To me it always feels like the offensive has no sense of urgency once it gets the lead. I was hoping we would go for it on the last 4th down even though it was the wrong call in the situation. You had a sense with our recent history what was going to happen with the loss.CoachRob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 pmDefense gave the ball back to the offense, TWICE, with a lead and the offense couldn't put the game away. It's not on Joey, but without Nate Noel, we have no go to playmaker to put a game away. OL is full of FCS talent & the D is just too young to win games without Offensive help.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:02 pmIt’s not. He reposted one post of his halftime stats and that’s it. Like most other players do. Outside of the fumble on the read in the 4th Joey was very good tonight (he was last week too). Playcalling was awful and defense was even worse. I have no issues with Joey sharing his highlights though
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Both drives were halted by drops on 3rd down, both should have been caught if you are playing on Saturday. That's not winning football. Got to make plays. Guys aren't making the consistent plays. Nate is hurt & Robinson can only do so much.AppState00_01 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:34 pmTo me it always feels like the offensive has no sense of urgency once it gets the lead. I was hoping we would go for it on the last 4th down even though it was the wrong call in the situation. You had a sense with our recent history what was going to happen with the loss.CoachRob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 pmDefense gave the ball back to the offense, TWICE, with a lead and the offense couldn't put the game away. It's not on Joey, but without Nate Noel, we have no go to playmaker to put a game away. OL is full of FCS talent & the D is just too young to win games without Offensive help.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:02 pmIt’s not. He reposted one post of his halftime stats and that’s it. Like most other players do. Outside of the fumble on the read in the 4th Joey was very good tonight (he was last week too). Playcalling was awful and defense was even worse. I have no issues with Joey sharing his highlights though
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I’ll be tailgating in Raley/Peacock next week with or without a parking pass. Going to have a heck of a time cheering the boys on. Win or Lose, a weekend in Boone is essentially heaven. Golden eagles aren’t ready for this can we are going to open.
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I don’t disagree but Joey has outplayed our whole offense the whole year outside of Nate. Our tackles are an absolute liability and as good as our receiving room is, they’ve left Joey hung out to dry once or twice every game in huge moments this year. Makai on 3rd down and Stroman multiple times tonight. Kaiden on 4th and a lot of contested 50/50 balls we didn’t get last week. On big time downs he’s putting it on people almost every time and that room simply isn’t making winning plays. Which is a shame because it’s a good room but we’re not converting in big time moments. Simple as that.CoachRob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 pmDefense gave the ball back to the offense, TWICE, with a lead and the offense couldn't put the game away. It's not on Joey, but without Nate Noel, we have no go to playmaker to put a game away. OL is full of FCS talent & the D is just too young to win games without Offensive help.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:02 pmIt’s not. He reposted one post of his halftime stats and that’s it. Like most other players do. Outside of the fumble on the read in the 4th Joey was very good tonight (he was last week too). Playcalling was awful and defense was even worse. I have no issues with Joey sharing his highlights though
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"A third grader playing Madden" is the best description of our offense. It is so true. Our players had a few mishaps but our running game is a joke. Big change is going to hurt. I wish we would demote Clark to the booth and let Ponce have a Crack at head coach the rest of the year...or Sloan. A big change will put us way back.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:20 pmNo fluidity to our offensive play calling. Rarely running or passing to setup a run or pass. It's like watching a 3rd grader play Madden
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This! We make those catches and we win, period, can’t blame that on Clark.CoachRob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:40 pmBoth drives were halted by drops on 3rd down, both should have been caught if you are playing on Saturday. That's not winning football. Got to make plays. Guys aren't making the consistent plays. Nate is hurt & Robinson can only do so much.AppState00_01 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:34 pmTo me it always feels like the offensive has no sense of urgency once it gets the lead. I was hoping we would go for it on the last 4th down even though it was the wrong call in the situation. You had a sense with our recent history what was going to happen with the loss.CoachRob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 pmDefense gave the ball back to the offense, TWICE, with a lead and the offense couldn't put the game away. It's not on Joey, but without Nate Noel, we have no go to playmaker to put a game away. OL is full of FCS talent & the D is just too young to win games without Offensive help.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:02 pmIt’s not. He reposted one post of his halftime stats and that’s it. Like most other players do. Outside of the fumble on the read in the 4th Joey was very good tonight (he was last week too). Playcalling was awful and defense was even worse. I have no issues with Joey sharing his highlights though
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Not looking forward to that one. They’re likely going to whip us!MrCraig wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:06 pmGeorgia State will be the next one.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:08 pmHere's another fun Clark stat- he's broken some streaks of teams that historically can't beat App State
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Painful to watch. I understand the strategy to keep everything in front of you…. But like you said, 4&10, dbs playing 10-15 off the ball. Playing that far off, you’re basically gifting the WR 5+ yds per play. That equals losing football games.
