That’s fair and you are correct that you can’t have the CFP without the Championship. Fans can create the CFP as a goal but a coach and team cannot. Goals have to be based on controllable achievements.KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:54 amNot at all, 10-2 with no CFP wouldn’t be a failure.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:33 pmSo if we go 10-2, win the SBC and don’t get into the CFP, you consider the season a failure?KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:51 amI don’t think the playoffs are a pipe dream. Difficult task, yes.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:38 pmThe playoffs are a pipe dream
How did George Carlin put it about the Country Club
For now, one G5 team gets in, so we might as well aim for the stars. I will never just settle for conference championships, but it would be nice to win one again.
I admit having high aspirations leads to disappointment but it’s the only way I know to be a fan.
Go App!
I’m just saying that we should strive for the G5 CFP bid as our highest goal every year and not just be happy with a Sun Belt championship.
Although a Sun Belt title would be nice since we haven’t had one in the past 4 seasons.
Of course, the first goal should be the conference title, without it there can be no CFP bid.
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Shocking Week 1 gametime announcement for UGA Clemson....
12PM NOON. That's a sin.
Not sure how that effects us the following week, but slightly more time to prepare for the Tigers.
12PM NOON. That's a sin.
Not sure how that effects us the following week, but slightly more time to prepare for the Tigers.
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So, App. St. /ETSU is the prime time ABC/ESPN game..
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Heard we were 2nd behind Texas A&M and ND for game day destination, because of the high number of ETSU All-Americans
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Re: September 7, 2024
Five games with TV times announced:
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It’s hard to complain about 3 of your first 4 being picked up by the networks.
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I like EasyU at 4 versus noon...at least it will get a few degrees cooler after halftime.
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BEAT THE DOODY OUT OF YABBA DABBO DOO!
I say this....I think not only is Clemson flying under the radar among the Power Elites but they are definitely viewing us as a threat and NOT taking us lightly. With that said I still say if we can play disciplined among other commentary I choose not to reveal....we can potentially beat the brakes off Clemson in Death Valley.
I say this....I think not only is Clemson flying under the radar among the Power Elites but they are definitely viewing us as a threat and NOT taking us lightly. With that said I still say if we can play disciplined among other commentary I choose not to reveal....we can potentially beat the brakes off Clemson in Death Valley.
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In the Joey video posted on this board I believe he said his goal was CFP. He must have missed your memo that team cannot have goals that “may be” not totally controllable by them. If they run the table that puts a helluva lot of pressure on CFP committee to include them. Just say’in.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:16 pmThat’s fair and you are correct that you can’t have the CFP without the Championship. Fans can create the CFP as a goal but a coach and team cannot. Goals have to be based on controllable achievements.KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:54 amNot at all, 10-2 with no CFP wouldn’t be a failure.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:33 pmSo if we go 10-2, win the SBC and don’t get into the CFP, you consider the season a failure?KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:51 amI don’t think the playoffs are a pipe dream. Difficult task, yes.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:38 pm
The playoffs are a pipe dream
How did George Carlin put it about the Country Club
For now, one G5 team gets in, so we might as well aim for the stars. I will never just settle for conference championships, but it would be nice to win one again.
I admit having high aspirations leads to disappointment but it’s the only way I know to be a fan.
Go App!
I’m just saying that we should strive for the G5 CFP bid as our highest goal every year and not just be happy with a Sun Belt championship.
Although a Sun Belt title would be nice since we haven’t had one in the past 4 seasons.
Of course, the first goal should be the conference title, without it there can be no CFP bid.
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His goal and Team goals are not the same thing. If you ask Shawn, he would probably say the same thing. From a team standpoint, you set goals that you can control. This team can go 13-0 and still not make the CFP if another team goes 13-0 and is ranked higher. It’s Leadership 101. The CFP is a hope, not a goal. It isn’t about pushing and planning to get to the top. It’s about motivation and setting goals that you can motivate your team to strive towards without losing them should that goal materialize as unattainable.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:59 pmIn the Joey video posted on this board I believe he said his goal was CFP. He must have missed your memo that team cannot have goals that “may be” not totally controllable by them. If they run the table that puts a helluva lot of pressure on CFP committee to include them. Just say’in.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:16 pmThat’s fair and you are correct that you can’t have the CFP without the Championship. Fans can create the CFP as a goal but a coach and team cannot. Goals have to be based on controllable achievements.KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:54 amNot at all, 10-2 with no CFP wouldn’t be a failure.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:33 pmSo if we go 10-2, win the SBC and don’t get into the CFP, you consider the season a failure?KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:51 am
I don’t think the playoffs are a pipe dream. Difficult task, yes.
For now, one G5 team gets in, so we might as well aim for the stars. I will never just settle for conference championships, but it would be nice to win one again.
I admit having high aspirations leads to disappointment but it’s the only way I know to be a fan.
