Offense Preseason Awards
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Offense Preseason Awards
So many weapons on this offense, four deep at RB, 6 deep at WR with a known at QB.
Who is your offensive MVP (first and second as Joey will be a common answer)?
Who is your breakout player?
Who is a contributor under the radar?
Who is your offensive MVP (first and second as Joey will be a common answer)?
Who is your breakout player?
Who is a contributor under the radar?
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
I have feeling about new WR William Fowles. Hoping our entire Oline breaks out.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
MVP - Nate Johnson
Breakout - Fletcher
Under the radar - Yowe
Edited to add my offensive predictions:
MVP - Joey/KRob. Take your pick.
Breakout - Fowles
Under the radar - Shrader - I almost considered him for MVP. I think he’ll be a great player for us.
Breakout - Fletcher
Under the radar - Yowe
Edited to add my offensive predictions:
MVP - Joey/KRob. Take your pick.
Breakout - Fowles
Under the radar - Shrader - I almost considered him for MVP. I think he’ll be a great player for us.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
I had Nate too but then realized this was offense onlyASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:51 amMVP - Nate Johnson
Breakout - Fletcher
Under the radar - Yowe
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
Well I completely missed the boat then by going all defense. I’ve always been bad at following directions.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:57 amI had Nate too but then realized this was offense onlyASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:51 amMVP - Nate Johnson
Breakout - Fletcher
Under the radar - Yowe
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
MVP- Joey - logical and easy choice
Breakout- entire OL unit - I see it as the only real question coming into the season on offense
Under the radar- Max Drag - all starters and many backups are already known commodities
Breakout- entire OL unit - I see it as the only real question coming into the season on offense
Under the radar- Max Drag - all starters and many backups are already known commodities
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
Curious question for those picking the OL or members of the OL. How will you measure success?
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
Time QB has to throw, sacks allowed and holes my old azz could run through (or our rushing stats - top 2 in conference - top 30 nationally)
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
Eye test, running stats, sacks allowed, conference awards.
If we don’t have at least 2 all-conference (regardless of team) OL, then it would be a disappointment.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
MVP - going in different direction as I hope for 1000 yard rusher- Kanye
Breakout - Jackson
Under radar - OL.. cautiously optimistic. I look at OL as one as they have to work in concert with each other.
Breakout - Jackson
Under radar - OL.. cautiously optimistic. I look at OL as one as they have to work in concert with each other.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
I think likely MVP is Kanye Roberts which means the OL shares the glory.
If we have to rely on Joey and Kaedin then the OL underperformed.
That said, Kaedin will have a year, and then I think we'll see him on Sundays.
If we have to rely on Joey and Kaedin then the OL underperformed.
That said, Kaedin will have a year, and then I think we'll see him on Sundays.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
Interesting criteria. I’ll be curious to see your assessment at the end of the season.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:08 pmEye test, running stats, sacks allowed, conference awards.
If we don’t have at least 2 all-conference (regardless of team) OL, then it would be a disappointment.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
I’ll be curious to see your assessment at the end of the season.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
I wouldn’t count on much from him. He’s still learning and he has a lot of traffic in front of him. He could be a 2025 breakout candidate.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
Good sign a 4 star WR can't crack the two deep. He's a stud, watching him in HS, he'll get an opportunity.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
How would you measure OL success?AppSt94 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:25 pmInteresting criteria. I’ll be curious to see your assessment at the end of the season.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:08 pmEye test, running stats, sacks allowed, conference awards.
If we don’t have at least 2 all-conference (regardless of team) OL, then it would be a disappointment.
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Re: Offense Preseason Awards
I can’t really say that there is a better way than what was described. However, if I’m being completely honest I don’t know that there is a correct way to judge it. The eye test is fair but very subjective toward recency bias; meaning a negative play can have a greater effect on one’s overall assessment than 10 good ones. Using statistical data is misleading as well because often times, a sack can be attributed to secondary coverage. The OL can’t be expected to hold a block forever. Last year the OL gave up a sack (21) on 4.4% of all pass attempts. In 2022, the OL gave up fewer sacks to a less mobile QB (18) but still gave up a sack on 5% of pass attempts. That number was 4.1% in 2021 and 7% in 2020. My point being is that the # of sacks allowed requires context. There is also the rotation factor in that are we judging guard play or each individual.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:01 pmHow would you measure OL success?AppSt94 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:25 pmInteresting criteria. I’ll be curious to see your assessment at the end of the season.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:08 pmEye test, running stats, sacks allowed, conference awards.
If we don’t have at least 2 all-conference (regardless of team) OL, then it would be a disappointment.
I’d be interested to see how folks on here would grade a performance each game versus what a service like PFF would. Like I said, I’m curious as to how it would be judged because I am curious.