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It keeps coming down to poor execution. The ends let the QB break contain, which stretched the play and coupled with DBs watching the QB, opens up holes in the zone. Bad teams make mistakes like that, and we make serval of those.
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appstate24 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:47 pmNate Johnson is a DAWG.
Just putting a little positivity out there in this really sucky situation.
Good news….you are right!!!
Bad news….NIL, prob gone!
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Exactly, and every time we do call a wrinkle in the offense, we fail at the execution. Backwards pass tried twice at Montana, flea flicker last night. The calls are there and we monkey them up.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:55 amIt keeps coming down to poor execution. The ends let the QB break contain, which stretched the play and coupled with DBs watching the QB, opens up holes in the zone. Bad teams make mistakes like that, and we make serval of those.
Maybe we need to make the offense more complex (motion, jet sweep 2 or three times a game, shovel pass, two backs in the backfield with misdirection, etc.) instead of the nothing or all approach to creativity.
We also came up with a short punt from midfield that set them up on their final drive. Love to see traditional punting vs. the fad of Australian punters that has take over CFB. Just a high spiral fair caught at the 10.
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We have great talent except, except, except we have more excuses than a guy getting caught cheating on his girlfriend. One thing for sure though, WE HAVE GREAT " OUTFITS "
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Only if UNC wanted him.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:00 pmDon’t think he can transfer again/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:58 pmGot to let coaches know for if/when he hits the portal.
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Not sure how Robinson makes this list, that dude is a stud and is carrying the receivers room right now. He and Joey have chemistry and Robinson always gives 100% effort.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:45 pmI don’t disagree but Joey has outplayed our whole offense the whole year outside of Nate. Our tackles are an absolute liability and as good as our receiving room is, they’ve left Joey hung out to dry once or twice every game in huge moments this year. Makai on 3rd down and Stroman multiple times tonight. Kaiden on 4th and a lot of contested 50/50 balls we didn’t get last week. On big time downs he’s putting it on people almost every time and that room simply isn’t making winning plays. Which is a shame because it’s a good room but we’re not converting in big time moments. Simple as that.CoachRob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 pmDefense gave the ball back to the offense, TWICE, with a lead and the offense couldn't put the game away. It's not on Joey, but without Nate Noel, we have no go to playmaker to put a game away. OL is full of FCS talent & the D is just too young to win games without Offensive help.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:02 pmIt’s not. He reposted one post of his halftime stats and that’s it. Like most other players do. Outside of the fumble on the read in the 4th Joey was very good tonight (he was last week too). Playcalling was awful and defense was even worse. I have no issues with Joey sharing his highlights though
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Agree with several on here that our offense is very predictable. In a league where teames have bolstered their defenses is our offense creative enough? Love or hate him, Drink took our existing offense and added wrinkles to it that in any moment it could go quick strike or grind it out ala Louisiana 98 yard drive in 2019. Just looks like now we are okay with having a chance at the end instead of putting teams away.
