I do not want App to be in an ACC that does not include the Big Four...Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:14 pmThat last group will also have a few members of the G5 which will lead to epic threads on message boards like this one. South Florida, SDSU, etc. will not go quietly. Do not underestimate the pride of "wealthy" individuals, "we can believe almost anything if necessary to protect our pride".AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:04 pmWhen it’s discussed and announced that there will be a breakaway, there will be three tiers of candidates. Those that will spearhead the club. Texas, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio St and the like that want to be grouped together. Then you have the ones that want to sit at the “cool kids” table to belong but are really there for the others to make fun of. I’m talking about schools like Michigan St, Wisconsin, and South Carolina. Then you will have the ones that the kids at the cool kids table don’t find to be worth sharing the table with. The Maryland’s, Pretty much the northern teams of the ACC, Rutgers and the Big IX.AppWyo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:38 amBasically, most of the haves wish they had what Notre Dame has.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:41 amIt will be closer to 90 than 40 that break away. There will be programs that will sacrifice everything to keep up with the jones, no difference than society at large.
And some of those are going to really make our fanbase jealous. Might want to mark this post for future reference.
Several schools have tried to be independents like South Carolina, ECU, FAMU, UMASS, etc. and it has not worked out in their favor.
Even Notre Dame saw that it was advantageous to join a conference in their other sports.
I am sure there were people that thought integration, Title XI, and Televised games would be the end of college sports too, this is just the current phase of the evolution of college sports.
Many people stopped watching NASCAR when Dale Earnhardt died, but the fact is, if he were still alive today, he would not be racing.
I remember during the FBS feasibility study sitting in meetings where alums/fans asked why settle for CUSA we should be calling the ACC!
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Egos will certainly be willing to stroke some checks, but this new “Premier League” is going to be by invitation only and the invites are going to be those that can carry their weight in a television contract. I hate to point to one school, or entity as the thorn in the paw, but Texas is a school that doesn’t like anyone in their sandbox. In my opinion, it won’t matter if a school like Oklahoma State or a South Carolina want in, an OSU doesn’t add value to the television contract and Clemson is a better product than SC. There will be some current P5s on the outside looking in and I don’t see any current G5s moving any needles that they aren’t moving now.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:14 pmThat last group will also have a few members of the G5 which will lead to epic threads on message boards like this one. South Florida, SDSU, etc. will not go quietly. Do not underestimate the pride of "wealthy" individuals, "we can believe almost anything if necessary to protect our pride".AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:04 pmWhen it’s discussed and announced that there will be a breakaway, there will be three tiers of candidates. Those that will spearhead the club. Texas, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio St and the like that want to be grouped together. Then you have the ones that want to sit at the “cool kids” table to belong but are really there for the others to make fun of. I’m talking about schools like Michigan St, Wisconsin, and South Carolina. Then you will have the ones that the kids at the cool kids table don’t find to be worth sharing the table with. The Maryland’s, Pretty much the northern teams of the ACC, Rutgers and the Big IX.AppWyo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:38 amBasically, most of the haves wish they had what Notre Dame has.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:41 amIt will be closer to 90 than 40 that break away. There will be programs that will sacrifice everything to keep up with the jones, no difference than society at large.
And some of those are going to really make our fanbase jealous. Might want to mark this post for future reference.
Several schools have tried to be independents like South Carolina, ECU, FAMU, UMASS, etc. and it has not worked out in their favor.
Even Notre Dame saw that it was advantageous to join a conference in their other sports.
I am sure there were people that thought integration, Title XI, and Televised games would be the end of college sports too, this is just the current phase of the evolution of college sports.
Many people stopped watching NASCAR when Dale Earnhardt died, but the fact is, if he were still alive today, he would not be racing.
I remember during the FBS feasibility study sitting in meetings where alums/fans asked why settle for CUSA we should be calling the ACC!
Now that doesn’t mean that these schools couldn’t play by the rules of the Premier League, but they aren’t going to be included.
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They'll need someone to beat up on, I view the split at a much lower "level".
Plus you start leaving schools like South Carolina out their donors and government officials will step in. I'd love to see the split you're talking about for the entertainment value though!
