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With Joey, I just see it different. We gave him a nod out of the JuCo ranks and the coaching staff has developed him. He’s surrounded by talent at the skill positions. Why would he want to leave.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:41 pmI'm curious if Burger and Joey both stay. Right now it may not be the talk of the players or locker room but they are both starters just about any G5 school.... And if a P5 wants to take someone like Joey.... What's preventing a nice NIL from luring him away. I know there was discussion about whether he would even be eligible to transfer again or not. I don't remember if there was a definitive answer on his status.
Any particular position? Are you looking for depth or starters?
I do not care about any particular position. My personal opinion is that, to be elite on offense, we need to average 200+ yards a game. If we are able to do that with Joey Dimes and receiving corp, we are difficult to stop and games may not be taking years off my life expectancy with each week of close gamesAppSt94 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:40 pmAny particular position? Are you looking for depth or starters?
Here is what is coming back. (Off the top of my head)
Samual
Ramsey
Gentry
Scroggs
Murphy
Seth Williams
Hertz
All of the above played this year
Soloman
Ridolph
Sweatt
and as of today you have 5 Freshman coming in next year.
That’s 15 guys and you typically settle in on 8 guys.
.. I discount the Ga St game to a certain degree as I believe their tean has given up a bit given results over the past 4 weeks. If you take out that game, not sure we are averaging 150 yards in conference. I also believe this is why we are throwing the ball more. I like that we are. I feel you on the taking time off of life. I lost 5 years yesterday alone. I think any activity or no activity in the off-season in this position will tell you what they think of what they have. So you have 14 above that are scholarships. Hertz is a walk on. But how many OL guys can occupy your 85 allotment?BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:35 pmI do not care about any particular position. My personal opinion is that, to be elite on offense, we need to average 200+ yards a game. If we are able to do that with Joey Dimes and receiving corp, we are difficult to stop and games may not be taking years off my life expectancy with each week of close gamesAppSt94 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:40 pmAny particular position? Are you looking for depth or starters?
Here is what is coming back. (Off the top of my head)
Samual
Ramsey
Gentry
Scroggs
Murphy
Seth Williams
Hertz
All of the above played this year
Soloman
Ridolph
Sweatt
and as of today you have 5 Freshman coming in next year.
That’s 15 guys and you typically settle in on 8 guys... I discount the Ga St game to a certain degree as I believe their tean has given up a bit given results over the past 4 weeks. If you take out that game, not sure we are averaging 150 yards in conference. I also believe this is why we are throwing the ball more. I like that we are.
If the guys above are that talented...then maybe the portal is not needed. A very good offensive lineman can be elite at the run game and good at pass protection....or be elite at pass protection and good in run game or elite at both..I just do not see that with the entire group. Sone individual players yes...some not so much.
If all offense and defense returning players come back, we have the potential to be very good... however I am not sure if OL will be our strength which I would like it to be.
It's a good goal, there are 15 of the 130 teams averaging over 200 yards per game rushing. Three of them Army, Navy and Air Force. We are currently at 171.5, which is 48th. That is third in the Sun Belt. Louisiana is 34th and GaSt is 38thBambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:35 pmI do not care about any particular position. My personal opinion is that, to be elite on offense, we need to average 200+ yards a game. If we are able to do that with Joey Dimes and receiving corp, we are difficult to stop and games may not be taking years off my life expectancy with each week of close gamesAppSt94 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:40 pmAny particular position? Are you looking for depth or starters?
Here is what is coming back. (Off the top of my head)
Samual
Ramsey
Gentry
Scroggs
Murphy
Seth Williams
Hertz
All of the above played this year
Soloman
Ridolph
Sweatt
and as of today you have 5 Freshman coming in next year.
That’s 15 guys and you typically settle in on 8 guys.
If the guys above are that talented...then maybe the portal is not needed. A very good offensive lineman can be elite at the run game and good at pass protection....or be elite at pass protection and good in run game or elite at both..I just do not see that with the entire group. Sone individual players yes...some not so much.
If all offense and defense returning players come back, we have the potential to be very good... however I am not sure if OL will be our strength which I would like it to be.
100% He's SR next year. Why try to learn a new system when this one is working? Don't understand why people are so worried about the TP.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:55 pmWith Joey, I just see it different. We gave him a nod out of the JuCo ranks and the coaching staff has developed him. He’s surrounded by talent at the skill positions. Why would he want to leave.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:41 pmI'm curious if Burger and Joey both stay. Right now it may not be the talk of the players or locker room but they are both starters just about any G5 school.... And if a P5 wants to take someone like Joey.... What's preventing a nice NIL from luring him away. I know there was discussion about whether he would even be eligible to transfer again or not. I don't remember if there was a definitive answer on his status.
Burger will likely take a medical redshirt. If he’s willing to hang around he’s the solid #2 and can take over in 2025. His position is definitely a little more fluid. But, I don’t think we’re at a place where every young man is going to leave the program if they are not a guaranteed starter.
On offense: Daley, Bucky, Helms and Gibbs graduate. I think that Helms has another year available if he wants. There are a couple of things that I am aware of that factor in on both sides so I don’t know which way he is leaning.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:17 amGood breakdown on the O line. We have to feel good about those prospects. Losing Parker on D will sting but we seem to have a good grasp on linebacker development. Overall how many current starters will graduate? We seem to be doing pretty well with finding that 2-3 or so players who come in for the one year of graduate status.
Do you think EJ Jackson will decide to use his extra year? A month ago, the answer would have been no probably.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:47 amOn offense: Daley, Bucky, Helms and Gibbs graduate. I think that Helms has another year available if he wants. There are a couple of things that I am aware of that factor in on both sides so I don’t know which way he is leaning.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:17 amGood breakdown on the O line. We have to feel good about those prospects. Losing Parker on D will sting but we seem to have a good grasp on linebacker development. Overall how many current starters will graduate? We seem to be doing pretty well with finding that 2-3 or so players who come in for the one year of graduate status.
Defense: Parker and Funderburke are done. Ross, like Helms, has another year if he desires.
There are some guys classified as Juniors that could be done as well.