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Hey watch it, mister. There’s no approval of Drink allowed around these parts! 13 wins isn’t impressive and he was a baddy! Being the bottom of the division is good! #TeamClarkAppDub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:55 amAgree with several on here that our offense is very predictable. In a league where teames have bolstered their defenses is our offense creative enough? Love or hate him, Drink took our existing offense and added wrinkles to it that in any moment it could go quick strike or grind it out ala Louisiana 98 yard drive in 2019. Just looks like now we are okay with having a chance at the end instead of putting teams away.
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He wasn’t one of us. That is the criterion we use these days.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:57 amHey watch it, mister. There’s no approval of Drink allowed around these parts! 13 wins isn’t impressive and he was a baddy! Being the bottom of the division is good! #TeamClarkAppDub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:55 amAgree with several on here that our offense is very predictable. In a league where teames have bolstered their defenses is our offense creative enough? Love or hate him, Drink took our existing offense and added wrinkles to it that in any moment it could go quick strike or grind it out ala Louisiana 98 yard drive in 2019. Just looks like now we are okay with having a chance at the end instead of putting teams away.
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Also that snake took a 500% raise.AppinVA wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:06 amHe wasn’t one of us. That is the criterion we use these days.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:57 amHey watch it, mister. There’s no approval of Drink allowed around these parts! 13 wins isn’t impressive and he was a baddy! Being the bottom of the division is good! #TeamClarkAppDub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:55 amAgree with several on here that our offense is very predictable. In a league where teames have bolstered their defenses is our offense creative enough? Love or hate him, Drink took our existing offense and added wrinkles to it that in any moment it could go quick strike or grind it out ala Louisiana 98 yard drive in 2019. Just looks like now we are okay with having a chance at the end instead of putting teams away.
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Was just calling out his huge drop on 4th down last week. As a whole he has played great this year. I think our WR room has looked pretty good overall but I was just saying they have also been good for one or two mistakes each game in big moments and he has one of them.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:48 amNot sure how Robinson makes this list, that dude is a stud and is carrying the receivers room right now. He and Joey have chemistry and Robinson always gives 100% effort.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:45 pmI don’t disagree but Joey has outplayed our whole offense the whole year outside of Nate. Our tackles are an absolute liability and as good as our receiving room is, they’ve left Joey hung out to dry once or twice every game in huge moments this year. Makai on 3rd down and Stroman multiple times tonight. Kaiden on 4th and a lot of contested 50/50 balls we didn’t get last week. On big time downs he’s putting it on people almost every time and that room simply isn’t making winning plays. Which is a shame because it’s a good room but we’re not converting in big time moments. Simple as that.CoachRob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 pmDefense gave the ball back to the offense, TWICE, with a lead and the offense couldn't put the game away. It's not on Joey, but without Nate Noel, we have no go to playmaker to put a game away. OL is full of FCS talent & the D is just too young to win games without Offensive help.TomA415 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:02 pmIt’s not. He reposted one post of his halftime stats and that’s it. Like most other players do. Outside of the fumble on the read in the 4th Joey was very good tonight (he was last week too). Playcalling was awful and defense was even worse. I have no issues with Joey sharing his highlights though
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And is currently 7-1. Guess he knows what he's doingBallantyneApp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:10 amAlso that snake took a 500% raise.AppinVA wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:06 amHe wasn’t one of us. That is the criterion we use these days.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:57 amHey watch it, mister. There’s no approval of Drink allowed around these parts! 13 wins isn’t impressive and he was a baddy! Being the bottom of the division is good! #TeamClarkAppDub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:55 amAgree with several on here that our offense is very predictable. In a league where teames have bolstered their defenses is our offense creative enough? Love or hate him, Drink took our existing offense and added wrinkles to it that in any moment it could go quick strike or grind it out ala Louisiana 98 yard drive in 2019. Just looks like now we are okay with having a chance at the end instead of putting teams away.