Plus you start leaving schools like South Carolina out their donors and government officials will step in. I'd love to see the split you're talking about for the entertainment value though!
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It could certainly lead to some Civil Wars. Here’s the other potential fly in the ointment. If these schools break free from the NCAA, could they be excluded from March Madness? How does affect the decision makers at schools like Carolina, Kentucky, Indiana and Kansas?Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:57 pmThey'll need someone to beat up on, I view the split at a much lower "level".
Plus you start leaving schools like South Carolina out their donors and government officials will step in. I'd love to see the split you're talking about for the entertainment value though!
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UConn and DookAppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:17 pmIt could certainly lead to some Civil Wars. Here’s the other potential fly in the ointment. If these schools break free from the NCAA, could they be excluded from March Madness? How does affect the decision makers at schools like Carolina, Kentucky, Indiana and Kansas?Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:57 pmThey'll need someone to beat up on, I view the split at a much lower "level".
Plus you start leaving schools like South Carolina out their donors and government officials will step in. I'd love to see the split you're talking about for the entertainment value though!
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I don’t see Duke or UConn wanting in, nor would I think they get invited.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:39 pmUConn and DookAppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:17 pmIt could certainly lead to some Civil Wars. Here’s the other potential fly in the ointment. If these schools break free from the NCAA, could they be excluded from March Madness? How does affect the decision makers at schools like Carolina, Kentucky, Indiana and Kansas?Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:57 pmThey'll need someone to beat up on, I view the split at a much lower "level".
Plus you start leaving schools like South Carolina out their donors and government officials will step in. I'd love to see the split you're talking about for the entertainment value though!
I did a look across college football and I found about 26 schools that would likely go. I’m not sure who else goes though.
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If you want to poke a hornets nest tell a bottom third P4 programs they are going to be left out of the party.
Take the bottom third of the ACC/Big12: BC, Pitt, Cuse, Wake, Cincy, Iowa St, Houston, WV.
Again I don't believe in this theory but just imagine the chaos.
Take the bottom third of the ACC/Big12: BC, Pitt, Cuse, Wake, Cincy, Iowa St, Houston, WV.
Again I don't believe in this theory but just imagine the chaos.
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There are a few more that could be added but yes. It could be chaos.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:51 pmIf you want to poke a hornets nest tell a bottom third P4 programs they are going to be left out of the party.
Take the bottom third of the ACC/Big12: BC, Pitt, Cuse, Wake, Cincy, Iowa St, Houston, WV.
Again I don't believe in this theory but just imagine the chaos.
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Can anyone name the team who won the Triple A baseball championship last year? I’d bet almost nobody can. I remember during our run of FCS championships there was almost no stories on the football page of ESPN. We were all so excited that our game was going to be broadcast on ESPN2 or even the main channel. If there is some real split of P’s and G’s it will truly be FCS all over again. The current FCS teams who barely survive will have tough decisions to make.
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No one cares, but a small percentage of us fans anyway. It's been a Back To The Future ride anyway.
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So true. We basically moved up so we would be in tier two when it all shakes out. FCS will be the third level of college football sooner rather than later.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:41 amCan anyone name the team who won the Triple A baseball championship last year? I’d bet almost nobody can. I remember during our run of FCS championships there was almost no stories on the football page of ESPN. We were all so excited that our game was going to be broadcast on ESPN2 or even the main channel. If there is some real split of P’s and G’s it will truly be FCS all over again. The current FCS teams who barely survive will have tough decisions to make.
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Over the next 3/5/10 years, how many schools decide to shutter their football programs because they can’t make the math work…even at the lower divisions?
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I believe so many teams have moved from FCS to FBS of late, because schools like App have made it look easy and the rewards have outweighed the risks. However, the alumni dollars is the money that is driving those moves. Keep your big donors happy and you will be happy.
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Since NIL and players are going to legally be paid, "The Bag Man" has passed away, but "Big Donors" still live.
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You have to wonder what happens when the IRS gets involved with the proper taxation. Not to mention when Treasury starts to look into these transactions.
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