Go App!
I’m just saying that we should strive for the G5 CFP bid as our highest goal every year and not just be happy with a Sun Belt championship.
Although a Sun Belt title would be nice since we haven’t had one in the past 4 seasons.
Of course, the first goal should be the conference title, without it there can be no CFP bid.
Look, we can go back and forth on this all day. The coaches set the goals based on what they can control. The CFP isn’t one of them. The bottom line, the CFP isn’t talked about in team meetings as a goal.
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Let me make one more point and then will move on.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:22 amHis goal and Team goals are not the same thing. If you ask Shawn, he would probably say the same thing. From a team standpoint, you set goals that you can control. This team can go 13-0 and still not make the CFP if another team goes 13-0 and is ranked higher. It’s Leadership 101. The CFP is a hope, not a goal. It isn’t about pushing and planning to get to the top. It’s about motivation and setting goals that you can motivate your team to strive towards without losing them should that goal materialize as unattainable.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:59 pmIn the Joey video posted on this board I believe he said his goal was CFP. He must have missed your memo that team cannot have goals that “may be” not totally controllable by them. If they run the table that puts a helluva lot of pressure on CFP committee to include them. Just say’in.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:16 pmThat’s fair and you are correct that you can’t have the CFP without the Championship. Fans can create the CFP as a goal but a coach and team cannot. Goals have to be based on controllable achievements.KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:54 amNot at all, 10-2 with no CFP wouldn’t be a failure.
I’m just saying that we should strive for the G5 CFP bid as our highest goal every year and not just be happy with a Sun Belt championship.
Although a Sun Belt title would be nice since we haven’t had one in the past 4 seasons.
Of course, the first goal should be the conference title, without it there can be no CFP bid.
Look, we can go back and forth on this all day. The coaches set the goals based on what they can control. The CFP isn’t one of them. The bottom line, the CFP isn’t talked about in team meetings as a goal.
Based on your above logic, prior to this year every P5 conference could have produced a 13-0 team and somebody would have been left out of CFP. However that is an unlikely scenario anlbeit can happen. Are you saying that it was wrong for all those P5 teams to have making CFP a goal? There have always been external factors outside of the control of MOST teams but that did not prevent them from setting the goal for achievement. IMO that becomes an excuse if you treat it that way.
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The CFP is an invitational tournament. There is no, “do this and you are in.” There is no formula for entry that can’t be manipulated to allow who gets in. Just look at FSU last year. They did everything right and still didn’t get in. Whether you play 4 or expand to 12, it’s still the same bullshit in that you can’t play your way in. Particularly for a G5. If App and Boise both were to go 13-0, do you think both are going to get in? No. Sure, your goal is to win every game, win your conference. But that doesn’t guarantee the CFP so why make it a communicated goal? If you want the horse to run faster, you dangle the carrot that he has the reasonable shot to catch. If you dangle the impossible, (to catch) he will eventually lose the motivation to keep pushing forward.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:30 amLet me make one more point and then will move on.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:22 amHis goal and Team goals are not the same thing. If you ask Shawn, he would probably say the same thing. From a team standpoint, you set goals that you can control. This team can go 13-0 and still not make the CFP if another team goes 13-0 and is ranked higher. It’s Leadership 101. The CFP is a hope, not a goal. It isn’t about pushing and planning to get to the top. It’s about motivation and setting goals that you can motivate your team to strive towards without losing them should that goal materialize as unattainable.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:59 pmIn the Joey video posted on this board I believe he said his goal was CFP. He must have missed your memo that team cannot have goals that “may be” not totally controllable by them. If they run the table that puts a helluva lot of pressure on CFP committee to include them. Just say’in.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:16 pmThat’s fair and you are correct that you can’t have the CFP without the Championship. Fans can create the CFP as a goal but a coach and team cannot. Goals have to be based on controllable achievements.KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:54 am
Not at all, 10-2 with no CFP wouldn’t be a failure.
I’m just saying that we should strive for the G5 CFP bid as our highest goal every year and not just be happy with a Sun Belt championship.
Although a Sun Belt title would be nice since we haven’t had one in the past 4 seasons.
Of course, the first goal should be the conference title, without it there can be no CFP bid.
Look, we can go back and forth on this all day. The coaches set the goals based on what they can control. The CFP isn’t one of them. The bottom line, the CFP isn’t talked about in team meetings as a goal.
Based on your above logic, prior to this year every P5 conference could have produced a 13-0 team and somebody would have been left out of CFP. However that is an unlikely scenario anlbeit can happen. Are you saying that it was wrong for all those P5 teams to have making CFP a goal? There have always been external factors outside of the control of MOST teams but that did not prevent them from setting the goal for achievement. IMO that becomes an excuse if you treat it that way.
So in summation, you set goals that you can realistically control and see where the chips fall.