show up in Statesboro. That was an epic 8 OT game last night. I have no clue how Tech blew that one.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:05 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:41 pm
Should Georgia lose tonight which it looks like they will, and A&M beats Texas; the winner of the SEC may not be ranked high enough to get a first round bye.

Edit: WOW!
Hope you didn't have any money on it.
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:24 am

NewApp wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:41 pm
Should Georgia lose tonight which it looks like they will, and A&M beats Texas; the winner of the SEC may not be ranked high enough to get a first round bye.

Edit: WOW!
Hope you didn't have any money on it.
I don’t typically bet on rivalry games.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppinVA » Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:09 pm

I’m glad to see that Texas A&M got their Gameday visit. :twisted:
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppSt12 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:16 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:10 pm
I been around long enough to here these same comments for 50 years…..
1. Hear*

2. Yeas we are trying to prevent going back to 50 years ago. So many of us have put so much time and money into supporting this club. We do not want Shawn Clark to continue to tear down the amazing program we had.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:40 pm

Stonewall wrote:
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Win or tie.
Gone or should be.

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